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JasonDoneDeal
07-05-2000, 05:25 PM
Some veteran screenwriters say books are a waste of time and that the only way you can learn the craft is by reading screenplays. Well, they have a point: READ LOTS OF SCREENPLAYS. But, these screenplay guides offer some voluable instruction (and some do not). What are your favorites? I'll start:

You can tell from my reviews, my favorite guides are "How NOT to Write a Screenplay," "Secrets of Screenplay Structure", "Script Magic", and "500 Ways to Beat the Hollywood Reader".

Read the review at:

www.scriptsales.com/DDBooks.html (http://www.scriptsales.com/DDBooks.html)

Now your turn!

Jason

Bill Marquardt
07-05-2000, 05:34 PM
I still think Bill Goldman's newest, "Which Lie Did I Tell?" is a really great read. Intermixed with the anecdotes and stories are pointers on how to write a screenplay. He even includes a real "our eyes only" rough first draft by written by himself which is then criticized mercilessly by some of his friends for all to read. Entertaining and eductional both - how can you beat that?

Bill Marquardt

JasonDoneDeal
07-05-2000, 08:45 PM
Which is better, Goldman's first book or his second? Is the new one an update to the first book?

Oh and what about your least favorite books, guys? Anyone check out

callit
07-05-2000, 09:33 PM
"Writing Screenplays That Sell" by Michael Hauge is the least useful of the screenplay guides.

Linda Seger's books are terrific, and Syd Field's "The Screenwriter's Problem Solver" is the best of his series--simply because of the chapter on conflict.

As for formatting, the Cole/Haag guide is all anyone needs. Could use a little revision though-some of the style tips such as "Cut To" are outdated.

For writing in general, all should have a copy of "Wild Mind" by Natalie Goldman.

JasonDoneDeal
07-06-2000, 01:25 PM
My other post must have cut out. My least favorbook is "Fitzgerald Did It" -- YIKES! Anyone read this one?

callit
07-06-2000, 07:07 PM
Does anyone have info on "The Screenwriter's Legal Guide" by Breimer, or "Hello, He Lied" by Lynda Obst?

I saw them in the bookstore & thought they might be good additions to the shelf. Any thoughts, anyone?

JasonDoneDeal
07-10-2000, 10:45 AM
Come on Callit!!! I've got that review up :) Check out:

www.scriptsales.com/DDBooks.html (http://www.scriptsales.com/DDBooks.html)

and click on "The Screenwriter's Legal Guide."

Enjoy :)

Jason

GirlinGray
07-10-2000, 02:08 PM
Well my favorites are "Conversations with My Agent," by Rob Long, and "A Martian Wouldn't Say That," which is packed somewhere so I can't look up the authors and out of print -- which is too bad because it is a very funny collection of bizarre notes writers have actually received. (Someone needs to reprint that book.)

callit
07-10-2000, 09:18 PM
Sorry, J,

You caught me with my pen in my holder. I read the review. Guess what I'm buying this week.

Thanks for the tip/rip/admonishment/review/advice.

todd3
09-06-2000, 11:29 PM
Hi, everybody!

I've been looking at this topic for a while, and I haven't seen anything about a book by Robert McKee called
STORY. Does anybody know this book? If so, what are your thoughts on it?

Thanks,

Todd

Bill Marquardt
09-07-2000, 02:47 AM
I own "Story", and read it six months ago. It is a pretty thorough treatment on the craft of screenwriting, and very well written. It gives you the text book approach to screenwriting, and I've been told it's more or less a condensation of the course McKee teaches. I felt Syd Field's book was a little easier to read.

wannabe
09-15-2000, 04:46 PM
Callit, I've read "Hello he lied" and found it real interesting. Made me want to rush out an contact Ms Obst. But our tastes might differ, because I found Michael Hauge's book really interesting and helpful. More so than Syd Fields and many others.

Todd3, Mckee's story is excellent, but damn, it's pretty highfalutin. If you're prepared to read the same sentence about three times to grasp what he's getting at, it's damn good stuff.

Jason, I enjoyed "Hello he Lied", but I thought "Adventures" was better. Goldman writes in a really conversational style which is fun and it's interesting to read how he often lacks confidence to get writing. His script is also interesting (though IMHO, not particularly good - and damn, I know how pretentious that sounds, sorta like dissing the king) and the comments by his writer friends show just how subjective reading a screenplay can be.

A book I found to be pretty good is "The Whole Picture" by Richard Walter, and probably my favorite of all time is Christopher Vogler's "The Writer's Journey".

Vynson
04-20-2002, 06:46 PM
I thought Robert McKee's STORY was intelligent, but certainly not difficult. I learned an enormous amount about story construction.

I have generally been able to get something out of all the books I've read on screenwriting. Considering that I seek to make this my career, the slightest insight is worth the 10 or 20 bucks most of these books cost.

I would absolutely not be without either of Richard Walter's books on the subject: SCREENWRITING and THE WHOLE PICTURE. As comprehensive and invaluable as McKee's work is, Walter is a necessity, a teacher in a very pure sense of the word. He offers not just formatting tips or techniques for story construction, character development, and writing dialogue, though he certainly covers all of this, but Walter also gives you very specific homework. He offers exercises. The kind of exercises that will leave you wondering if you have what it takes to pick up the pieces on a development deal, much less create a feature from scratch.

By the time you figure out who Ike Warshaw is, you know whether or not you want to risk your life writing screenplays...

The Wordy Bird
04-21-2002, 06:53 PM
The 101 Habits of Highly Successful Screenwriters - Karl Iglesias

How NOT to Write a Screenplay (mentioned above)

Monster: Living Off the Big Screen - John Gregory Dunne (a helluva wake-up call, this one!)

BlondeScreenwriter
04-21-2002, 08:27 PM
Two of my favorite screenwriting books are.....

The Screenwriter's Bible by David Trottier
Making a Good Writer Great: A Creativity Workbook For Screenwriters by Linda Seger

And if you ever need just a book to get your creative juices flowing there is a book by the name of Story Starters (Author: Lou Willett Stanek, PH.D.).

I'm currently remember a book I had by the name of "Screenwriting For The Soul" or was it "From The Soul". Anyway, I lost it and never had the chance to read it. I wonder if I should miss it?

Selina

AnconRanger
04-22-2002, 09:25 PM
BlondeScreenwriter,

I believe you're thinking of SCREENWRITING FROM THE SOUL by R. Krevolin.

I thought it was a great book...a good break from the usual "how to get an agent, write a blockbuster, you have to use this and that rule to write an effective script," stuff for a while. It talks about writing.

BlondeScreenwriter
04-22-2002, 10:27 PM
Ancon,

That's the one! I've moved at least three times since I bought the book and misplaced it. I'll try to go through some boxes and see if I can locate it this week.

I have so many books on screenwriting, I could open my own library. And the ones that offer new and fresh perspectives are becoming quite difficult to find.

Selina

B3K
05-01-2002, 11:42 AM
I think Hello, He Lied is a great book, a fascinating read, but I also found it very discouraging. 500 Ways to Beat the Hollywood Reader is a book I highly recommend.

Other good books, although they're not about screenwriting per se, are...

The Perfect Pitch by Ken Rotcop
The Writer Got Screwed (but didn'thave to) by Brooke Wharton
Framwork: A History of Screenwriting for the American Film (very encouraging and not at all dry, despite the academic-sounding title) by Tom Stempel
The Screenwriters Survival Guide by Max Adams

Sam
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