American Idol Final Six

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Discuss

[billythrilly7]

So far....

Carrie was ???? Who knows with that awful song.

BO IS AWESOME!!! There's nothing else to say about the guy. Except that his mom is a MILF and his dad is Kenny Rogers.

Vonzell was ATROCIOUS tonight.

We're at the half way point....

The three idiots are left.

[Loaded 4 Bear]

his mom is a MILF :lol I'm down with that.

[Salazkin]

Mere words can't describe how atrocious Constantine's voice is. In him you are bearing witness to the biggest hoax since Piltdown Man.

[billythrilly7]

I'm off to Circuit City.

I accidentally kicked my television screen in during Constantine's performance.

Be back soon.

[Pen Dragon]

Vonzell was solid. Stop by 711 and pick up a new brain, billy. Get a refrigerated one this time

Carrie continues to be 'sybil on stage'

Bo did his thing again and is safe

Constantine is growing on me. Maybe like a fungus. We'll see

Anthony finally twigged in my mind who he has always sounded like. Think REO Speedwagon

Scott was not strong. He has a voice and it'll be a sin if he has to go back to a joe average life, but that performance/song choice may very well have ended his journey.

I'd send Carrie back to Checotah on the evening stage though if it were up to me

[billythrilly7]

I'm back. Sorry, Pen, I didn't get your message in time. I'll have to keep on keepin on with what I have.

If Vonzell missed anymore notes she'd be....uh...she'd be a metaphor for something that misses a lot of notes.

I like the Russkie and his family, but there's just nothing there.

I got a new TV thanks to you know who.

And I quote Stewie from the Family Guy Promo during the commercial when I say...."Go Away Fat Man." or should I call him the "Heart and Soul of America?"
:lol

[Salazkin]

No one was very good tonight. Vonzelle was pretty good (though she did start a bit bumpy), Bo was distinctly unspectacular, though okay. Anthony made the most of his limited talent.

Carrie was remarkably ho hum. Scott was very uneven, though his worst notes are better than Constantine's best.

Constantine is growing on me. Maybe like a fungus.Are you running a fever, Pen? Constantine may have the whole Jim Morrison Lizard King thing going on, but my God, his vocals were the absolute worst since William Hung hit the stage.

[Pen Dragon]

I loved his rendition of Nights on Broadway last week.

I did.

I loved it

[billythrilly7]

http://www.thepostcard.com/walt/comic/cmc37.gif

[anomalies]

Bo was the best tonight.

Constantine is a good showman, even though he can't sing. Did you notice - no mascara? heh. bet he took a lot of flak for that.

Federov wasn't as bad as scott.

I missed vonzell's performance.

Carrie can't hold a tune.

Scott will go.

[Salazkin]

I loved his rendition of Nights on Broadway last week.I wasn't too keen on it, but fair enough.


P.S. I'd say it's a no brainer that Scott is gone this week.

[Geevie]

If Constantine doesn't show up on the bottom three tonight, I'd wager that he'll be in the final three, and very possibly the final two (with a Bo/Constantine face-off).

His performance was decidedly weak.

And I say that as a complete groupie.

I believe it to be a calculated risk, however. With his Pray for the Soul of Betty CD release next month, he's trying to wean the pop idol crowd set on how he can rock.

Risky, risky strategy, given how fickle the AI voting crowd can be.

Of the six, I think Scott should go home - but I fear for Vonzell.

I'd say that the bottom three should be Scott, Vonzell and Constantine but given the fact Connie's line was busy right up to the last minute (yes, I voted for two hours - don't judge me dammit), I'd say Anthony will still end up in the bottom three.

[Camera Obscura]

Vonzell selects challenging songs every week. She never plays it safe and always pulls it off. She's actually my favorite this season.

But I think it's Carrie who's going to win. You people under-estimated the red states during the Presidential elections, and you're under-estimating them again here. Carrie speaks to those people. God bless America!

[Rose]

Top three in order.

Vonzell

Bo

Carrie

Based on performance and pipes. If you can't tear up the stage, you won't be the pop idol rage.

Carrie will have a solid country career no matter what. Blondie can sing and sit on a straw bale.

Bo is a big question mark. He should hook up with Carrie and do the country rock stuff.

[billythrilly7]

I missed vonzell's performance

Let me fill you in.

She missed every other note for the first half of the song.

Evened it out and hit some big notes towards the end.

Smiled a lot.

And it was over.

If some company wanted to build and market a robotic R&B singer they would design it after Vonzell.

Good looks, good voice, big smile...but nothing on the inside. Just nothing.

http://liteblue.usps.gov/news/link/2005photos/05_0113idol.jpg

The Vonzell Doll....Coming to a toy store near you.

But hey, art is all subjective, so if you want to go spend your hard earned $100 to see Vonzell at the Stardust in Vegas, be my guest.

Or you can see Carrie knock'em dead at the MGM Grand with my friends from the red states. Good folk.

Or that clown Constantine can be seen at Circus Circus.(or the Mirage)

Bo and I will be at the HardRock kicking some ass!!!

(I'm not sure where you'll be able to see Federov and Scott in the future, but I'm pretty sure the words "Lounge," "Bamboo," and "Tikki" will be part of it.")

[TwoBitHack]

Which one is Paula Abdul bangin'?

[Salazkin]

:lol Billy.

You're wrong about Vonzelle, Billy. Her uneven beginning last night notwithstanding (and it wasn't anywhere near as disastrous as you make it out to be), she sang way better than anyone else. And she is clearly the best among a not terribly talented group this season. (NOTE: Latoya from last season would fvcking mop the floor with any of these contestants).

Carrie's got an exceptional voice too (though it didn't show last night), but if she could drag her proverbial a$$ off that bail of hay, she might be considered a "performer".

Bo seems like a terrific guy, but frankly he's WAY overrated.

Constantine... y'all know what I think of him.

Scott and Anthony - pretenders.

