American Idol Tonight

[anomalies]

Well, I have to say, Constantine was actually good tonight, singing a 90's Bonnie Raitt tune. Caught me by surprise.

It was the only performance I caught, however.

How was everyone else?

[jkk808]

Um, Constantine sucked.

Girls rule.

Carrie, Nadia, Vonzell, that's it, that's the list.

[Pen Dragon]

Vonzell's a star. She's gonna win it all.

[billythrilly7]

http://library.thinkquest.org/3230/images/wrong.jpg

[billythrilly7]

Carrie or Bo is gonna win it all.

http://basecampearth.org/exp3/img_intro/intro_yes1.gif

[jimjimgrande]

Goodbye Federov.

Scott may drop a few pounds sweating it out though cause his neck is on the chopping block, too.

[Gillyflower Cooms]

I think Jessica is bound to go before Federov. The little girls won't want to see him disappear yet.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Fonzette sucks ass. But she did a good job tonight.

[Camera Obscura]

That Whitney Houston song is one of the most difficult to sing. Vonzell was great.

[anomalies]

I like Vonzell, so I'll check out her bit at the voting tonight.

jkk - Bo is good. I think overall Constantine sucks, but he wasn't bad last night.

(I give them all fresh chances each week.)

[Geevie]

My only problem with Constantine - he picks songs I absolutely hate.

Last night was no exception.

Ruff.

Bo, Nadia and Anwar all disappointed me last night. But Carrie finally did a good job.

Scott, Jessica and Nadia - my guesses for the bottom three.

[PeekABooBang]

Constantine surprised me. He and Vonzell were my favorites last night.

My bottom three were Anthony, Scott and Jessica. Two of my faves, Anwar and Nadia, didn't do so hot either.

[A Pathetic Writer]

I agree with Geevie here. I like Constantine. He's a softy underneath that heavy metal exterior. But Gosh! I hated that song even when Bonnie Ratt sang it.

[Loaded 4 Bear]

/swoons

Constantine is just so dreamy! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/wuerg/vomit-smiley-020.gif

[anomalies]

I guess this means I'll watch the recap/voting tonight since I watched PGL on Bravo last night instead.

Thanks for the info!

[Salazkin]

Same here, anomalies. Since PGL is repeated several times per week, I had been taping PGL and watching AI. But PGL is SOOOOOO much better, that I just couldn't resist. >D

[A Pathetic Writer]

I've heard of this PGL. What is it? Any good?

[Salazkin]

:|

[Kel]

I'm guessing Fedorov will be booted tonight, and that Scott and Jessica will round out the bottom three.

k

[jkk808]

Veronica Mars rulez.

[Gillyflower Cooms]

I think more girls vote than boys and still think that Jessica
will go before Federov.

[A Pathetic Writer]

As I stated from the beginning: boys far better than the girls. So far, there's 6 guys left, and only 3 girls.

Any questions?

[StRogue]

Nadia got on the wrong side of the judges when she
mentioned Mario two weeks ago. She's got a big hole to
dig herself out of now.

Solomon did great. As did Carrie. The next group to go will
be all guys.

Charli

[Bill Marquardt]

Any questions?

Yeah. Are you a racist, sexist, homophobe?

[jkk808]

Everyone knows that apw is into guys.

Not news m'kay?

[A Pathetic Writer]

I am a racist. I believe the human race is the best.

I am a sexist. I believe there are physical, psychological, and emotional differences between men and women.

I am not, however, a homophobe. Gay people don't scare me. In fact, gay women attract me.

[A Pathetic Writer]

And besides, what does any of that have to do with anything?

My favorite picks for the top five, in order: Bo (or Constantine) at #1, Anwar #2, Federov #3, Carrie #4, Nadia #5.


Only Carrie or Nadia have the chops to meet the worst of the boys. But neither of them can beat the cream of the crop.

[Mike Samonek]

Yeah. Are you a racist, sexist, homophobe?


This has no place in this thread.

[A Pathetic Writer]

hate wastin a post on it, but....

:rollin

[Salazkin]

hate wastin a post on it, but....Uh... right, Dave. :rolleyes

[A Pathetic Writer]

Bastage! It's all your fault! I gotta burn all 20 every day to catch you, you prolific sommamabitch!

>:

[Salazkin]

BWOOO HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA!!! :evil

[A Pathetic Writer]

:rollin





:|

[jkk808]

Carrie, Vonzell, Nadia.

That's it, that's the list.

[anomalies]

You never know. Maybe they'll have a surprise contestant in one of the last shows who will blow everyone away.

Maybe, APW, the surprise singer will be an 0] :rollin - a hermaphrodite alien! >D

Hi Salazkin! :|

[A Pathetic Writer]

So, JKK says that with nine contestants left... 6 men and 3 women... the next 6 folks voted off will be every man.


I would LOL, but that's just sad.

Sad, man.

[creativexec]

4/5/05

Okay, so I though Nikko got the bum rush
tonight. He was fabulous! Thought Bo
gave the worst performance. I've heard
Barry "Greg Brady" Williams do a better job
with that song.

