Dracula

[billythrilly7]

We need a new Dracula movie.

And I'm not talking about some pretentious awful version where he didn't even have a black cape and Neo was stomping around and I didn't even know who Dracula was and am still not sure.

I'm talking a regular, faithful to Bella Lugosi or whoever the heck played him, version.

Get to work on the script, people.

Dracula.

I think it would be a big hit.

http://www.vampires-fr.com/images/dracula/lugosi.jpg

[Salazkin]

I agree. Excellent material there. A sort of Batman Begins meets Interview with the Vampire (and definitely NOT starring Tom Cruise - sorry Billy).

[billythrilly7]

Russell Crowe as Dracula.

The script and marketing writes itself.

No pretension though!!!! I want Crowe sneaking into rooms and biting woman's necks.

Straight Dracula faire and/or fair and/or fare and/or some other spelling of the word.

[dclary]

Yeah, none of the craptastic Dracula films. A REAL dracula movie. Where it's scary because...

DRACULA'S F*CKING SCARY

[refriedwhiskey]

Anybody who wants a scary Dracula should check out Nosferatu.

Oh, wait.

Silent...black and white....

Never mind, fellas. You wouldn't like it.

[Salazkin]

The script and marketing writes itself.
Sounds like a line straight out of Peter Gallagher's mouth in The Player.

Straight Dracula faire and/or fair and/or fare and/or some other spelling of the word Fare, Billy. :)

Where it's scary because...

DRACULA'S F*CKING SCARY :bounce:

[Salazkin]

Anybody who wants a scary Dracula should check out Nosferatu.

Oh, wait.

Silent...black and white....

Never mind, fellas. You wouldn't like it. :rolling:

[billythrilly7]

Yeah, none of the craptastic Dracula films. A REAL dracula movie. Where it's scary because...

DRACULA'S F*CKING SCARY

Exactamundo.

[billythrilly7]

I bet this shows up as a pitch sold on the Script Sales page within three months.

But that's okay.

I just want the movie.

Consider it a freebie present from me to you, dried up, out of ideas, but still able to get meetings based on your success in the 80's and early 90's screenwriter and/or producer.

A freebie present from Billy.

Good luck and don't screw it up.

[Deus Ex Machine]

Dracula isn't scary. He's seductive and disturbing, like a wealthy glamorous handsome serial killer who kills people by seducing them and making mad passionate love to them until they die.

He offers you everything you desire. Every basic animal lusty impulse will be satisfied for all eternity.

He is the ultimate snake offering us the apple.

What is frightening is what those who accept the apple are willing to do to keep it and how it perverts them.

The problem with Dracula films is that they are made by people who just don't get what the story is about and try to make it into something scary.

Dracula was never scary. It was Victorian porn.

As long as people keep trying to make Dracula scary it will continue to be crappy and highly forgettable as the next cheap shock-fest takes its place.


:)

[billythrilly7]

Then FADE IN:,Deus.

Please get to work.

Thank you.

[Pen Dragon]

You see, this is why I wrote a Robin Hood script. Because new versions of these timeless stories are inevitable. no matter how much they tell ya on triggerstreet they've been done to death and give you low marks

:|



Wasn't there a Dracula vs. Sherlock Holmes script that sold in a bidding war for a million bucks a couple years ago, and then the writer died of pneumonia afterward or something?

[Pen Dragon]

yes, pen, there was


http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/380/380117p1.html

[TDWoj]

(blushing)
I liked the (197_?) version with Frank Langella as Dracula and Laurence Olivier as Van Helsing....

[Dean]

Dracula isn't scary. He's seductive and disturbing, like a wealthy glamorous handsome serial killer who kills people by seducing them and making mad passionate love to them until they die.



See, Joss Whedon got that when he had Dracula stalk Buffy in season 5, though Spike just thinks he's a ponce with a couple of parlor tricks.:)

[refriedwhiskey]

He's seductive and disturbing, like a wealthy glamorous handsome serial killer who kills people by seducing them and making mad passionate love to them until they die.
Nice work if you can get it, though.

[dclary]

I love the end of the Drac vs. Buffy episode... where he's reforming after getting staked.

"I'm standing right here!"