As Billy would say: Nuff said.

[billythrilly7]

Sal, my buddy, it ain't just about singing, it's about "it" as well. Bo has "it." Carrie has "it." The rest don't have it. Constantine thinks he has "it"
and sometimes looks like... http://www.easterncoastcostume.com/Pages/headgear/PONYEXPRESS2/PONYCOUSINIT2-2.jpg

..but he doesn't have "it."

I quote Bono. "Other bands played better and looked better but they didn't have 'it.' ALL we had was 'it.'"

It ain't "America's Best Singer." It's "American Idol." Nuff said.
:D

P.S. What kind of life am I leading that I'm not driving my kids to school right now or sculpting a great work of art in Venice? I'm writing long posts about the American Idol TV show. Hmmmf. I was in all advanced classes, the world was mine for the taking, and this is where I've ended up. Hmmf...

Okay...now nuff said.
:lol

[A Pathetic Writer]

I thought everyone was below average last night, but Carrie especially so. She sounded bad on a Martina McBride song, for god's sake.

Hell, Martina can't sing and SHE can sing that song. Come on, Carrie.


I predict Scott, Federov, and Carrie in the bottom, with Carrie or Scott going home. (My instinct says Carrie, my common sense says Scott).


Anwar's been busted out of my top 3, so my new top 3 is Bo, Constantine and Federov, with Constantine winning it all.


And DON'T even get me started on Fonzette, who while having proven herself a talented singer, screams "I'm a friggin idiot" everytime she opens her mouth to speak. Last night's example: Calling Tae Kwon Do "Karate."

[Geevie]

Hell, Martina can't sing and SHE can sing that song.

<clank>

Sorry... that was my jaw hitting the ground.

Martina McBride has some of the most powerful pipes in country music.

The problem with that song is it doesn't show it off.

I'm not so sure that Carrie will see the bottom three yet. She made it through last week's debacle unscathed, and her performance last week was much, much worse than this week. I still cringe thinking about it.

Bad.

Baaaaad.

I think she'll make the final three, no problems.

I think this is Scott's (long overdue) week to go home, even with all the manipulative editing they used primarily for weakest three contestants.

Long live "reality" TV.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Sorry Geevie... for whatever reason, maybe cause she lives here or something, Martina's ALWAYS a friggin opening act for Country here in LA (saw her open for Toby/Billy Ray, George, and B&D)... and man.. she's got "Independence Day..."

And that's about it.

[Geevie]

If you haven't heard it, try Whatever You Say.

That's my favorite of all of her songs.

I love to belt it out at the top of my lungs. I'm just so glad Simon isn't in the backseat of my car.

"If I'm going to be honest with you..."

[A Pathetic Writer]

She's been singing country for what, 15 years now? I'll let her advance to "two-hit wonder."

:|

[Geevie]

LOL that wasn't her only hit.

She's had a lot.

My Baby Loves Me (my own personal anthem)
Life Number Nine
Independence Day
Whatever You Say
When God Fearin Women Get the Blues
This One's for the Girls
A Broken Wing
Concrete Angel
Love's the Only House

Etc, so forth and so on.

She's one of my favorites.

[Pen Dragon]

Whatever "it" Carrie has she should take antiobiotics for it immediately

[Kel]

The main thing I realized from last night's show is that a lot of incredibly boring songs have come out since 2000.

I thought Bo's choice was decent, but other than that I thought they were yawners. I'd never heard Vonzell's, Carrie's, or Ferorov's songs before. I realize this is probably partly because I'm getting old, but sheez...

k

[Stupendous Hack]

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONSTANTINE WENT HOME?!?!

OVER FEDEROV?!?!?!


WTF??!?!!?


AND SCOTT'S STILL IN IT?!?!??


IS EVERY FAT F-CK IN AMERICA VOTING FOR HIM JUST BECAUSE HE'S FAT?!?!?!?


Geez.


I'm no fan of Constantine, but gimme a fuggin break.

He's better than Federov and Scott.


I TOLD you people that the AI voters were stupid.

[Camera Obscura]

Dude, you do realize some people live on the west coast, right?

[Geevie]

IS EVERY FAT F-CK IN AMERICA VOTING FOR HIM JUST BECAUSE HE'S FAT?!?!?!?

Some fat chicks voted for Constantine.

Namely this one.

I'm... I'm crushed beyond words.

[Pen Dragon]

Thanks for the spoiler, opty >:



KILL OPTY!!!

[velysai]

Well, since the cat has already been let out of the bag...

I missed last night's show, but after his farewell song, I can see (hear) why Constantine got ousted tonight. But I didn't hear the others' songs, so it's not really fair to judge.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I thought he was cute, too. But, the only song I heard him sing that I actually liked was "Bohemian Rhapsody".

He worked that one out. :rollin

[Kel]

Dammit!!!!!!

[Kel]

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[billythrilly7]

You're forever off the hook, Deus Ex.
:lol

[Geevie]

I missed last night's show, but after his farewell song, I can see (hear) why Constantine got ousted tonight. But I didn't hear the others' songs, so it's not really fair to judge.

Actually, he sounded better tonight. I think maybe he overshot it yesterday.

Either way, he showed he's a star with the way he went out.

I wish it were a hoax, I'm still shocked beyond words. I have lost all interest in watching this show now. And I love Bo... but I'm not even sure of him anymore. If the American voting public bought that emotional BS about Scott and his daddy, they won't give a flying f*ck about how talented Bo is or how great Carrie sings. They'll vote for that underdog all the way.

But no matter what happens, we haven't seen the last of Constantine Maroulis.

Long live PFTSOB.

[Salazkin]

WTF?!

Opty - prematurely ejaculate in private next time.

I knew we had the east coast / west coast thing to contend with, but since I'd never ever seen anyone spill the results, I managed to not even think it could happen.

My dismay at Opty's antics is largely mitigated by the joy of seeing Constantine jettisoned from the competition.