Don't have a clue as to how American will
vote.


:D

[Kel]

Ditto. I just voted for Nikko three times (and it took me about ten tries, because the line was busy)...

k

[Pen Dragon]

We all see it different I guess. I thought Nikko was the worst of the lot myself. Followed by Scott, and Nadia just because of her stand-offish diva-before-I've made it attitude. Vonzell and Anwar, and dare I say it Constantine, I thought did the best. Anthony did himself no favors with that song choice. His popularity isnt high enough to sing Nun tunes. He or Scott will get the bus ticket home tomorrow night

[Geevie]

My predictions for the bottom three:

Scott, Nadia and Anthony.

And I agree, let's not let the person in charge of picking showtunes pick themes anymore. What a boring show - blech.

Although it was Constantine's night to shine, given his musical theater chops.

[Stupendous Hack]

Yeah, I actually thought Constantine nailed it tonight. Not a fan of his, but he, I think, gave the best overall performance. Not to mention his vocals...finally...sounded pretty tight.

Carrie looked hot, as always.

Bo kinda sucked.

But, Federov....oh, man.

His rendition sounded like a cheesy 70s lounge act that you'd see on a Carnival Cruiseline stage.

[PurpleCurtain]

Anthony did himself no favors with that song choice. His popularity isn't high enough to sing Nun tunes.
Pen Dragon, thanks for the belly laugh. SO TRUE.

I thought Nadia stole the show. Savol and Federov are definitely in the bottom three, I think. If I had my druthers, I'd put Anwar in there, too, just because I'm bored with him and want him to go away. I thought Nikko was shaky at best. Bo, Constantine and Vonzell were okay, nothing special, not sucky. I hated Carrie doing her country thing with "The King & I," but she hit the notes.

Let's hope they give the remaining eight a decent theme next week...i.e., not disco or salsa.

[Pen Dragon]

I'd like to see a theme night that doesn't hand Bo a Soul Rock tune and he has to tie his hair back and dress like Michael Buble and actually sing something. He's getting it way too easy every week to find a safe song. Is he just a one trick pony Rock singer or can he actually sing?

[Salazkin]

:lol @ Pen.

I only saw the first three: Scott, Constantine, Carrie. I guess I don't get it with Constantine. I thought he sucked. But so many of you liked him, I'm beginning to question my judgment. He may have consummate talent in every aspect of showmanship but vocal ability - the only one that matters to me. :\

[OrpheusMc]

You say that like merely being a good rock singer is somehow a bad thing. Bo or Constantine winning this is gonna make me more than likely actually listen to the idol CD that results. (I haven't ever heard nor do I care to hear whatever EZ-listening crap came out of Clarkson and Clay Achin'.

[Mike Samonek]

You surrender any and all "rock" cred you may have had in life the second you even audition for that show. :b

I don't get this season at all. Nadia keeps showing up in the bottom three, which baffles me.

But I think the combination of bad press and bad performance equals no more Scott.

[billythrilly7]

I guess I don't get it with Constantine. I thought he sucked.

He sucks like no one has ever sucked before. He sucks in the same way the Backstreet Boys and 98Degrees sucked.

I despise his voice and stupid smile and stupid glare into the camera.

It gives me flashbacks to the musical graveyard that was 1997-2002.

Boy Bands R.I.P.

Constantine - Die like that movie that shares your name!!!

P.S. And Federov..time to go back to playing hockey...cause...

http://www.t-shirtking.com/graphics/153-00164.jpg

[Salazkin]

Thanks, Billy. :D

And yes, Mike:You surrender any and all "rock" cred you may have had in life the second you even audition for that show.

[Pen Dragon]

http://kkpro.ca/constantine5.jpg

Just wait'll I lay "I want you to want me" on you next
week, billy.

[Geevie]

Mercy.

[Stupendous Hack]

He looks like the homeless Lt. Dan (Gary Senise) in "Forrest Gump" in that pic.

[Salazkin]

Ha! Good call, Opty. He DOES look like Gary Sinise, and particularly in said role from Forrest Gump.

[billythrilly7]

http://www.movie-winners.com/posters/pix/garysinese.jpg

[Loaded 4 Bear]

:rollin

[Geevie]

I thought Lt. Dan was the best Sinise ever looked.

Sigh.

I'm such a shameless hair hussy.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Nadia goes tonight.

She's placed in the bottom 3 twice in a row -- and did absolutely nothing last night to move her up. Goner.

Given that same rationale, Scott could go too.


Jkk says a girl's going to win this. I've got a wager for him too rich to pass up:



JKK808: A PSP says a man wins Idol this season. You willing to take those odds?

[jkk808]

You willing to bet a PSP that Nadia isn't the one to go tonight?

[Stupendous Hack]

It's gotta be Federov tonight.

There's a cruise ship out there just waiting to give him a job.

[A Pathetic Writer]

No, as I stated, it could equally be scott or nadia, so I don't have that big a set of cajones.

But, given my secret information, culled over several solid seconds of intense contemplation, I am certain a man will win overall.

[roscoegino]

I think Constantine is one of the best ones. He's a break from the norm. The pop/R&B thing gets monotonous after a while.

