View Full Version : A Beutiful Mind vs. Apollo 13
08-05-2005, 10:31 PM
Which is better ABM or A13?
Personally I think Apollo 13 is the better movie by far. The visuals as well as the life and death struggles were better than a dude chasing a formula and running away from imaginary g-men.
What's your take on Ron's films. Do you go with the geeks or the nerd?
08-05-2005, 10:42 PM
Ron Howard films I liked
Ron Howard films I didn't like
Grand Theft Auto
Far and Away
How the Grinch Stole Christmas
Ron Howard films I wasn't interested to see
A Beautiful Mind
Ron Howard Films I'll see on DVD
Overall...Ron Howard doesn't do much for me as a director. His worst films are as bad as A-list movies get and his best are not great. And all of them have at least one thick syrup flood
08-05-2005, 10:50 PM
08-05-2005, 10:57 PM
The only Ron Howard film I like is Parenthood.
I just don't like his style of filmmaking which is apparent in everything he touches.
08-05-2005, 10:59 PM
i like his movies, except for the ones i haven't seen.
can't give much an opinion about those.
08-06-2005, 12:00 AM
A Beautiful Mind = Disneyfied schizophrenia.
Apollo 13 = Disneyfied space tragedy.
Give me Apollo 13 over A Beautiful Mind any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
ABM pisses me off. A13 makes me smile.
08-06-2005, 08:42 AM
But I'm not a Ron Howard fan. Constant, total Oscar bait.
He makes cinematic equivalents of a 1950s glee-club suck-up character.
08-06-2005, 12:40 PM
From the perspective of story, I think APOLLO 13 was superior to ABM.
The big problem with the latter was the great cheat. It led you to believe that the spy sequence was real, and falsely caused you to be concerned for the protagonist’s immediate safety. Many who have seen ABM mention that it irritated them in some way, and I believe that it’s the cheat. Now the cheat is supposed to cause empathy in the audience for those who suffer from psychotic experiences. Unfortunately, no one can empathize with something that you cannot represent dramatically. And the attempt to dramatize it anyway, by fooling the audience into believing that something unreal is real, causes the same kind of irritation you feel when you are the target of a joke. It taught us nothing about real psychotic states, and it made a fool of the audience.
The beauty of APOLLO 13 is that you have here a story based on historical events, and the audience knows the ending. Yet, dramatically, it was able to convey suspense and a sense of dread through an artful display of foreshadowing. The audience was always in the know, save for the wife’s brief dream, which went to foreshadowing.
That is why you smile at A13, and wonder if you’ve been taken with ABM.
08-06-2005, 01:19 PM
Want an authentic portrayal of a paranoid schizophrenic?
See Lodge Kerrigan's Clean, Shaven (http://imdb.com/title/tt0106579/).
08-06-2005, 05:16 PM
Ron Howard needs to stop directing films based on true stories.
op is great. one more word out of you people and i'll sick fonzi on you.
08-06-2005, 09:11 PM
I've seen A Beautiful Mind once and probably never again.
I've seen Apollo 13 like 6 times and would watch it again.
One of the best lines ever from A13:
"We have to make this fit into this using this."
08-06-2005, 09:15 PM
Apollo 13 although the Thrill was an extra and stand in on A Beautiful Mind, who worked closely with Ron Howard and Akiva Goldsman to make sure the movie was done properly.
All three of our efforts paid off when we won the Academy Award for best picture.
But I still like Apollo 13 better.
08-07-2005, 10:03 AM
Have not seen Apollo13. I will say I enjoyed ABM over Cinderella Man.
08-07-2005, 03:06 PM
I too find viewing APOLLO 13 enjoyable every time. I know I have viewed it over 20 times, if not more. I think that a movie that is enjoyed over repeated viewings tends to be a great movie.
I've viewed ABM 2 or 3 times, and I progressively disliked it. For me, the Cheat is unforgivable.
08-07-2005, 03:15 PM
I liked The Paper a good bit. I was working as a reporter for a very small-town newspaper at the time, and it made me long to be at a real paper doing real reporting.
i thought a beautiful mind was great and it no doubt ripped of 'sixth sense' in so many ways, but i'll let biohazard illustrate myh examples as i'm partially paralyzed from smirking.
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