See ya Connie!!! BWOOHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! :evil

[billythrilly7]

I'm off to Circuit City.

I accidentally kicked my television screen in during Constantine's performance.

Be back soon.

My instincts are honed.

It's like a new day here on earth knowing that I won't have to live with Constantine as my American Idol.

And for all my fellow Constantine haters, trust me when I say that from this day forward...

"Food will taste better. The air will seem fresher. We'll have more energy and self confidence than we ever dreamed of."
SeinThrilly

[sarajb]

Oh, Billy!

:rollin

Good times, luv. Good times. :)

[Jitter Bug]

I wish it were this easy to get rid of Bush

[billythrilly7]

Yes, sara. Good times.
:D

http://www.sapere.it/tc/img/Musica/2003/Articoli/Hippies/Hippies.jpg

I want to join a summer stock production of Hair. I want to hike in the Andes. I'm calling everyone I know just to say "I love you."

I've never felt this alive.

[Geevie]

I wish it were this easy to get rid of Bush

The same people who voted for Bush are probably voting for that wife beating ghetto wannabe.

Or AI Barbie.

My new prediction... Carrie and Scott in the final two, with the Dough Boy Wonder walking away with it all.

I shoulda known... I shoulda known. After the election I shoulda freaking known.

[anomalies]

I think Constantine's wearing mascara and eyeliner is what did it, not his horrible vocals. He was appealing to females of all age groups, but when he started with the makeup, they couldn't take it anymore!! So, bye-bye.

Ah... (sound of relief)

Next, scott or federov (I say that every week).

[Stupendous Hack]

:lol


Sorry guys. I was so shocked (again, not a fan of constantine, but he shouldn't have gone until after Scott and Federov), I couldn't belay my post. So, please put out all those burning Optimus effigies.


Don't kill the messenger.


Hate me for other reasons. Not for this.

[Pen Dragon]

i'll just hate you for everything thanks

Scott won't win, Geeves. I have a soft spot for Scott though.

Bo has been telegraphed by AI as the winner for two weeks

[Stupendous Hack]

Is this Bo or Billythrilly?

http://ompi.onemodelplace.com/OMP_Images/Model/93178/93178_m_BCAEE3C5-2B3D-897A-2BACEFACC3D882A9.jpg

[billythrilly7]

The same people who voted for Bush are probably voting for that wife beating ghetto wannabe

I'd love to see you connect the dots on that statement. WHAT!?! Yeah, it was that 8 Mile Eminem, Gangsta Rap voting block that got him re-elected.

:rolleyes

Bush voters are voting for Bo and Carrie.

For the life of me, I can't figure out who's voting for Scott.

[billythrilly7]

In the Red State/Bush Corner:
Bo
Carrie

In the Blue State/Kerry corner:
Vonzell(Florida was red, but..nuff said)
Scott

In the Communist/Socialist/ corner:
Anatoli "The Russian Bear" Federov

It's gonna be close.

[Camera Obscura]

Can I just say APW has got the worst track record for Americal Idol predictions. He actually picked Constantine to win. :lol

[Stupendous Hack]

He also picked Carrie to go home tonight.

:x

[Geevie]

For all my Constantine supporters:

www.petitiononline.com/12...ition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/123aifix/petition.html)

I know there can't be THAT many members of the Wife Beaters of America to keep Scott in this competition.

I'd love to say Bo would win, but I also never in a million years thought Constantine would get trumped not only by Scott but by Anthony.

[Salazkin]

Can I just say APW has got the worst track record for Americal Idol predictions. He actually picked Constantine to win.Hence his low profile tonight? Or maybe he's just not back yet from his nightly run to Del Taco. :lol

[bottomlesscup]

Not sure what's most ridiculous about that petition: the grammar, the spelling, or the sentiment.

Plus, as a rule, you shouldn't sign anything written by someone named omfgwtfpolarbear@yahoo.com.


Edited to add:
<----- Suddenly hopes Geevie isn't omfgwtfpolarbear@yahoo.com :p

[billythrilly7]

Paula Abdul...

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/musik/music-smiley-019.gif

She serves no purpose on the show. Please retire.

[Camera Obscura]

Constantine must have felt like a real butt-hole when he joined the wrong group. But man, talk about an insult to Vonzell and Anthony.

[Pen Dragon]

Agreed about paula. Embarrassing display. The Titanic didnt just sink

Guess Connie didn't grow on me afterall. I shed nery a tear.

[Geevie]

<----- Suddenly hopes Geevie isn't omfgwtfpolarbear@yahoo.com

Damn. I've been found out!

:lol


Did y'all know about this?

www.griffinity.com/dave/ (http://www.griffinity.com/dave/)

[A Pathetic Writer]

Let me state, for the record, once and for all:

I am the Authorized of AI Picking.

[A Pathetic Writer]

By the way, I also believe the show is 100% rigged, and the votes do not matter at all, in fact are likely not even counted. It always impresses me that every single week (for 3 years now) Ryan has been saying they've been getting a record number of votes.

This was a necessary step toward convincing America that Simon's fave, Bo, is the next AI. Only one rocker allowed.

Bastages.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Final thought: It's probably payback of some sick way against Constantine for allowing his band to release their old album outside the AI wing.


BASTAGES!

>:



Pathetic, out!

[A Pathetic Writer]

Final Final thought:

It's clear the producers saw the vast disparity between the girl cast and the guy cast, and HAD to kill one of the better men to make an evener-looking playing field for the finals.

Now, instead of 2 great guys (bo, const) and 2 average guys (scott, feddie) versus one good girl (fonzie) and one good-looking girl (carrie) you've got 1 great guy, and two average guys, against 2 girls who can probably knock off both Federov and Scott.

A powerplay by the producers to make the weakest female field in series history look a little more palatable for the final 5, and practically guarantee a female in the top 3, possibly top 2.