And yes, he is Gary's illegitimate.

[A Pathetic Writer]

How they rank, right now, per claryscoring:

Bo
Anwar
Constantine
Federov
Carrie
Nikko
Fonzette
Scott
Nadia

[jkk808]

Carrie, Nadia, Vonzelle...

that's it, that's the list.

Bo can stick around till final four if he wants.

But any scoring system that places Federov so high is deeply flawed. Clearly claryscoring is like russian judging.

[A Pathetic Writer]

And federov is a russian name. Duh.

Dude, no WAY the next 6 people eliminated is EVERY MAN!

You're so insane as to make calling you insane an indictment of my own insanity.

[jkk808]

I never said it was my list of people surviving eliminations dumbass.

It's a list of the best singers left in the competition.

Carrie, Nadia, Vonzell. That's it, that's the list.

Bo is a'ight, but no American Idol. At least he doesn't bring Clay or Justin levels of suckiness.

Everyone else is laaaaaaaaaame.

Savol? Lame and fat AND can't sing.

Federov? Lame and russian and nerdy AND can't sing.

Nikko? Lame and son of no-hit shortstop and can only sing mediocre R&B songs.

Anwar? Lame and dredded and boring and can at least hit one note per song, but still can't really sing.

Constantine? Lame and date raper in training and can't sing as good as Bo.

[Pen Dragon]

Carrie is bland as bleached whites

Nadia looks like she tasted a sour load every time lyrics escape her mouth

Vonzell is personable, classy, gorgeous, cute, lovely, tops herself every week, never sounds off key, wears a dress 2 out of 4 performances, and is your next American Idol.


And if not, damn your country and every moron in it to eternal hell

and especially damn dclary

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Pen: conversely, do you think Nadia looks like she's singing every time she... :x

[Pen Dragon]

i couldn't say. But I do know this -- she's a good singer if you don't have to see her

[Camera Obscura]

Who here would f-ck the baby fat off of Carrie Underwood? Show of hands.

[anomalies]

spoiler if you haven't seen the judging tonight:
























Nikko got the ax. I, personally, agreed with the judges and felt that Federov and Scott were the 2 worst performers, not Nikko (although he wasn't good).

Constantine is calculating! Did you hear him say he could act, too??? HA HA HA HA HA!! Some pushover (like Geevie) female with power in Hollywood will no doubt scoop him up (into her bed) and put him in a movie! (projectile vomiting)

He IS good looking, though. AND, as a former singer, I agreed with the judges about the fresh arrangement of the song he sang. He purposefully selected a (as he called it) "sexy" song, too.

[Geevie]

Is that all it takes to get him into bed??

Humm... new incentive to become a high powered female in Hollywood. :b

I just realized... Constantine is approaching the laminated list....

Damn that soulful stare....

[Salazkin]

:lol @ Camera

/raises hand

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Nikko... see ya!

[Pen Dragon]

Vonzell in the bottom three almost made me have a psychotic meltdown.

Nikko was likeable enough but can't sing on key for even half a song. Last night he was terrible.

Scott was lucky to dodge that mortar shell though.

[Loaded 4 Bear]

How about Nikko's farewell song - twelve notes, eight of them out of key.

[Mike Samonek]

Nadia looks like she tasted a sour load every time lyrics escape her mouth


Are you insane? The woman has a radiant smile and she uses it to great effect when she sings.

[Stupendous Hack]

I'm raising both hands for the Carrie question Camera asked earlier.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Let's see... who did apathetic have in his bottom 4?

Scott, Nikko, Fonzette, and Nadia.

Who did America have in their bottom 3?

Can I pick them, or can I pick them?



To be honest, I thought it would be Scott before Nikko, but Nikko needed to go anyway, so no harm, no foul. My rankings are intact, with no changes needed as a result of this vote.

[Pen Dragon]

Sorry Mike. She grates me. All that sneerin' and grimacin' and saunterin' and bad ass on stage a'tude, and that ugly 70's lid she has. Woof! if it comes to looks, even Constantine is prettier.

Again, sorry.

[Mike Samonek]

To each their own.

[Pen Dragon]

Freddie Mercury whirling in his grave?

Or not?


When did Carrie turn into Britanny Spears. ugh

Bottom three tomorrow night

Nadia looked hideous but sang way better than the judges said. They're song snobs.

[Salazkin]

There's so much that goes into one's impression 0f the performances that are of secondary or even no importance: personal affinity for song selection, the performance of the accompanying instrumentals, stagemanship, and of course vocal ability. To me the last is at least 80 percent of what really matters, and the second to last is the other 20 percent. The instrumentals and our personal biases are largely beyond the control of the performers.

That said, I actually liked Constantine tonight, being biased by song selection (Bohemian Rhapsody, despite overplaying, is simply a rare classic in the annals of rock). As a "rocker", he can sing pretty well, and he has the whole Jim Morrison act down pretty well. By traditional "American Idol" standards, where pop singer qualities are sought, Constantine (and Bo, for that matter) do not rate very well.