[Fortean]

We need a new Dracula movie....

Get to work on the script, people.Why not take a crack at it yourself? Enter something in the Halloween Shorts Contest (http://scriptsales.com/boards/showthread.php?t=13907).

Vampires, werewolves, and zombies have been overdone by Hollywood. Any dunce with a pair of fake fangs seems to think they can make a vampire film, (if not a parody of them). Why do they keep selling us stale stories, (just 'cause idiots keep buying tickets to watch junk), when we really crave something new and bloody frightening?

Let's blaze some new trails in horror!

Or, confess Billy, you really don't know much more about the occult and the supernatural than what you've seen on television and in recent films. Are you just another fanboy, or can you write something besides DD posts?

[billythrilly7]

I confess!!!

I don't write horror.

I'm not a fanboy of anything. I barely know what that term means.

And I'm certainly not going to write the next Dracula movie.

But I want one. Thank you.

[Hairy Lime]

Billy, didn't like Coppola's take (http://imdb.com/title/tt0103874/)?

[billythrilly7]

Billy, didn't like Coppola's take (http://imdb.com/title/tt0103874/)?

I quote me...

And I'm not talking about some pretentious awful version where he didn't even have a black cape and Neo was stomping around and I didn't even know who Dracula was and am still not sure.

[Hairy Lime]

Keanu's miscasting aside, it was a visually lush gothic horror film complete with sex, desire, and evil. Gary Oldman was a fantastic Dracula. Anthony Hopkins as VanHelsing. Even the sultry Monica Belluci has one of Dracula's harem. Great stuff.

[Pen Dragon]

Ronald Reagan would have been a brilliant Dracula

[Hairy Lime]

Another fun take on the Dracula thing is Shadow of the Vampire, which suggests that Max Schreck was more than a method actor when he starred in Nosferatu. Watching the 1922 original back to back with Shadow is a fun experience. Both are relatively short so it turns into about a 3 hour vampire fest. Amazing how much Eddie Izzard looks like Gustav von Wangenheim and how Willem Dafoe transforms himself into Schreck. Malkovich plays a great FW Murnau as well.

[longshot]

But it would need to take place in the present.

Maybe an ancient building being unearthed in present-day Yugo/Chechys/Serbia- whatever leads to the discovery of the bones of a previous victim of dracula. And a poor Russian archeology student living in a crumbling apartment brings home the remains to study them, realizes what he has stumbled onto. His equally poor roomate, a genetics student with a drug problem, uses DNA technology to grow Dracula's cells. His drug dealer; a violent Russian mob guy, forces him to inject Dracula's DNA into himself, kills the archeology student, then burns down the apartment to hide the crime, and when the building suddenly collapses everyone dies in the fire.. Except the druggie genetics student, the new, pissed off Dracula.

[Dean]

I love the end of the Drac vs. Buffy episode... where he's reforming after getting staked.

"I'm standing right here!"


... and right before that, Buffy stakes him the first time he tries reforming, saying, "You don't think I've seen your movies? You always come back!".

Good stuff!

[billythrilly7]

Keanu's miscasting aside, it was a visually lush gothic horror film complete with sex, desire, and evil. Gary Oldman was a fantastic Dracula. Anthony Hopkins as VanHelsing. Even the sultry Monica Belluci has one of Dracula's harem. Great stuff.

It was a nice piece of work on a boring, pretentious artistic level. I grant you that.

Now, I'd like to see a great old school Dracula movie.

Not art. A movie.

[Fortean]

Dracula isn't scary. He's seductive and disturbing....

As long as people keep trying to make Dracula scary it will continue to be crappy and highly forgettable as the next cheap shock-fest takes its place.If Billy cannot be bothered to read some of Bram Stoker's stories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_stoker), (let alone write a short screenplay to show us his mettle), I'd likewise chastise the dismissal of vampires as a horror genre. I think that a good vampire film can be made that deals with horror, (rather than lust and temptation, as Deus understands the nature of Dracula films).

Vampirism, cannibalism, and ghouls are ancient themes encountered across a great many cultures. Hollywood has been fixated upon the vampirism portrayed in Tod Browning's version (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021814/combined), starring Bela Lugosi, (which had originally been a stage play).