>: >: >: BASTAGES!!!>: >: >:

[Geevie]

I had a thought earlier. A desperate thought, mind you, but a thought nonetheless.

Okay, it makes absolutely no sense to me how a guy who has NEVER hit the bottom three suddenly gets ousted. I called and voted and the lines were busy all the way to the end. I know he got a lot of votes. Not saying it's not within the realm of possibility that Scott (herk) could get more votes - but since he's consistantly been in the bottom three for weeks and his performance was just as weak as Connie's, it seems highly unlikely.

So I was thinking... ok. IF this is scripted reality, what better way to drum up ratings by eliminating a fan favorite and then saying "oops... there was a mistake" (like the revote a few weeks back). If they had to rebroadcast the show it would coincide nicely with the Primetime Live next week with the AI expose.

Then I thought, nah. Conspiracy theories are cliche. It's just bad luck. Maybe he actually threw the competition so he could go rock out and tour with his CD release, etc. (I've worked hard to find logic in these strange and disturbing events, as you can tell)

I happened onto the AI boards and saw someone had said that she had a friend at the beginning of the season tell her that someone would get ousted, there would be a voting problem and they'd be brought back.

If that happens... well...

I'm not just swimming in the waters of denial.

:b

(It's a really good thing none of y'all had any respect me before, because my credibility is officially shot now.)

[Pen Dragon]

In the 1979 Stanley Cup playoffs my team, Boston, was eliminated in sudden death overtime by Montreal. I was devastated. My world was in ruins. I cried and cried, we were so close.

Then I got the notion they would review the goal, discover someone was in the crease, and they'd bring the teams back out and re-drop the puck.

I never gave up hope


And any day now I expect that's what they'll do

[billythrilly7]

Interesting theories, Geevie, but let me educate you on...

(from Wikipedia)
Occam's Razor:
In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. A charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions.

The simplest version as to why Constantine is gone is the one I would go with.

HE SUCKED

..and the country finally woke up.

Thank god.

[Pen Dragon]

Billy is prattling on about Occam's Razor??

WTF is going on here

Was there some kind of interplanetary collision

Am I dreaming this?

Did I get some bad McNuggets earlier??

[billythrilly7]

Occam's Razor is one of my old standbys. Been using it for years.

Old School Thrilly.

I LOVE Occam's Razor.

[Geevie]

The simplest version as to why Constantine is gone is the one I would go with.

HE SUCKED

..and the country finally woke up.

So he went from never being in the bottom three, having legions of fans, rabid female fanbases, getting the most applause and shout outs etc from the audience to...

going home?

Erm. Okay.

:\

The problem is not that his performance wasn't weak. I even said I anticipated he'd finally make the bottom three. The problem is Scott Savol, who has consistantly been in the bottom three, suddenly got more votes than Constantine when his performance was just as poor.

I know those lines for Connie were busy - I know many, many people who voted all the way through and the lines were busy. There's just no way that he got the lowest amount of votes.

That's not how it works in Gingerland.

In Billysville maybe, but not Gingerland.

8)

[Mike Samonek]

Constantine must have felt like a real butt-hole when he joined the wrong group. But man, talk about an insult to Vonzell and Anthony.

That little bit of business was the most sadistic thing I have seen them do in an already fairly sadistic season. It crushed the spirits of four people in one fell swoop.

But man, what great television this makes for!

APW, I'm glad you're around with your conspiracy theories to make me look relatively sane. :lol

[billythrilly7]

So he went from never being in the bottom three, having legions of fans, rabid female fanbases, getting the most applause and shout outs etc from the audience to...

going home?


Yes. Exactly. Thank god.

He botched up his performance and his "fans" let him down. Adios, sucker.

"Legions of fans, rabid female fanbase."
:rollin

I know those lines for Connie were busy - I know many, many people who voted all the way through and the lines were busy. There's just no way that he got the lowest amount of votes.


Just because the phones were busy in one part of the country doesn't mean they were busy in another part.

He had the lowest amount of votes. End of story. Live with it. Maybe Scott picked up a big chunk of the Anwar constituency. Who knows?

But I know this. He's gone.

P.S. In 1969, the United States of America put Neil Armstrong on the moon.

[billythrilly7]

I'm sorry you're in so much pain, but don't worry, Geevie. May 10th is right around the corner...

www.prayforthesoulofbetty.../index.htm (http://www.prayforthesoulofbetty.com/pages/1/index.htm)

I'm sure it will be a smash hit and your fandom will be vindicated.

And if holding on to the Constantine conspiracy theories helps you sleep at night then that's cool...Maybe you're right. One never knows now does one?

Regardless, I wish you better luck in your American Idol watching future.

[mdbftp]

This should explain everything:
www.griffinity.com/dave/ (http://www.griffinity.com/dave/)

[Rose]

Constantine went home becuase he's a suck up scheemer.
The video of him and his family, at the end, he had the suck up nerve to say, I hope I win the competition, it would make my family so happy.

America will put up with off notes, mascara and bad hair, but don't you dare be a brash suck up!

Go Bush!

Here's a tip for the Democratic party. Next presidential election you folks get Scott involved in campaigning for you in Ohio. If Scott is the new version of Everyman... Ugh, that's sad. Did he have a job before Idol?

[writerly]

I think he went home because I forgot to vote. :| and now I live to regret that I didn't plan my life around Idol. I'm with Paula, you know, I may as well just weep, weep at my TV set!
ok, I must admit, Bo rocked. I thought he was just awesome.
Vonzelle - sucked. Carrie was the same deer-in-the-headlights good vocal blase performance. She's going to win, anyway. Federov was better, but not my cup of tea. But whyohwhyohwy in god's name is scott still around!? talk about heebie jeebies.

[Pen Dragon]

A reasonable opinion as to why Constantine met the hangman

www.idol-thoughts.com/smoresfr7rsc.htm (http://www.idol-thoughts.com/smoresfr7rsc.htm)

[writerly]

thx, interesting link (for my early morn reading) and agree but the last part, i thought scott's vocals sucked...

