Troy Duffy and The Boondock Saints

[SoulJackerUK]

Well, watched The Boondock Saints for the first time the other night... Sure, it's cliched and OTT, but I dug it in a fun kinda way. A competent action flick. And, man, Dafoe's performance blew me away.

Anyway, what d'you guys think of it?

Oh, and another thing... What's the deal with this Troy Duffy character? Anyone got and info on him? Why everyone hates him or what he's up to and whatnot?

[dgrunert]

There's a new documentary about Duffy and his "Overnight" success. It's supposed to be pretty brutal.

www.apple.com/trailers/in...night.html (http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/overnight.html)

[Pen Dragon]

hated it

[Otis]

See Overnight. It is pretty clear why no one wants to work with him.

[SoulJackerUK]

Britain has no idea who this mythically Duffy guy is. I'll check that documntery out. Sounds interesting (if a little self propagating).

I read somewhere that Miramax wanted Brad Pitt and Matt Damon to play the two brothers, but Duffy said otherwise.

He does sound a little awkward...

[SoulJackerUK]

Crikey, going off that trailer, he seems like a right ***.

Good luck to him, though. :b

[refriedwhiskey]

Boondock Saints was a hoot.

[Postal Pictures]

Dafoe was the only thing special.

[refriedwhiskey]

I disamagree.

[Pencey]

Article 1 (http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec/EEN41d03f7b5fd99.html)

Article 2 (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/custom/showtime/sfl-shnightjan07,0,6682835.story?coll=sfla-features-showtime)

[britwrit]

Wow. Great articles. Imagine having two guys with a grudge against you making a movie about your fall from grace - especially with 350 hours of footage to play around with. Really, to be completely surreal, you could do a hatchet job on Jesus Christ if you'd followed him around for that length of time. And besides - is being a brain-dead jerk with no manners really that unusual in Hollywood?

[Todd Chainsaw]

I saw this over the holidays. My younger brother-in-law is obsessed with this picture, raving that it was the next Pulp Fiction and it was his favorite movie of all time now.

Intrigued, we watched it together - him quoting just about every section of the movie and preempting every 10 min with "this is going to be awesome... I love this part... etc."

My POV? There were some interesting moments, sure. DaFoe had some great lines. Other than that - over the top, contrived violence strung together with the kind of plot a fourteen-year-old fantasizes after playing ten hours of Grand Theft Auto.

I didn't have the heart to openly pee in my in-law's Cheerios, but he probably got the gist of my opinion when I got up to take a phone call.

"Do you want me to pause this?"

"That's quite alright"

10 minutes later...

"Do you want to know what happened?"

"They killed a bunch of people and cursed a lot."

Mr. Duffy seems a heck of a lot more interesting than his film.

Oh, and I hear he's making a sequel.

[Adam Isaac]

LOVED IT!!

"This guy was their target...the ***man."

"The what man?"

"The fat man."

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"Well, that's 2 sound theories in one day neither of which deal with a serial crusher. Kinda makes me feel like Riverdancing!"

I would've made this film myself if given the chance. Sure there's complaints, but taken as a whole......it entertained me! 7/10

[Biohazard EHW]

One of the worst movies I have ever seen. The writing was terrible, the directing was extremely bad, even for an amateur. Acting sucked too. There is not one redeeming quality in this whole suckfest.

[refriedwhiskey]

Todd, I wonder if you'd have a better opinion of the movie if you hadn't been led to expect "the next Pulp Fiction" (and then had the movie continually interrupted by your in-law's narration).

It's definitely not the next Pulp Fiction. Nowhere near it. But I thought it was an entertaining, manic, funny crime flick.

[Adam Isaac]

It's definitely not the next Pulp Fiction. Nowhere near it. But I thought it was an entertaining, manic, funny crime flick.

yep, once again I agree with my fellow whiskey drinker!

[billythrilly7]

Is Overnight on DVD? I gotta see this doc.

[Todd Chainsaw]

refried -

Possibly, probably. I'll give you that. I still think it's bad to mediocre at best.

But my opinion counts for sh*t. The fact is, a lot of folks dig this movie and have made it somewhat of a cult hit. Apparently enough so that Mr. Duffy has enough interest/backers for:

Boondock II: All Saints Day.

