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j over
01-04-2008, 05:24 AM
Regardless of whether this (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-01/04/content_7363917.htm) is really true, one thing is for sure: Big Willie has been a bigger draw at the box office on his last few movies versus Tom's last few efforts.

velysai
01-05-2008, 02:39 AM
Tom should be used to being the short one in relationships by now.

:rolleyes:

j over
01-05-2008, 02:42 AM
Tom should be used to being the short one in relationships by now.

:rolleyes:


True, I suppose.

wcmartell
01-05-2008, 02:50 AM
They were supposed to co-star in my friend Bill's SMUGGLER'S MOON script together, but it fell apart for other reasons.

- Bill

j over
01-05-2008, 02:53 AM
They were supposed to co-star in my friend Bill's SMUGGLER'S MOON script together, but it fell apart for other reasons.

- Bill


Can you say at all what were some of the "other reasons"? Just randomly-curious.

wcmartell
01-05-2008, 03:05 AM
Script was rewritten into crap, a bunch of expensive writers were brought on to try and get it back on track - but given the same notes that turned it into crap, and eventually they just shelved it.

Too bad, because it was a Butch & Sundance kind of thing about the airplane repo business... and my friend Bill did that for a living.

- Bill

Terrance Mulloy
01-05-2008, 06:14 AM
Script was rewritten into crap, a bunch of expensive writers were brought on to try and get it back on track - but given the same notes that turned it into crap, and eventually they just shelved it.

Too bad, because it was a Butch & Sundance kind of thing about the airplane repo business... and my friend Bill did that for a living.

- Bill

Is that one on your site Bill?

I'd love a read.

WriteByNight
01-05-2008, 01:41 PM
Tom and Will in the same film? It'd be an expensive one.

Will is not the biggest worldwide draw. It's Depp right now. Neither one of them will have the b.o. run Tom had from TOP GUN to MI:3. That was amazing. Unfair to ask of another star.

wcmartell
01-05-2008, 02:43 PM
Terrance - not my script, a friend of mine's - who is also named Bill.

And it would have been an expensive script without two $25 million stars and all their perks - lots of dog fights and it ends with planes crashing on the White House lawn.

- Bill

Adam Isaac
01-05-2008, 05:29 PM
Terrance - not my script, a friend of mine's - who is also named Bill.

And it would have been an expensive script without two $25 million stars and all their perks - lots of dog fights and it ends with planes crashing on the White House lawn.

- Bill

I can see Will Smith doing something like this.

It sounds pretty interesting. Maybe if they went for one name instead of both this could have happened.

Goon Squad
01-05-2008, 06:38 PM
Will is not the biggest worldwide draw. It's Depp right now. Neither one of them will have the b.o. run Tom had from TOP GUN to MI:3. That was amazing. Unfair to ask of another star.


Will Smith is THE number one box office draw in the world. No competition. He'll easily outpace Cruise before he's done.

sppeterson
01-05-2008, 07:09 PM
Combined their back-end would be like 45% of the gross? Throw in Speilberg and you've got a real-world version of The Producers!

Kid Rasta
01-07-2008, 12:06 PM
Will Smith is THE number one box office draw in the world. No competition. He'll easily outpace Cruise before he's done.

Absolutely! I am Legend ultimately should do bet. $250-$300 million domestically.

vmf
01-07-2008, 07:09 PM
Will Smith is THE number one box office draw in the world.

But only because Depp still cares about acting, and takes tough roles in intelligent movies, many of which still make money.

Will Smith just does big budget schlock, and the only times he's tried to be serious (like Ali or Bagger Vance) it was a huge bust.

wcmartell
01-07-2008, 07:16 PM
But Smith keeps doing it - ALI and PUSUIT OF HAPPYNESS, etc. He may not have been in as many great indie films as Keanu Reeves (not a joke), but he's doing that movie star thing - blockbusters and a sprinkling of acting roles to remind people he was in WHERE THE DAY and SIX DEGREES back when he was starting out.

You have to remember, Depp was not a star before those PIRATES movies - he was a Kilmer.

- Bill

Goon Squad
01-07-2008, 07:50 PM
But only because Depp still cares about acting, and takes tough roles in intelligent movies, many of which still make money.

Will Smith just does big budget schlock, and the only times he's tried to be serious (like Ali or Bagger Vance) it was a huge bust.

Well I said he was the biggest star - not the best actor. Depp's one of my favorite actors of all time but he isn't mr. blockbuster.

no other movie star besides Smith could have opened 'Happyness' - let alone taken it past $100 mill.

wcmartell
01-07-2008, 08:19 PM
Okay... ALI made over $58 million domestic. What Depp movie are you comparing it to, that ALI is a "bomb"?

FEAR & LOATHING's $10 million?

LIBERTINE's $4 million?

ED WOOD's $6 million?

Even NEVERLAND's $51 million is less than ALI...

You have apples and oranges here - Depp is a Kilmer and Smith is a Clooney.

- Bill

Signal30
01-07-2008, 08:34 PM
You have apples and oranges here - Depp is a Kilmer and Smith is a Clooney.

- Bill
That's funny... like comparing apples and oranges to beets and potatoes.

vmf
01-07-2008, 09:01 PM
Okay... ALI made over $58 million domestic. What Depp movie are you comparing it to, that ALI is a "bomb"?

I just LOVE how you conveniently forget all about Bagger Vance, which tanked hard and barely hit $30 million domestic. :rolling:

And the fact that Ali blew chunks internationally, taking in less than $30 million.

And the fact that virtually no one went to see the emsemble FX-fest Independance Day or animated Shark Tale because of Will Smith. Jeff Goldblum was probably a bigger draw at the time of ID4 and go ask 100 kids who the star of Shark Tale was and I bet you get a blank stare or "that fish?".

Nice try Bill.