[Geevie]

Regardless, I wish you better luck in your American Idol watching future.

That's going to be an easy one, considering I won't have one.

There's no reason to watch now.

"Here he is, ladies and gentleman, your American Idol - Scott Savol."

If America wants a woman beating poser for their Idol, then I wash my hands.

Bo is too good for this competition.

[writerly]

hey G,
if nothing else, I will now watch PTLive's Idol expose with renewed vigor as my man C went home!!!
there's no point in even rooting for bo, scott redstate carrie will win.

[Geevie]

I'm with you, writerly.

And it's not like I expected Con to win - I never thought either Bo or Con would win. I didn't trust the American voting public that much. See November 2004.

But I certainly thought he could outlast the likes of Scott. I mean pah-lease.

People say they find Connie arrogant or creepy or a poser. Well, Connie never insulted the voting public with, "you're there and I'm here" like like He Who Shall Go Unnamed. And Connie never got arrested for beating his girlfriend... like He Who Shall Go Unnamed. Connie doesn't act like ghetto white trash, like like He Who Shall Go Unnamed.

But whatever. I'm bitter, but I'll get over it. Eventually.

One bright light - Connie's going to be on Ryan's radio show at 9:00CST.

www.kiisfm.com

And yeah... I'm soooo watching PTLive on Wednesday.

Wild powervoting guntoting wife beating redneck idiots couldn't drag me away.

[JesseNC]

Sheesh, some major biggotry going on here. Reminds me why I stopped reading these AI threads. My creepy ass rock star/actor/greek god got voted out and it's ALL THAT FAT WIGGER REDNECK'S FAULT.

It's a TV show.

[Pen Dragon]

Man, it's tough trying not to get hit by Scott's flying teeth in here

[sarajb]

Constantine was cute and he could put on a show. That's all I'll give him. Scott isn't so bad. He has kind of an Aaron Neville (sp?) thing going on sometimes and I find that sweet. I don't really care who wins. I'm watching for Simon.

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Enough on the treatises about why Constantine was eliminated.

Plain and simple: HE SUCKED HAIRY HOG TEAT.

The women have the best voices. Beyond that, it's a fvckin crapshoot.

[A Pathetic Writer]

The women SO do not.

[Loaded 4 Bear]

The women's voices are far from flawless, no doubt. But the guys' voices are worse. A fluid and powerful voice that occasionally gets pitchy (the kind of voices that the women have and to a lesser extent Scott) can be developed rather easily into spectacular voices that do not get pitchy. A consistent and non-pitchy, very good, yet unspectacular voice (the kind of voices that Bo and Anthony have) will not get any better. You're seeing all there is to see. And to me, that's not enough.

Frankly, they all blow compared to Latoya from last season.

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Cue Billy with his "it's not called 'America's Best Singer', it's called 'American Idol'". :lol

Which begs the question: what's your definition of an IDOL, then? It's a pretty nebulous characterization of what we might consider simply a pop icon. If so, perhaps we should as well judge on the basis of their fashion sense, their comedic wit during interviews, their sex appeal, etc. If that's the intent, it's not for me to argue. But why do they constantly refer to recording contracts, album sales and such as their reward/prize for this exposure on AI? They're not being promised a comedy show or a continuing role as Elsa Klensch's sidekick on Style. It's the singing, baby! Make no mistake.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Yes... because as we all know, from such stellar talents as Jessica Simpson, my darling Lindsay Lohan, and Breast-Popping Justin Timberlake...

Being a teen singing idol has EVERYTHING to do with the actual SINGING.

:|

[billythrilly7]

Cue Billy with his "it's not called 'America's Best Singer', it's called 'American Idol'".

Which begs the question: what's your definition of an IDOL, then? It's a pretty nebulous characterization of what we might consider simply a pop icon.

Yes on the first line!

And the second...

THE WHOLE THING IS RIDICULOUS!! From the first second this show went on the airwaves and I heard the title I've been screaming "None of these people will ever be American IDOLS! They all suck!" And they do. No clear thinking American would spend a dime to see Clarkson, Stoddard, Aiken, Fantasia(although she had a little star quality), or any of them. Little kids aren't clear thinking, they're little kids, so it's fine.

Elvis was an American Idol. Sinatra. Michael Jackson. Madonna.

Every contestant that has ever been on any of these shows SUCKS in the grand scheme of things.

It's an embarrassment to all Thrilly's that I even watch the show. Thank god for Simon. Without him, there's nothing.

The show at it's very essence is ridiculous, but there isn't much to do on planet earth so I guess it serves it's purpose.

Long live Simon. Long live American Idol.

[Salazkin]

Thank god for Simon. Without him, there's nothing. I agree. That's why I started watching this show and the only thing that's really kept me interested.

[velysai]

I love Simon, too! And even though he gets booed for everything he says, he still ends up being right in the end.

But I like Kelly Clarkson. I think she has an amazing voice and she has that girl-next-door appeal. She's an American Idol like Sandy Bullock is a movie star.

I'm just waiting to hear some of Fantasia's shiznit on the radio.

[A Pathetic Writer]

I like Clay. He's on my Ipod.

No, literally.

GET OFF THAT, YOU SPIKY HAIRED HOMO!

[Stupendous Hack]

Fantasia is awful.

Kelly and Clay both have incredible voices and have been immensely successful (Clay much more than Kelly).

[velysai]

I think Kelly has been more successful than Clay. She's had more hits.

[bottomlesscup]

Clay has sold more records than her. And he's behind one album.

Teenage girls love gay guys.

[writerly]

Enough on the treatises about why Constantine was eliminated.

I know, I know but he was my fave... :|
I will start throwing things at my TV if Scott sticks around...

