Rockbottom

[LIMAMA]

Is Hollywood scraping the bottom or what? A remake of THE OMEN and a planned "trilogy" of...the Smurfs.

[wleonard89]

Now, a remake of THE OMEN starring The Smurfs would be pretty cool. I'd like to see that! :)

[odriftwood]

Now, a remake of THE OMEN starring The Smurfs would be pretty cool. I'd like to see that!

Okay, now that's just pretty darn funny...

[Mickster]

Now, a remake of THE OMEN starring The Smurfs would be pretty cool. I'd like to see that! :)

When Papa Smurf discovers Damien the antichrist has infiltrated Smurfland and intends to turn the Smurfs into demons he must etc zzzzzzz...... ;)

[dpaterso]

Cooler still if Damien sees a Smurf reflection every time he looks in a mirror. With that kind of horror angle they could simply remaster the original to make it even more terrifying than before.

Latest press release, "The Smurfette will star in a remake of ROSEMARY'S BABY featuring a Satanic gangbang orgy with all the other Smurfs." Aimed at the 7 to 11-year-old market.

-Derek
Derek's Web Page - stories, screenplays, novels, insanity. (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DPaterson57/scripts.htm)

[longshot]

I especially like the part about the smurf movie log line being kept under wraps...
But I see a new winner for Rockbottom: the Untitled Notorious B I G project. Here's my logline: His family on public assistance, a young black man in Brooklyn becomes a crack dealer, (whereby he continues to addict other young men to a deadly drug. He seals THEIR fate by turning them into addicts, career criminals, or some just die in the gutter, but who cares, 'cause we got a Great Soundtrack). He becomes a rapper, makes millions producing racist, sexist, homophobic "music", then gets shot by someone with a similar background. In a stroke of luck, the LAPD Rampart story reveals the name of a dirty cop, who worked bodyguard duty for rappers. (For some reason rappers like to shoot other rappers so we know that they are "keepin' it real"...) Anyway our hero's family sues the LAPD for millions, although no one suggests the cops pulled the trigger, then the mother gets a Hollywood movie deal to produce the story of the son she is soooo proud of.

I'm already writing my Oscar acceptace speech

[AaronB]

Well, who do you think Gargamel is?

[yvonnjanae]

Longshot, and I do mean longshot, if you're trying to imply that there's nothing noteworthy or noble about a story about Notorious B.I.G., then you seriously have you head up your ass. You're probably one of those types who is sitting by your TV, biting your nails because that sweet young Natalie Holloway hasn't been found on Aruba. Not once has it entered your mind that she was a drunken slut who left her friends and chaperones to get busy with a weird guy with a big forehead and his native friends.

[dpaterso]

longshot you be askin for a drive by shootin an six bullets in yo face mutha.

'spect to all cool rappin crack dealers everywhere. Proud'a these guys.

-Derek
Derek's Web Page - stories, screenplays, novels, insanity. (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DPaterson57/scripts.htm)

[santino2699]

Longshot, and I do mean longshot, if you're trying to imply that there's nothing noteworthy or noble about a story about Notorious B.I.G., then you seriously have you head up your ass. You're probably one of those types who is sitting by your TV, biting your nails because that sweet young Natalie Holloway hasn't been found on Aruba. Not once has it entered your mind that she was a drunken slut who left her friends and chaperones to get busy with a weird guy with a big forehead and his native friends.

Yvonn,

Hate to say it. But that was just cold and out of line. Show some humanity. That girl is no less worthy of our thoughts/prayers/sympathies than any other, (just as you would be) and you have no right to assume she's a slut because she got drunk and wanted to party. Show me a high school senior on Spring Break that hasn't done that. Do they all deserve such apathy?

Santino

[longshot]

Noteworthy and Noble, huh. Let's see:

Lowlife criminal, who sold poison to children. Prior to that he cost the taxpayers thousands of dollars to subsidize his housing, 'cause momma didn't work and daddy, well let's just leave the whole daddy thing alone. Suffice it to say daddy should have pulled out and shot across momma's back. He could be anywhere, but I'm guessing he is also dead. Now let's see about his school years where the little tyke probably was a model student.. Nah, let's be honest. Really honest. Not politically correct but HONEST. Because we want to Keep It Real. He went to a public school where he frightened, intimidated, or threatened the teachers. And where he most likely insulted the classmates who tried to learn because they were "tryin' to be white".
And that is as bad as dealing drugs. Because he and others like him take the one chance that inner city kids have to get out of that madness. The chance to go to college, to learn a trade, to pick up a skill that will support them, to break the cycle of being on public assistance for generations.

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Tell us all about how "art" and "culture" outweigh the fact that most young black males look up to rappers because they have no role models in their lives. Explain why their families spend more money on their kids' brand-name shoes than they would on something useful like a math tutor. Why they insist that their boys are never wrong, and should be encouraged to defy every type of authority. Why they complain that they don't get respect, even though they've been conditioned to never, ever, ever under no circumstances give respect. There is a basic innocence in children, a sweetness and a goodness they are normally born with. (I think humans evolved that way so their parents don't just kill 'em the first time they poop on the new sofa... Just a theory). But they need to be told right from wrong. They need to be corrected when they make mistakes. And they need to feel good when they do something right, like get an A on a test. They need to know that there is a price for commiting a crime. They need to know that there is more to a women than just breasts and a vagina, that most women won't respond well to being addressed as "bitch" and "whore". They need to know that a gun is a dangerous thing in the wrong hands. They need to know that the police are not the enemy, that if the police don't patrol their neighborhood things will be worse that they already are. They need to know that you are not supposed to spraypaint on someone else's property. They need to know not to drink Colt 45 Malt Liquor and drive like a maniac with music so loud you cause an accident. They need to respect others first, then EARN respect for themselves. They need to know that no one will hire them for ANY job if they show up looking like a gangbanger and talking in ebonics. They need to know that expressing your individuality is not about wearing clothes that say seanjohn on them. They need to be taught that having a bank account is more important than a credit card. They need to know that putting a $5000 stereo and 22" wheels and tires on a leased SUV is a really stoopid thing to do.

