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film_fan
05-19-2009, 05:54 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/empireblog/Post.asp?id=523

James Cameron believes 3D is the future but I'm not sure people are that excited by it. I guess if it helps to add a few more dollars to a film's gross we'll get more 3D films.

Dean
05-19-2009, 07:55 AM
3D is to get people out of their home theaters and into the cineplex. It's to give the viewers an experience they can't get at home and, hopefully, to help curb pirating of a film while it's in theaters.

I hope it's a success. Anything that puts people in the seats, that expands the box office, that gets studios to make more films is a good thing... for those of us who love movies and who hope to break into the industry.

vmf
05-19-2009, 09:15 AM
After seeing Monsters vs. Aliens in 3D and watching the Hannah Montana 3D DVD, my daughter has sworn off any and all 3D movies in the future - I just hate it, as it can cause eye fatigue, and just plain feels weird, no matter which movie or glasses I use.

Eyesight is strong in our family (mine is 20/15), and I just don't think this 3d-cross-eyed format is doing me any good. It's especially bad for young children, and I'm sure we've all heard about the kids who developed eyesight issues or went permanently cross-eyed after watching a 3D movie - great stuff!!

There is a valid reason why 3D is a fad that has quickly dropped in and out of our pop culture lexicon.

TheKeenGuy
05-19-2009, 10:23 AM
When it comes to something like UP that I really want to see, there's no way that I want the distraction of 3-D.

But maybe when they re-release something like TOY STORY or STAR WARS in 3-D, I'll give it a shot.

twk69045
05-19-2009, 10:59 AM
I've never heard of people going cross eyed from 3d movies.

Fortean
05-19-2009, 11:32 AM
I've never heard of people going cross eyed from 3d movies.

If one wears Gizmo's Ocular Esotropical Rectifiers (http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Books/Pix/pictures/2008/09/11/benturrin460.jpg) for an hour, after you get home from the 3D theatrical show, everything will return to normal, (or your money is refunded).

vmf
05-19-2009, 11:48 AM
I've never heard of people going cross eyed from 3d movies.

It's the same deal as people who go into epileptic shock during certain fast-moving video games - it's just the luck of the draw. Adults usually just get eye strain and fatigue but some young children (still developing) are susceptible.

You should read up on *exactly* what these 3D movies/glasses physically require of your eyes before making ill-informed jokes about it.

twk69045
05-19-2009, 12:14 PM
If one wears Gizmo's Ocular Esotropical Rectifiers (http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Books/Pix/pictures/2008/09/11/benturrin460.jpg) for an hour, after you get home from the 3D theatrical show, everything will return to normal, (or your money is refunded).

:rolling:

vmf
05-19-2009, 12:30 PM
Here's one article that covers off some of the dangers:

The Problem With 3-D
It hurts your eyes. Always has, always will.

http://www.slate.com/id/2215265/pagenum/all/

Signal30
05-19-2009, 01:42 PM
I think anyone that spends 6-10 straight hours a day getting close-range cathode pulses while playing GTA can deal with a couple of hours of 3D.

Now, the big deal will come when they figger out a way to play 3D so that it doesn't require glasses.

Why One
05-19-2009, 01:46 PM
This is the future of 3D gaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

I read that EA are producing a game using this technology. Not too sure how'd multiiplayer work.

twk69045
05-19-2009, 03:21 PM
This is just an early application, but they already have glasses free 3d.

http://rabbitholes.com/

Richmond Weems
05-19-2009, 04:19 PM
I saw Coraline in 3D, and, so far, that's the only movie I've seen in 3D where it actually worked. For me, I mean. There were no obvious 3D gags, and it really opened up the world that Coraline found herself in.

I am making it a point to see Up in 3D 'cause I want to see how Pixar handles it.

taurbabe
05-20-2009, 05:47 AM
I'll be working on a film in July that is supposed to be the first movie shot in 3D Stereoscope.

Terrance Mulloy
05-20-2009, 06:40 AM
James Cameron's AVATAR will get an exclusive 3 month IMAX run.

http://carpetbagger.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/imax-clears-a-path-for-what-could-be-a-good-long-run-of-james-camerons-avatar/

The current 3D tech and the 3D tech of old, don't work. Like everyone says - it's murder on the eyes and it doesn't really look that good. STEREO 3D however, is a completely different ball game. If a 3D technology is ever going to work - stereo 3D is the one to place your bets on.