I don't think it's fixed, but don't you think it's weird how sometimes Seacrest's comments are designed to influence? Like when he kept saying that C reminded him of Clay?

I was like, WTF?

[Salazkin]

Fret not. Scott can't last. And Seacrest is a douchebag.

[billythrilly7]

I have Scott, The Russkie, and Vonzell in my sights.

But Scott and The Russkie are targets of "the highest priority."

Those two have got to go.

[roscoegino]

Thread should be called American Idol Final Fix.

I can't believe Scott and Clay Faken are still in. Scott wasn't even in the bottom 2!!!!

He has heart and so do alot of other Americans apparently.

[billythrilly7]

Update:

CONSTANTINE STILL OUT

[Loaded 4 Bear]

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/party/party-smiley-048.gif

[anomalies]

As I said before, AI is fixed. Even the guy on the morning show The Buzz says so.

I agree with (forgive me) Pathetic when he mentioned Constantine's band signing a contract having something to do with it. Although Constantine did not sign the contract, the recording was previously made and it includes Constantine's vocals.

I think the AI contract has become more exclusive over the years and that is why Mario (whom I think would have won) backed out and that is where Constantine's lawyers found a loophole that allowed his record to be made, despite their contract.

It's fixed, people.

anomalies IN! 0]

[writerly]

"found a loophole to make it" ?? my understanding was this was an old album made way before he was on Idol.

hey, I'm all for a good conspiracy theory, but the whole fixed thing, I'm not sure about...

[Camera Obscura]

Who the f-ck is the guy on the morning show The Buzz? And what the f-ck does he know?

[billythrilly7]

Even the guy on the morning show The Buzz says so.


I'm sold. Is there any more reliable source than THE GUY on the morning show THE BUZZ?

[Geevie]

Pray for the Soul of Betty - currently #3 on the Amazon top seller list, up from like 200 and something a week ago.

AI served its purpose even if he didn't win.

As for the whole contract thing, I think that has little to do with it. AI seems a lot more laid back in what they expect from their idols this year.

Paula went on record saying that because Simon told Scott he should "pack his bags", it sent those who would vote for him to the phones in droves.

Also there's that whole "Vote for the Worst" website which encourages people to vote for the worst contestant. Scott is their poster boy.

For whatever the reason, his success is inexplicable to me. He can sing aiiight (personally I think Anthony is the better singer of the two), but he just isn't a performer. And he's a bit of an ass if you go back to the Hollywood auditions when he wouldn't participate in the group thing they had to do.

So even though, of the remaining five, Bo is the one who SHOULD win (performance/presence/talent), I wouldn't count on it.

Too many variables.

I'd rather handicap horses.

[jkk808]

Carrie should win.

[anomalies]

"found a loophole to make it" ?? my understanding was this was an old album made way before he was on Idol.

You misunderstood what I said or else or I phrased it unclearly. Constantine's lawyers found a loophole in the AI contract that he signed which allowed his band to put out a previously recorded album.

I am sure that pissed them off.

[anomalies]

www.imdb.com/name/nm1725870/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1725870/)

[writerly]

ah, I see.
Well I'm with Geevie all the way. ditto, ditto.
everyone should band together and vote for BO in protest. Call like 30 times, it's not that hard. I'll do my part.

[Camera Obscura]

So Anomalies, are you intentionally obtuse or are you just yanking our chain? When we ask who the Morning Buzz guy is, we didn't just want a name -- we wanted a reason as to why you're so wet for this guy that his far-removed opinion on a TV show he has no involvement with means so much to you? So much that you would actually take the time and effort to cite him as if he was an expert and we're supposed to be swayed by it?

Why?

And don't say it's because of a "feeling." Not too long ago, you had a "feeling" that Clay Aiken went on record to say Idol was fixed. I provided a link, evidence that proved your "feeling" wrong. So your metaphysical pit-of-the-soul hoo-hah has a poor track record. Try and use that noodle of yours to answer: Why?

[anomalies]

ob -

I remember reading something about Clay Aiken and AI "being fixed." It was well over a year ago - I do not remember the exact statement! I alreay accused you of spoiling my fun, as I SAID BEFORE, but you CHOOSE to ignore this! What is your problem?

So, I tried to see if something was on the 'net, and found this:

"Clay Aiken Fans Claim 'American Idol's' Results Fixed

07/12/2003 10:00 AM, LAUNCH
LAUNCH Radio Networks

(7/12/03, 10 a.m. ET) -- It seems that not everyone was happy with the outcome of this season's American Idol. A large group of AI fans have banded together online and have started an email campaign to Fox and the Federal Communications Commission (or FCC), alleging that the talent contest was fixed in favor of winner Ruben Studdard.

A group of emailed complaints collected by TheSmokingGun.com--who requested them from the FCC under the Freedom Of Information Act--profile various complaints, including the accusation that Fox provided fewer lines for runner-up Clay Aiken's voters, that judge Simon Cowell deliberately refrained from picking on Studdard's weight, and that the Fox producers lied about the number of votes received.

The FCC is said to be looking into the matter."

from music.yahoo.com/read/news/12061726 (http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12061726)

That MIGHT be what I remembered, or not, I don't recall the details BECAUSE IT IS UNIMPORTANT. Reread that part again a few times, okay? You're the type of person who needs several rereads.

[Camera Obscura]

If it was so unimportant, why did you bring it up in the first place by citing it as if it was truth? You're a fountain of misinformation -- spouting nonsense as facts, promoting emotions as deductive reasoning. So if all this is so unimportant to you, that must means you don't say these things to make a point -- you're subversively admitting you just simply like to hear yourself talk.

The piece you cut-and-paste is a far cry from "Clay Aiken said the show was fixed."

[anomalies]

Ob - I said I was having fun, not extrapolating theories based on facts. lol

Go back. Reread. Cool down. I will say again that I do not remember where that bit of "Clay and fixed" came from and that it might be that I remembered it from reading an article like the one I just posted. If you think I am posting facts, that is your own thinking. It has nothing to do with anything I said! I did say, did I not, that you were spoiling my fun? What do you think that really means? I was being totally serious? Um. Wanna guess again?