Tonight's summary (IMO):

Good: Anwar, Scott, Bo, Constantine

Poor: Anthony, Nadia, Carrie

[Pen Dragon]

I'd rate Carrie easily the worst.

After that it gets tight.

Constantine should have to land in the bottom three sooner or later. Scott was off singing the low notes, but flew high through the chorus. Anthony I always like for some reason. Vonzell was again the best of the show.

Carrie, Constantine and Scott in the bottom 3. With the shocking elimination of Constantine. I can see him really pissing off male lovers of that song enough for them to pull the phone cord out of the wall before their girlfriends and sisters get to it

[roscoegino]

Nadia's choice of song was not a wise one. She has the voice, but Crystal Gayle she's not?

Bo was just alright for me. Scott sounded terrible at first but nearly redeemed himself toward the end.

I have yet to like Clay Faiken.

Vonzell sounded great but she's a bit too pop and starry eyed for me. She seems to be the type who'd be happy to sing anything a producer puts in front of her. That spells boring no matter how dynamite the talent.

Anwar had a shaky start (as usual) but finished strong.

I dug Carrie's performance even though many did not. I've always dug Constantine.

[billythrilly7]

Me after Constantine's performance tonight....

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/214/930/320/puking%20for%20me.jpg

[Salazkin]

:rollin

[Gary Whitta]

Constantine blew the doors off, yo!

That could be the season-winning performance, right there.

It's weird because I think Constantine came into the Final 12 looking (or at least sounding) relatively week. He didn't look quite sure of himself and his voice didn't have quite the resonance his material required.

But as the weeks have gone on it seems like he's really found his confidence, and his voice. "Bohemian Rhapsody" just put him over the top; he looked 100% the pro rock star, and his voice was just perfect for that song, I loved the stuff he did with it. It's really rare that I dial back to the TiVo to listen to a performance a second time, but Constantine demanded it.

I kinda wish he had got to sing the entire song... if he makes it to the final he may do what Fantasia did with "Summertime" and bust it out again because I think it's pretty clear now that this song is his trump card.

[Stupendous Hack]

Carrie is hot and has a great voice, but the fact that she can't remember the words to her songs two weeks in a row may be portentious. She did okay, tonight, at best. But she wasn't at all "terrible." She can and had done much better. But, damn she's fine.

I don't think she'll win, but she could still be a bankable young country star.

I'm not a big fan of Constantine, but he's impressed me the past few weeks. I actually think he's better then Bo, because Bo picks crappy songs (Freebird?!) and his voice really irritates me. Sounds like he's got an apple stuck in his throat. He also doesn't have "the look" as much as Constantine.

Also, did anyone else notice that they put the two most seemingly popular singers last (Carrie and Constantine)?

Did anyone else notice the way they lit Constantine's performance? They rear-shining spotlight, the low lights, the mood they created. He's the only one they did that for.

Seems like they were really trying to create an oh-so-NOT-subtle mood to push Constantine even further ahead of the pack. Subconscious desires/preference of the producers?

Hmm...

Anwar did well. Good vocal range. Crisp voice. The whole Maxie Priest look bugs me, though.

Vonzell did okay and she has an almost Kelly Rowland (Destiny's Child) kind of hotness to her. But she needs more voice control.

Nadia's all gimmick and her act has grown tired. She didn't do well at all. She has a good voice, but I think the reason many people liked her so much in the beginning is just because of the 'fro. It's "different" and "rebellious."

Yeah, it's also cliche now...after only a few weeks. All style, no substance underneath.

I still think Federov should've been gone after last week's performance. He did okay tonight, but overall he just ain't got what it takes.

Scott has a decent voice but has consistently shown poor voice control and bad song selection. He also doesn't have "the look" by any stretch of the imagination. The top half of his face reminds me of the sumo wrestler from "The Replacements." Actually, all of him does.

Top: Constantine, Anwar

Middle: Carrie, Bo, Vonzell

Bottom: Nadia, Federov, Scott

[Geevie]

Bo picks crappy songs (Freebird?!) [/quote}

Blasphemer!!

:b

Constantine knocked it out of the park IMO. He doesn't have Freddie's vocals but he made up for it in showmanship. I believe that's why the producers played to his strength. He knows how to work the camera and the crowd, which, also IMO, is necessary for anyone seeking "Idol" status.

I actually thought Carrie did great. Probably because I was just so damn relieved to see her moving around the stage and actually *performing* instead of just singing. She's obviously been taking lessons from Constantine how to work that camera.

Scott - good lord. Not good. And Nadia, bless her heart, she's not long for this competition.

Other than that I really couldn't tell you who will round out the bottom three. I think Bo could finally land there. Not because he didn't rock the house with the song he chose (cuz he did) but A. He came on early in the show and Constantine's Bohemian Rhapsody makes Bo's Freebird almost forgettable and B. it's like Simon said. Taking on a southern anthem considered sacred by many was a risky choice.

I'd like to think his fans would be psyched by the song he chose. I know I was.

But it could easily be Anwar too. I love him to pieces but that song might have turned the audience on him.