In Canada, the aboriginal tribes feared the Wendigo, (a spirit that might possess someone and had a craving for human flesh); and, the Inuit had a tale, (that preceded Frankenstein's conception), of a demonic spirit, (assembled from the bodies of the dead), that comes to life and preys upon the living. One doesn't need to tramp about the tombs and castles of Transylvania to find the DNA of Dracula, (or, Vlad the Impaler). Whalers caught in the arctic ice or voyageurs coming across a shaman's shaking tent could offer new vampire horror in less familar territories; (consider what the film RAVENOUS (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0129332/combined) did concerning cannibalism). And, how about a contemporary tale of vampirism, where victims appear to be attacked by ancient vampires? Could the authorities be misled by anti-superstitious prejudices by modern antagonists, (who really do have a desperate need for a plentiful supply of fresh blood and for keeping their need secret)?

Let's get rid of the crucifixes, garlic necklaces, stakes and mallets, earth-filled coffins, death by daylight, European aristocracy, and fangs, which clutter the Dracula films. Think of how you might deal with vampires in a different environment, (for example (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078748/combined)), and write creatively.

[refriedwhiskey]

Coppola's Dracula is a terrible movie-- and it's not just Keanu's trademark rotten acting. It's so over the top and unforgivably campy. I've got friends who say that's intentional; I say I don't care. It stinks.

[Biohazard]

Coppola's Dracula is a terrible movie-- and it's not just Keanu's trademark rotten acting. It's so over the top and unforgivably campy. I've got friends who say that's intentional; I say I don't care. It stinks.

I haven't seen the whole thing, but what I did see was unimpressive. I firmly believe that Coppola lost his mind while filming Apocalypse Now and went totally insane afterwards, because there's no way anybody can be that damn good for just one decade and then produce crap for the rest of his life.

[billythrilly7]

If Billy cannot be bothered to read some of Bram Stoker's stories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_stoker), (let alone write a short screenplay to show us his mettle), I'd likewise chastise the dismissal of vampires as a horror genre. I think that a good vampire film can be made that deals with horror, (rather than lust and temptation, as Deus understands the nature of Dracula films).

I don't get it. If I don't read Bram stories and/or write a short screenplay to show you my mettle, than you are dismissing vampires as a horror genre?

I'M responsible for an entire genre being destroyed? Little 'ole me?

Wow. I feel bad. I wish I liked to read and has some desire to show you my mettle.

[Pen Dragon]

billy why don't you just promote yourself to Sun God , to hell with these cynical non believers

[billythrilly7]

Interesting. I wasn't planning on that for a decade or so, but it might be time to move up my timetable.

I'm gonna sleep on it.

Good night!

[Fortean]

If Billy cannot be bothered to read some of Bram Stoker's stories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_stoker), (let alone write a short screenplay to show us his mettle), I'd likewise chastise the dismissal of vampires as a horror genre. I think that a good vampire film can be made that deals with horror, (rather than lust and temptation, as Deus understands the nature of Dracula films).
Let's try that again. How about this:
It's bad enough that Billy cannot be bothered to read some of Bram Stoker's stories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_stoker), (let alone write a short screenplay to show us his mettle). I'd likewise chastise the dismissal of vampires as a horror genre. I think that a good vampire film can be made that deals with horror, (rather than lust and temptation, as Deus understands the nature of Dracula films).Okay, Billy? Oh, he's already gone to bed! (http://barros.rusf.ru/films/dracula/dracula1931-07.jpg)

[Evil Elf]

Asian vampire tales are a rich vein as well, particularly because they're not historical, as most Western vampire beliefs are, but often quite contemporary. In Indonesia, for instance, the vampires are the spirits of vengeful women who rise from the grave each night on bat wings, just their heads, spines, and viscera, to seek revenge. I actually bought a nice little carving of one such vampire (very impressive fangs) from a nun in Ambon. I asked, "What kind of bone is this carved from?" and she said, over her shoulder, "oh, human I think." Oh.

[dclary]

That's not fair!

I wanna be sun god!!

:mad:

[Fortean]

If you don't watch your weight, you've got a stake in becoming a moon god.