Walk away, ob, walk away...

[Camera Obscura]

I never thought anything you posted was fact. That is why we're having this discussion -- that's what I've been trying to point out to you. Remember? It is you who are posting content without distinguishing what you think is fact or fun. Shall we blame this on your poor communication skills? And simply put, I think you are a liar. I think what you posted previously is something you strongly believed in, but now that you've been proven wrong, you are trying to spin it in a different context. What are you, Republican?

It is intellectual cowardice to be proven wrong, then backtrack by saying you were just having fun. Come on toots, those sort of debate tactics may work on your crazy cat collecting friends, but not here.

[English Dave]

Oh CRAP. Why are thse AI threads even on here? Who really gives a @#%$? I mean seriously?

[mdbftp]

We do it just to annoy you.

[anomalies]

is it? I thought it was obvious we were all posting our own opinions or being silly. I don't think any of us were being all that serious, or posting facts. But since you don't see that, well - I think it clearly comments on what kind of person you are.

ob - you are drinking too much 'something' to be taking this subject so seriously.

The thing is, you don't like ME - it has nothing to do with AI. I get it now.

Go back in the sandbox and play with all the other toddlers. I'm not going to play with you anymore. (That means I'm not going to respond to any of your posts anymore. I feel I do have to spell everything out for you, because you obviously don't get it.)

[A Pathetic Writer]

The thing is, you don't like ME - it has nothing to do with AI. I get it now.

About time.

[writerly]

is it? I thought it was obvious we were all posting our own opinions or being silly. I don't think any of us were being all that serious, or posting facts.

I was dead serious in my devotion to Constantine. I mean, really, what could possibly be more important than seeing his sick bod, tall, in those tight black pants strut in his very good Jim Morrison impression.

fact: Constantine was the best.

let's leave off the personal attacks and get back to what's important people: AI. Everyone pool all this negativity into 30 phone calls to vote for BO so as dumbass Scott won't win. Like I said, I'll do my part.

[anom- don't take them personally...]

[Pen Dragon]

Constantine safely back in the arms of his boy band



http://kkpro.ca/press2.jpg

[Geevie]

I was dead serious in my devotion to Constantine. I mean, really, what could possibly be more important than seeing his sick bod, tall, in those tight black pants strut in his very good Jim Morrison impression.

fact: Constantine was the best.

Finally. Someone sees things as I see them!

Actually I never even made it as far as the pants. I was all about the hair... then he had me with the eyes... I had just discovered he wore his shirt buttoned down -

so you can see now what AI robbed me of.

And why I'm so darned pissed about it. :b

:evil

[Camera Obscura]

Anomalies, I don't know you well enough to not like you. It is your irrational approach to thinking which I dislike, and the way you present your "thoughts" here, particulary this thread and the topic at hand.

Admit when you're wrong, learn from your mistakes. Your mother should have taught you that.

Go Carrie!

[anomalies]

Pen and Geevie - they're all hugging each other. I think most men like to touch each other but won't admit it. In a way, this photo is refreshing.

I do think Constantine is cute, and I think they got rid of him because of the record deal his band made.

[Pen Dragon]

The producers probably finally latched on to the fact that Constantine was just using AI to promote his band. Once that record deal was signed last week all bets were off. There was subtext in Constantine's last song choice. The kicks at the camera. The lyrics. It was a big FU really.

[Camera Obscura]

Here I thought Constantine was voted off because he actually sucked.

[Pen Dragon]

well that too yeah

[anomalies]

and he knows it.

He had a huge female fan base. I don't believe for one moment that he was voted[ off.

You made some very good points, Pen. 0]

[Mike Samonek]

With all the scrutiny Fox and AI are under right now and the allegations and whatnot, they're not rigging any votes (not that I think they ever were) - regardless of the fact that "Betty" signed a deal with the label that signed William Hung. If AI thought there was money to be made from the Betty record, they would have signed the band out from under them.

The producers don't have to rig the votes to get the show they want. :lol

[Camera Obscura]

But Mike, forget all that logic stuff -- what do your feelings tell you?

[billythrilly7]

Someone Poison ME.

excruciating

[billythrilly7]

Has he put on weight?

He looks extra big tonight.

I'm just saying.

[billythrilly7]

Vonz..

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/wuerg/vomit-smiley-024.gif

[billythrilly7]

There's nothing much to say.

Bo is great.

I feel safe when he walks on stage.

I know I'm in good hands.

Great job as always.

[billythrilly7]

Carrie...

hmmmmmm.....

didn't love it...but she's still better than those first three...

[Salazkin]

After the first round tonight:

Anthony blew fist-sized chunks
Scott was so-so
Vonzelle defied description (I didn't care for it)
Bo was solid
Carrie was solid

It's increasingly looking like Bo and Carrie as final two.

[billythrilly7]

Federov's IInd was his best ever, in my opinion. I was actually able to watch and semi-enjoy.

[billythrilly7]

10 pounds easy. I'm almost positive.

Eh performance. Not awful. Not great. That's pretty much his M.O.

He's average. He's the guy from the office who gets up at the Xmas party and does Karaoke and everyone says "You have a great voice. You're good, man."

But he's not, really. He's okay.

[billythrilly7]

Finally, a decent performance from the Vonz. Not great, but okay.

She's just so boring. No edge or charisma.

[billythrilly7]

Not my favorite Bo performance, but he's a pro. Solid as always.

Nuff said.

[Pen Dragon]

yed not like cvarrie ::rolleyes

[Pen Dragon]

will yoyu just post onvce????

[Geevie]

She's just so boring. No edge or charisma.

You sure you're not talking about AI Barbie?

8)

[billythrilly7]

Great job, Carrie.