No matter who lands in the bottom three, Nadia will be the one going home tom

[mdbftp]

I think they were all a bit pitchy and I didn't like their choice of songs.

[Salazkin]

I pretty much concur with SHack, except I'd switch Scott and Carrie in his rankings.

I'm re-convinced that Anwar has the best voice/vocal control of the entire bunch. The thing that bugs me a little about him is he strikes me as a Stevie Wonder retread, and his song selections are lame or wimpy.

Scott sang pretty well, I thought, but he does not, and I repeat DOES NOT have the look of a pop star (rapper/hip hop funkmeister: yeah; pop star: no) -- for that reason alone he's out.

Nadia and Anthony have got to go too. They just don't belong in this elite bunch.

These are the Top 5 (in order):

1. Vonselle
2. Anwar
3. Bo
4. Carrie
5. Constantine

That's my judgment, not my prediction of the outcome. The outcome is anybody's F'in guess.

[billythrilly7]

Constantine knocked it out of the park IMO. He doesn't have Freddie's vocals but he made up for it in showmanship.

Showmanship? The guy is a freaking tool. He's a fake. He's a musical theater actor. He's everything that is, could be, or ever will be wrong with rock and roll and the music industry.

Get him off the show A.S.A.P. before he pollutes more no talents out there who think they can grow their hair long, smile and prance their way to being a rock star.

Bo is the real deal as far as having rock and roll in his soul.

Constantine is the mutant offspring of the boy band era.

Let him go play Kenickie in Grease or better yet, Putzie in Grease.

Get off the stage, Constantine because....

http://www.t-shirtking.com/graphics/153-00164.jpg

[Pen Dragon]

He is a cheeseball lol. And I agree, the show really coddled him with the quick camera angles and special lighting. Bo is far and away the better and more genuine of the two. Constantine is totally an actor mimicking a rock star. He's all about theatrics.

[Salazkin]

And what is it with Paula, anyway? Last week she says to Constantine "I'm falling in love with you" like some lovestruck sixth-grader. Wow, is she feeding the Teen Beat pre-pubescent girlie fan base or what (or is that the Fedorov niche?). Then this week she continues to swoon over him. It's stupid to take this too seriously (and I don't), but she borders on the unprofessional. I guess since she has nothing of substance to say, she has to resort to teeny babble. Sheesh.

[Pen Dragon]

She's drunk or high as a kite every time she's on TV lately. Don't be surprised if she's judging the finalists from Betty Ford

[billythrilly7]

Paula is an embarrassment.

If she doesn't carbon copy EXACTLY what Randy says, which she does 95% of the time, she's at a loss for words. She has nothing to say at all. EVER!!!!!! She doesn't help these kids at all.

She wastes all of our time. Get a female in there with an opinion, good or bad who brings something to the table, and I mean that literally and figuratively.

Paula....

http://www.t-shirtking.com/graphics/153-00164.jpg

[A Pathetic Writer]

Pen Dragon, you're INSANE.

Constantine blew the roof off his performance, doing FAR better than any single one of us have ever done trying to Waynes World that song in our Yugos.

It was awe-inspiring that he would even TRY such a gutsy song, let alone nail it.


NOW: AN ADMISSION.....
As much as I HATE Fonzette ("Being in the bottom three was nerve-wrecking (sic)")... She absolutely dominated her song last night. One of the top 3 performances of the night... ratten fratten.



Here's my new rankings, with movement from last week, per claryscoring:

How they rank, right now, per claryscoring:

Constantine (3)
Anwar (2)
Bo (1)
Fonzette (7)
Carrie (5)
Federov (4)
Scott (8)
Nadia (9)


Per my prediction accuracy last night, the actual bottom 3 will be 3 of my bottom 4.

I believe Nadia's gone this week. Hers was clearly the weakest performance of the night, and she's been in the bottom 3 twice already.

That said, Scott could go for the same reasons, but for some reason, I think he has a stronger fanbase.

[Pen Dragon]

Pen Dragon, you're INSANE.

On the nose dialogue

[A Pathetic Writer]

:rollin

[Camera Obscura]

To confirm what Pen said, it's a little known industry fact that Paula is addicted to pills. That's why she's always in a daze and at a lost for words -- not to mention her recent driving problems.

As much as I hate his smirky, butthole face -- Constantine has surprised me the last few weeks. Bo has gotten lazy -- he use to rock with ease, but now it seems forced. Seriously, who the f-ck goes on American Idol and sing Jim Croce and "Freebird"? Is he going for the red states' votes?

Carrie is the best female singer and will probably win the whole thing. She's got Kelly Clarkson's booty and the best voice to match it. My prediction for her career path: First 2 albums will do well, 3rd album will sink, 4th album barely registers, does a Maxim spread to reinvent herself (which causes tension with her parents), she does a few minor roles in films that flop, does Playboy for the money (parents disown her), falls into the wrong crowd and does porn, rehab, finds God again and writes a tell-all book by the age of 35.