I won't be in line for that.

Everybody has their own guilty pleasures in Cinema. Mine happens to be Big Trouble in Little China. J. Carpenter flicks in general really.

[refriedwhiskey]

Actually, I'd rather they didn't do a sequel. I don't think it's a movie that wants a sequel. But that never stopped the movie biz.

[LostDogma]

I hope Duffy uses his typical restraint in making the sequel.

B.S. is a muchas over the top revenge flick. A pure masturbatory exercise. But other than that, it was interestingly done.

But isn't that what film is all about -- excess and lack of self-restraint. But disingenuously...

Who is Duffy going to depend on to make the film? He burned more bridges than the USAF in WWII.

[TwoBitHack]

Duffy strung up his own rope and hung himself with it. OVERNIGHT was an amusing portrait of megolomania and Duffy's fall from grace, a minuted after he got there, was more than deserved.

And just being an a**hole is one thing but being an anti-semite should have relegated him to parking cars for the rest of his life.

[Pencey]

Just saw Boondock Saints and I can't for the life of me figure out why Miramax would shell out money for such a pedestrian script.

It's a typical violent action flick aimed at 12 year olds. When I was a script reader, I saw read stuff like this every day and then threw it in the trash can when I was finished.

Dafoe's acting is the only good thing about it.

[rockridesva]

Also thought Boondock sucked it. Saw it several years ago, and yeah it sucked even then. I've been eagerly awaiting OVERNIGHT, ever sicne I read about it last summer. But I never heard where, when, or anything otherwise. Has it already come and gone in theaters??? IF it even hit theaters? Any idea about DVD realease then?? Anything?

[Pencey]

Scroll down and you'll see I started a thread on that film, Overnight. I got it from Netflix. When you see it, post your thoughts, but please post them in the other thread so we can keep these two movies apart.

[refriedwhiskey]

I was going to say I thought Boondock Saints was lots of fun, but then I realized this is a very old thread and I already said it. :rolleyes:

[velysai]

I saw it a few years ago. Liked it a bunch. I loved the part when got tangled in the rope and fell through the ceiling. There's this moment of "holy crap, what are we going to do?" and then they open fire, killing all the bad guys.

[Willoughby]

Loved it! Thought the execution was great, the story was great, loved the whole dang mess!

Especially loved the pub scene early on - but only because that's the pub I used to look at out my dorm window jr. year at Boston U. I bought some ancient heavy suitcases from a thrift shop to prop under my matress so I could fall asleep looking out over south Boston. When the light from its sign went out I knew it was past two and I really had to stop gazing and get to sleep. That was my best year there.

So, yeah, I'm probably prejudiced. But I'll admit that as a script it probably wouldn't have sold me. The execution probably makes up 90% of what I like about it.

[Biohazard]

check out my review of it:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0144117/usercomments-543

[MacG]

Yes, but how did you REALLY feel about the film?

[MacG]

...and Troy hasn't so much quit filmmaking as been outcast from the medium, so we're safe on that front.

[BottomlessCup]

After having a half-dozen people tell me how great this film is, I wass woefully disappointed. Most over-rated psuedo-cult film ever.

[Pencey]

I have a new respect for you, BC. :love:

[TwoBitHack]

40 minutes in and The Boondock Saints is proving to be a derivative, amateurish effort with some shockingly bad performances.

[Channel Zero]

If you haven't seen OVERNIGHT, I suggest you rent it. It's available on Netflix. It's a cautionary tale for anyone who hopes to make it...the message being, "Watch Troy Duffy, and then do exactly the opposite". This guy was a nobody who was annoited by Miramax, given a big check and the opportunity to direct his script...and because of his ego, personality and narcissism, he pissed it all away.

[DarrenJSeeley]

It took me a few years, but I caught up to the film a year and a half ago on DVD. I found some parts of the film were inventive with dark humor. The first act I thought was great. The rest was a horrbile mess.

[postalpictures]

Sucked.

[Pencey]

Sucked donkey.

[TwoBitHack]

And yet there will be a sequel. Go figure.

[Biohazard]

Sucked donkey.

Stop giving it more credit than it deserves.