Billy has a couple tears in his eyes.

[writerly]

Bo - awesome as always. Carrie actually pulled it off, I liked her second song, it had some feeling behind it. just fortheloveofgod, pleeeeze scott go home.

[Camera Obscura]

Finally watched last night's episode on Tivo.

Did you see how after every Scott song, they'd cut to a row of hot girls with the title card: "Scott's friends"?

Seriously? Are we supposed to believe these are his true friends? Or are they girls he found hanging out at the Grove and recruited them to sit in his VIP area?

With that said, Scott did well last night because he chose songs that were perfect for his range.

Carrie was solid, but man, she cannot dance. I've never seen a girl having so much trouble shaking her booty.

[Mike Samonek]

Pen, the 8 to 9 hour is awfully early to be so drunk. :lol

[billythrilly7]

Pen, the 8 to 9 hour is awfully early to be so drunk.

:lol

Dat be what I was thinking.

[A Pathetic Writer]

That's like, 10:00 metric, so it's ok.

[Salazkin]

Dave knows just enough to be dangerous. :lol
Did you see how after every Scott song, they'd cut to a row of hot girls with the title card: "Scott's friends"?

Seriously? Are we supposed to believe these are his true friends? Or are they girls he found hanging out at the Grove and recruited them to sit in his VIP area?I was thinking exactly the same, CO. Like "what's wrong with this picture?" Has Scottie the Body already accumulated a bevy of groupies, or what?

[anomalies]

Hmm. I noticed it, too, guys. I hafta say most famous people, who are guys anyway, have pretty girlfriends or groupies. It goes with the territory. The girls want a famous boyfriend or want to be seen next to a famous man. Sorry, it happens that way. Not me, though. I vant to be alone. 0] (Go home, ET!)

Vonzell is amazing, except she seemed to be singing the songs like she thought they should be sung, and seemed unnatural. Maybe she's really an alien?

As for Carrie's vocals - they were pitch perfect - what a nice surprise, however, she didn't put a lot of feeling into the songs.

Bo was the best of the group.

Scott wasn't his best, but at least he did pack more punch/emotion this week. Usually, he makes me fall asleep.

Federov's time to go. Sorry, blondie.

[Camera Obscura]

Have you ever been anally probed?

[Pen Dragon]

Pen, the 8 to 9 hour is awfully early to be so drunk

i seem to be having trouble remembering what i did between 8 and midnight last night

[billythrilly7]

AOL POLL RESULTS

"Who do you want to win?"

BO - 53%
CARRIE - 37%
ANTHONY - 4%
VONZELL - 4%
SCOTT- 2%

Exactly as it should be.

[A Pathetic Writer]

i seem to be having trouble remembering what i did between 8 and midnight last night

The two cases of Molsons' empties should be your first clue.

[Salazkin]

My head hurts just thinking about it. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/party/party-smiley-021.gif

[Pen Dragon]

no beer empties. theres a dead voddie bottle here though

[A Pathetic Writer]

The moose carcass in the jacuzzi is your second clue.

[Salazkin]

Sounds like Dave's got you on the 24-hour webcam, Pen. He musta called in a favor with his buddies at Canucklehead Cable.

[billythrilly7]

Wow.

[billythrilly7]

Thank god!

[billythrilly7]

Is that the move?

Try and cry your way to the next round?

I ain't falling for it.

No matter what the reason is.

This is American Idol. The most important talent contest in the history of planet earth. I will not compromise my judging integrity because of a few tears.

Not this guy. No way.

[billythrilly7]

Tonight's show stinks....

WHY IN GOD'S NAME, THREE WEEKS AWAY FROM THE ANNOINTING OF A NEW AMERICAN IDOL, ARE THE PRODUCERS MAKING THEM SING SONG'S FROM THESE HORRIBLE CATEGORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHHHHHH!!!!!!

IT SHOULD BE EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF AT THIS STAGE OF THE COMPETITION.

AHHHHHHHH!!!!

[Pen Dragon]

why did Carrie and Anthony sing the same song?

That stinks

[billythrilly7]

Because they keep choosing these obscure song writing teams that have like one or two good songs that people know.

Entire show tonight...atrocious

[Salazkin]

I guess I should count my blessings for having missed it.

[Joe Unidos]

Listen, this has driven me crazy about the AI posts for months, so I am going to vent a little...

It ain't fixed! The producers want to sell records, so they want the winner to be the one who is the most popular, so they don't fix the voting but in fact are desperate to know who is the most popular. How do they do that? By accurately reflecting the voting.

Anyone who thinks it's fixed is crazy. Anyone who thinks they "got rid of" Constantine is crazy.

Sorry for the stridence.

[dclary]

It's fixed. Quite obviously, too.

[anomalies]

It's fixed. So says dclary, so that is that.

Only, I am openminded, and say it COULD be fixed. But maybe it's not.

[billythrilly7]

There are a thousand reasons I can think of for why the show isn't fixed, but what scares me is the one reason why it is.

[billythrilly7]

P.S. It's not fixed.

[dclary]

Believe what you want. I've got 3 chords on this one.

[billythrilly7]

Please don't go conspiratorial on me. Please. I count on you.

In the history of planet earth there have been maybe, MAYBE, 3 or 4 conspiracies.

I assure all that the stupid American Idol TV show is not one of them.

[Geevie]

There is no "reality" in reality tv.

We all know that.

It's not a f*cking conspiracy... it's damn fine editing and manipulation.

As is ALL media.

[Pen Dragon]

Carrie loves Anthony

[dclary]

Ok, so who got knocked off???!?!?!?!

[Geevie]

And tonight's reject is.....

>>>Anthony<<<

[billythrilly7]

http://www.80snostalgia.com/classictv/ateam/sounds/planctg.mp3

[billythrilly7]

Tonight's show was hot, hot, hot.

[Loaded for Bear]

All I know is
It won't be Bo to go.