[Salazkin]

First 2 albums will do well, 3rd album will sink, 4th album barely registers, does a Maxim spread to reinvent herself (which causes tension with her parents), she does a few minor roles in films that flop, does Playboy for the money (parents disown her), falls into the wrong crowd and does porn, rehab, finds God again and writes a tell-all book by the age of 35.Is this the 21st-Century American Dream realized? Could be. Today's youth saying fvck your business suits and two-car garage, your one-and-a-half kids and yearly trips to Disneyland.

P.S. Whatever happened to Reuben Studdard?

[A Pathetic Writer]

Reuben's gospel album was just released. Looks pretty good. Also, had a guest spot on the hit comedy "Life on a Stick" playing a singing Fish Fry Guy.

[Mike Samonek]

Did anyone else notice the way they lit Constantine's performance? They rear-shining spotlight, the low lights, the mood they created. He's the only one they did that for.

They did the same thing for Bo a while back when he did Whippin' Post. They really created a rock show feel for him which they didn't do for anyone else. That's a small part of how the producers manipulate the outcome. (Yeah, they do.)

I thought EVERYONE was terrible on Tuesday. Alas, Nadia will probably not make it this week.

And how long until Paula just takes off her top and throws it on stage in a pill-induced frenzy? I was momentarily embarassed for her, but then I remembered, Paula Abdul. American Idol. Eh.

[billythrilly7]

I'm pretty confident that the contestants can help create the show and feel they want IF they had any idea at all what they were doing.

During rehearsals, the band is there, the stage manager, the lighting guys...

If Bo said, "I'm gonna start my song down on the stairs. Can I get some backlight and then go to a 40 yellow spot as I cross etc...," the lighting guys would go "Sure. Well done, Bo."

OR...

They tell the slaves to "shut up and let us do whatever we want."

[A Pathetic Writer]

It depends entirely on the contestant's desires, and what they want to do. Constantine went for (deliberately, obviously) for a presentation that mimicked the original Queen video version.

[Mike Samonek]

Well of course they have some input in their presentation, but the show seems to clearly favor certain performers and gives them a bit "more." That's all I'm saying.

[billythrilly7]

Constantine went

"You said 'Constantine went.'"

http://www.kidbiz.org/periodicgenius/Celebrity/images/butthead.gif

[A Pathetic Writer]

Mike, actually... I FULLY agree with that

I thought they deliberately @#%$ the sound mixing on Federov's song last week.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Bo was a surprise in the bottom 3, but I picked it. Nadia. at the bottom.

Two chicks left. The callers voting "GIRL" will vote Carrie, and Anwar/Fonzette will split the "BLACK" vote... that means Fonzette's a goner. Carrie will be the last girl in the contest... but might not even make it to the final three.

[PurpleCurtain]

Savol, who blew absolutely huge, gobby chunks last night, got more votes than Bo and Nadia?

The end of the world is nigh.

Oh, and Americans and stupid and tone deaf.

But I'm not bitter.

:evil

[Pen Dragon]

Nadia's style was her undoing. It certainly wasn't her voice. I loved the song she sang on Tuesday. I listened with my eyes closed. She prunes the mop and learns to connect to her audience physically as well as vocally she'll land on her feet.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Scott's got a fan club of abused/abusive men who got no one else on that list to vote for. They'll take him much higher than he deserves to finish. I say he tops out at no higher than 5, but probably survives next week to get to 6.

Constantine needs to fully give his soul to the devil and sing a CREED song next.

[billythrilly7]

I listened with my eyes closed.

Don't ever say something like that again, Pen.

[Pen Dragon]

?

[billythrilly7]

You're a dragon. The thought of you watching American Idol in the first place doesn't sit well with me. Then visualizing you in your lair, with your "eyes closed" listening to the performances, swinging to the music, just gives me the heebie jeebies.

That's all.

[Pen Dragon]

I had to close my eyes because I couldnt stand the look of her.

And just because I have scales it doesn't mean I'm a real dragon

[billythrilly7]

I had to close my eyes because I couldnt stand the look of her

That's what I was looking for. Thank you.

G'night Done Dealers!!!

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Constantine needs to fully give his soul to the devil and sing a CREED song next.Creed songs are tailor made for Bo, not Constantine.

I like Bo's attitude: "Hey, it's cool I made it here (implied: but do you really think I give a fat sh1t if I do or do not progress any further like these other chumps who are about ready to crap their pants over the news of their departure?)" :lol

[Mike Samonek]

Constantine is 3 times the Scott Stapp Bo is :lol

[Geevie]

I can't believe Scott got more votes than Bo. :eek

But I was right on the bottom three and who went home.

What do I win??

8)

[billythrilly7]

(implied: but do you really think I give a fat sh1t if I do or do not progress any further like these other chumps who are about ready to crap their pants over the news of their departure?)"

I agree. Bo is probably half praying that he doesn't win this stupid contest altogether.

[writerly]

i'd like to hear some old school, like Three Dog Night or
Traffic. that would be awesome.

[Geevie]

I'd be up for some old school - that's why I was all about this week's show.

Bo - Let it Ride, BTO OR Joy to the World, Three Dog Night
Constantine - People are Strange, the Doors OR Need You Tonight by INXS.