Avatar is going to rock!

twk69045
05-20-2009, 12:08 PM
I agree it'll rock, but going 3-d exclusively is a bad idea.

Biohazard
05-20-2009, 03:34 PM
I don't give a toss about 3D as long as one must wear those goofy glasses to get the effect.

spacefarer
05-20-2009, 04:05 PM
3-D is just a stepping stone towards fully simulated or emulated environments.

Imagine an emulated environment that plays out in theatres in which you interact in infinite ways with the plot and story, identifying with the characters based on your perceptions, an interactive movie with many many many ends etc.

In other words, 3D is prehistoric technology commercially exploited in our present time.

Yes, it is the future but only the near future. It will soon be history.

vizfxman
05-20-2009, 04:42 PM
I'll be working on a film in July that is supposed to be the first movie shot in 3D Stereoscope.
Wasn't Final Destination 4 already shot in stereoscopic 3D?

taurbabe
05-20-2009, 05:33 PM
Yep, looks like your right. The movie I will be working on is called Dance Machine and it will be choreagraphed by Paula Abdul, so maybe it will be the first dance movie that is filmed in 3D Stereoscope.

Terrance Mulloy
05-20-2009, 07:17 PM
Imagine an emulated environment that plays out in theatres in which you interact in infinite ways with the plot and story, identifying with the characters based on your perceptions, an interactive movie with many many many ends etc.

I think that's a very thoughtful observation. In fact, I think it's where we're headed. Another twenty years. Maybe more, maybe less. But fully immersive and interactive 3D environments are going to be the way we view and enjoy movies of the future.

Some people are likening what they've seen of Avatar as the same kind of revolution Star Wars had in the late 70's. So in 20-30 years, we may look back on Avatar the same way we do with Star Wars. It was a film that changed everything.

Or maybe not.

We'll find out in December I guess.

spacefarer
05-21-2009, 03:56 AM
Some people are likening what they've seen of Avatar as the same kind of revolution Star Wars had in the late 70's. So in 20-30 years, we may look back on Avatar the same way we do with Star Wars. It was a film that changed everything.

Ditto.

Eagerly awaiting Avatar to come out. I am very curious.

film_fan
05-21-2009, 05:36 AM
If you want to know what the CGI in Avatar will look like, here's a demo of the technology:

http://www.image-metrics.com/project/image-metrics-unveils-new-warrior-demo

Image Metrics have provided the facial capture software for the movie. As you can see, it's highly advanced facial movement mirroring the movement of the actor. This level of accuracy has never been done before.

ShaneBlackFan
05-21-2009, 06:14 AM
Just tell a story.

spacefarer
05-21-2009, 08:04 AM
If you want to know what the CGI in Avatar will look like, here's a demo of the technology:

http://www.image-metrics.com/project/image-metrics-unveils-new-warrior-demo

Image Metrics have provided the facial capture software for the movie. As you can see, it's highly advanced facial movement mirroring the movement of the actor. This level of accuracy has never been done before.

It looks awesome, indeed.

Still, the story is king, imo. This will never change.

Dean
05-21-2009, 08:06 AM
Just tell a story.

Amen.

Dean
05-21-2009, 08:14 AM
If you want to know what the CGI in Avatar will look like, here's a demo of the technology:

http://www.image-metrics.com/project/image-metrics-unveils-new-warrior-demo

Image Metrics have provided the facial capture software for the movie. As you can see, it's highly advanced facial movement mirroring the movement of the actor. This level of accuracy has never been done before.

It still looks creepy, stiff and unnatural. All of this technology to try and replicate what nature has already perfected. Why not just use real actors to do the acting?

Pixar would never resort to this. Even though all of their films are computer animated they know that the story is the most important thing, not the technology or the star power.

It's the story that matters.

Terrance Mulloy
05-21-2009, 06:25 PM
Just tell a story.

They are. But the idea is to enhance it.

Cameron has stated numerous times - Story comes before anything else. I think everyone who's working in the medium knows that.

film_fan
05-22-2009, 03:58 AM
I think the new CGI facial capture technology will convince a lot of people. It's huge step forward and it looks pretty real to me. We'll find out how convincing it is when Avatar gets released and that movie is in 3D too. You get amazing effects and eyestrain all thrown in together! :p

Terrance Mulloy
05-22-2009, 04:02 AM
You get amazing effects and eyestrain all thrown in together! :p

:rolling:

Gawd, I hope not.