Rap is all about blaming someone else for your problems. It's whining about how life isn't fair, but if I get me a lowered car, a bottle, a Glock and wear name-brand clothes it will be. Well, guess what. It isn't fair. It never was and it never will be. It's what you do with it, it's how you DEAL WITH IT. It's how you improve your own situation now so when you have kids, so you can give them a better life than you had. If a 45 year old white man like me wore all that bling bling crap I'd be laughed at, and with good reason. It looks ridiculous. Does being a 19 year old black kid make it any different? Of course not. Baggy pants and a backwards baseball cap and cheesy fake jewelry and wearing a Lakers jersey when you aren't a Laker is just stupid. It isn't style. It's just being a follower, a sheep, a fart in the wind.. A nothing wishing desperately to be a something. Impressionable kids deserve better than that. They deserve hope, not rap.

[yvonnjanae]

Longshot :cool:

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think I am dealing with a very wounded brotha. If you are white, then I am very, very surprised because your words sound like those I have heard from other black men who do not appreciate being lumped into a class of people who you deem irresponsible and off-putting. You, my dear sir, are the sergeant in "A Soldier's Story," who hated the guitar-plucking goofy guy because he represented every stereotype that the sergeant hated about black men. While there are tons of truth in what you say about the rearing of young African-American boys, you are way off beat when you assume that rap is the reason for it. Those things were happening long before rap came along. And if you want to blame someone for bringing those negative things to the forefront of media exposure, blame the mainstream news, the music executives and the legions of young white males who buy that music. If rap had to exist only on the sales from black teens, there would be no rap. You, my brotha, and I should have a long discussion about what led up to this mess -- and how we can seriously get out of it without trying to rag on a legitimate form of musical entertainment. Peace.

[yvonnjanae]

Oh and Santino, regarding Natalie Holloway. When the news media starts tracking lost souls who happen to not be white, attractive and female, I will join you in a candlelight vigil for all errant teens who drink too much, drug too much and go off with dudes they never met before in their lives. And no, not all teens do that. Just because she was an honor student does not mean she wasn't stupid. And quite frankly, I am sick and tired of people like you and Fox News pretending that she is representative of something other than your clouded vision of what life really is.

[santino2699]

Yvonn,

Perhaps you didn't notice the report last night on the BLACK assistant principal who is missing. Another report that I watched and cared about.

This is not a black or white issue. It's about your bitterness and your willingness to insult an innocent girl by calling her a slut. The fact that you can even sleep at night after calling someone names that has been most likely raped and beaten to death is so disturbing to me. You truly are sick.

Please don't respond because even talking to you feels toxic.

S

[yvonnjanae]

Yeah, unfortunately, I HAVE missed the story about the missing black principal. As have most people. You can consider the Natalie Holloway case to be whatever you want. That's your perogative. She may have been a saint, I don't know. But I do know this: When most young women go on long holidays with a chaperoned group, they do not break away from their friends and go off alone with THREE previously unknown men. Most don't, because it is unsavory and it sullies their reputation. So live with. By the way, Santino, you may be a genuinely decent person, but attitudes like yours are what has ruined broadcast news. The attempt to play to vanilla sky concepts such as yours have turned true journalists into tabloid fools.

[santino2699]

Yvonn,

This is my last reply on this matter and then I am hoping we can be done with this.

You really have such an agenda that you don't even realize who you are speaking with and what it is about.

When did I ever give you any inclination that I am the person you accuse me of? I never said that I believe what the media portrays as indicative of the "real world". Give me some credit.

The only thing I EVER took issue with is YOUR assumption of an innocent girl's reputation and YOUR nerve to drag her into you dirty argument. That's it. Plain and simple. It just shocked me that someone could call a victim of a rape/murder names out of bitterness toward the system.

Now, do you have a point about the media? Sure. There's some validity there. But, as a father, it crushes my heart whenever I turn on the television and hear any parent have to cope with the fact that some a$$hole ripped their heart out and stomped on it by taking the one thing we parents hold most dear.

Yvonn, you judge me too quickly. All I asked was that you realize the error you made in judging her too quickly. You owe the memory of that girl an apology.

Don't make this a black or white issue. The discussion of the media is a separate one. And I as a man (not a white man, not an Italian man) but as a man identify because I know what that pain feels like and would hope that somewhere inside you....you know what you did is wrong.

Santino

Perhaps we should close this thread. I don't know if it's got anything to do about screenwriting anymore.

[pooks]

Santino, if you go back and read the thread you will notice that Yvonne is not the person who turned it into a black and white issue -- longshot was the first to emphasize race in a response.

And I am so very sorry for the family of Natalee Holloway and for her -- and thank goodness most of us somehow manage to survive our stupid mistakes -- but there is nothing defensible about her last hours and the last decisions she made. She may not have been a slut, but put her actions in a movie and she'd play one.

I read on a different bulletin board that women can be proud that this part of the story hasn't been emphasized -- that ten years ago every news story would have been slanted toward "bad girl missing," because of course only a bad girl would be out partying in the way she was partying. The women on that site thought it was a triumph that Natalie (Natalee? How does she spell it?) wasn't being judged that way.

And all I could think was, why the hell do we not point out that her behaviour was not only stupid but it is most likely exactly what led to her likely death -- so other young girls will learn caution?

No, you don't have to call her a slut, though I do understand that point of view. But good grief, what she did was slutty.