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Me three. Though I'd call on Bo to sing Eli's Coming and Constantine... well he's already sung what he's most suited for: I THINK I LOVE YOU. He's classic Partridge Family. :lol

[Geevie]

One thing that confused me - that neither Constantine or Bo picked "Hair" on musical night.

I mean, come on!

:lol

[anomalies]

Once again, I missed most of the performances, but I heard all the recaps and must say - I didn't like any of them. I agree with Simon more each year.

Scott finished with a bang but started off-key - that is ALWAYS a n-no in my book. For instance, Bonnie Raitt is never off-key - I've heard her perform live many times. Carrie was often off-key. She really TRIED for a rocker performance but that was all it seemed - a forced, off-key try.

Also, poor Scott doesn't have what it takes in the looks department - AI is partly about looks - it's part of the total package. Constantine and Paula made me laugh. Him with his attempts at getting the girl vote and Paula at her attempts to act like a girl again.

Next to go? Federov or Scott.

[Pen Dragon]

They'll do a big band night next week and Constantine will be stuck trying to sing 'Night and Day' and one of his eyes will have a spasm

Bye bye Connie

[A Pathetic Writer]

Preliminary estimate is Federov, Scott, and Anwar in the bottom 3, with Scott going home.

[Salazkin]

As much as it pains me, I think I'd agree with Dave. ;) Except I can't help but wonder what the heck is up with the low voting for Bo. It's not like he's going to turn it around by virtue of gaining Nadia's market share. Obviously, the other, and more important variable, is his performance next week. But he's going to have to pick it up a bit. I almost wonder if he really doesn't care that much about winning, and certainly not enough that he's going to succumb to the popularity-contest mentality of the show.

BTW, :lol @ Pen.

[Geevie]

If Scott can suck that badly and STILL get more votes that fan favorite Bo, I seriously doubt he'll leave next week. He should go, but I bet he won't.

Just depends on who is the most ho-hum next Tuesday.

[anomalies]

One week I really, really was impressed by Bo's performance - it was flawless, but since then, I haven't been as impressed. A winner should be good each week. Remember the first American Idol winner, Kelly Clarkson? She was good at first, but got better each week and was never at the bottom, despite the stacked votes her competition (who svcked) got.

[Stupendous Hack]

Hmm...Geevie, I'm intrigued by the Constantine singing INXS suggestion.

However, given his vocal ability and stage "presence," I'd like to see him sing either "What You Need" or "Never Tear Us Apart."

Either one of those would send him over the top.

[Mike Samonek]

Apparently that show starts later this year.

[writerly]

yeah, constantine and INXS - great idea... (as is Bo - Eli's Coming)...
Big band? That should be interesting. Me love the swing and Sinatra.

[billythrilly7]

yeah, constantine and INXS - great idea

Yeah, great idea unless you happen to be an INXS fan.

Then it becomes an idea that might result in you putting a bullet through the back of your skull. For the real rabid fan. Not your average fan. Your average INXS fan would probably decide to go on with their life.

I think everyone has lost their minds.

A guy posts on a message board with relatively sane people for years and then they all go nuts. It's like a Twilight Zone episode.

[Pen Dragon]

So it was disco night and bo sings a rock tune.

Is it just me or is the show giving him an easy ride?

Not that I don't dig his beat or anything

[writerly]

Then it becomes an idea that might result in you putting a bullet through the back of your skull. For the real rabid fan. Not your average fan. Your average INXS fan would probably decide to go on with their life.

I think everyone has lost their minds.

A guy posts on a message board with relatively sane people for years and then they all go nuts. It's like a Twilight Zone episode.

:rollin :rollin :rollin
too funny, seriously dude, too funny!
I'm just really digging constantine. vegas or no vegas, baby, it works for me!!!

they're all good, but scott's gotta go. Federov too but he's kinda cute.
i missed the last 2 weeks when bo was 'off', it was a rock song tonight and he seemed back on but not as much as Constantine. ok, enough, I'm done.

[Salazkin]

Constantine - wearing mascara :rolleyes good on theatrics, poor vocals (as usual)
Carrie - big hair has gotta go; great vocals; too stiff/no theatrics
Scott - good vocals (you all seem to be biased by his girth)
Anthony - good theatrics, adequate vocals (though I don't care for his voice)
Vonselle - stand out performance; she's the bomb!
Anwar - very good vocals, though he lacks something, let's call it novelty
Bo - adequate vocals, decent theatrics; nothing special (in spite of what the judges proclaimed)

Vonselle's the real deal

[Geevie]

Constantine in eyeliner. My undoing.

The thing I like about Constantine is how much of a musical chameleon he is. No matter if it's musicals night/disco/rock - he seems to roll with the punches with relative ease. I dig that - I'm almost up for a Country night just to see if he can pull it off.

Bo was back tonight. It was probably a dance song back in the day but out of his mouth it was a rock tune. I'm okay with that. And I'm totally diggin that stubbly look.

Mercy.

Scott has to go. Period. Bottom line. I've never been so uninspired by a sweeping, fun, make you move song like Everlasting Love. But, Simon had a point. He's the everyguy. People root for the everyguy. I'd root for him too except that I just feel nothing when he performs. He's just wooden. It's like he's removed from the music. If HE is removed from the music, it's quite impossible for me to be moved watching him.

I do believe (don't hurt me Deek) that Vonzell out-Idols Carrie. She may not sing *as* well, but she's got personality to spare. Carrie is just... well, there. She's pleasant to look at and does have great pipes but she's just a blank canvas most of the time. She had more verve on the dance reel where she was fooling around than she does on stage. And aside from that note at the end, I personally hated the song she sang - you couldn't tell the words at one point and she just seemed to flounder. I was cringing for her through most of it.

But then again the song totally sucks too, so. Of all the songs she coulda sung... Jeez.

Bottom three, wow. For me it was Scott, Carrie and maybe even possibly Anwar. (I love him, but he's pleasant - he has yet to rock it through the roof and prove his "Idol" status)

[Pen Dragon]

Anwar, Carrie and Scott were my bottom 3 tonight. Vonzell barely scraped by. I hate that song and it looked like she got first dibs on Nadia's wardrobe.

I'm feeling Anwar is gone next. Sounded like he was singing through his nostrils tonight, and what was that prancing around around he was doing. Anwar's time to go

[billythrilly7]

The prancing, Pen...

Well, Anwar obviously plays for another team. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I have close friends who also enjoy playing on the other team. And they have a good team. That's fine. I'm just saying.

I think Anwar is great.
Bo was awesome.
Almost killed myself during Constantine.
Everlasting Love is an awesome song, so I enjoyed the song. Nuff said.
Federov was okay, which is better than his normal sucking.
Vonzell is a bore.
Carrie is my love.

Carrie and Bo should be in the finals and for once I'd be able to give the "Good Thrilly Seal of Approval" to an American Idol winner.

[anomalies]

My opinion on all the performances tonight (which I did see and hear):

Constantine - He looks good in eyeliner! :rollin He did an adequate job but he's not good enough to sustain a long career
Carrie - she has power, she is pretty,but she often has pitch problems - that's a big no-no
Scott - although he seemed to sing well, during the recap it was obvious to me that his vocals are uninspired and jut not good enough, plus there are his looks - his face more than his body - ugh
Anthony - he did okay for him, but he's just not good enough
Vonselle - she did well, but I think she's trying too hard
Anwar - his phoniness comes through, every time. don't like him
Bo - he did a great job tonight

Hi Salazkin! 0]

[writerly]

okay, I know I said enough but I can't help it, I've got to defend constantine. what's wrong with a little eyeliner? I mean, since when do rockers/musicians/performers NOT where eyeliner!? Huh? if you ask me, we need to bring back MORE eyeliner.
(remember Prince back in the day? hell - he even wore garters!)

[A Pathetic Writer]

Tonight's score:

1. Constantine. Another KNOCKOUT performance
2. Anwar. GREAT
3. Federov. He sounds more and more like Clay every week
4. Fonzette. Begrudingingly.
5. Bo. Did ok.
6. Scott. He's got skillz, but he's no top 5.
7. Carrie. Good frikkin GOD she sucked so bad tonight.


Who will be in the bottom 3 tomorrow?
Scott, Bo, Carrie

[PurpleCurtain]

APW, you're insane.

Anwar will not only be bottom three, he's on his way back to wherever it is he's from.

Savol is evil, but he was good tonight. I'm not happy about it, either, but there it is.

Bo was awesome tonight.

I agree on Carrie. Definitely bottom three. I think Constantine might finally end up there, too, thanks to a seriously crapola song choice. But he looked good, and if I were 13 that would have been good enough for me.

Then again, my favorite last week was Nadia, so clearly I couldn't be less in tune with what America wants. And look at the state of this country! ;)

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Constantine blows. Once this pretender is gone we can get down to real business.










Of course, he'll outlast Scott, Anthony and maybe even Anwar and Carrie, simply because all the chicks want to bang him.

[Camera Obscura]

You guys are crazy if you think Carrie is in the bottom 3 tomorrow night. America loves this girl way too much.

[billythrilly7]

Young girls and their ridiculousness are continuously ruining this planet and all of pop culture and Constantine's hideous existence is exhibit A.

When I become emperor of the world, I will decree that all girls ages 7-18 will be banned from watching T.V., buying records, going to the movies and having money. They will be raised in dungeons, listening to U2, Bruce Springsteen, Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones.

And they will learn. And that will be very good.

Or maybe not. I'll see how it goes. I don't know if I can find all that dungeon space. We'll see.

Constantine....

http://www.therebelinvaders.dk/Discography%20Psyched%20Up%20Janis/I_Think_You_Suck_promo.jpg

[Geevie]

I said she's in my bottom three, not that she would be in the bottom three.

She should be, but like you said. They love her.

Damn her Barbie smile and ALL IT STANDS FOR.

:b

[A Pathetic Writer]

Wants to live in Billy's world, where 18 year olds are kept in dungeons!

:evil

[Stupendous Hack]

Carrie's really hot, has a great voice but...damn...what's with the hair?

When they show clips of her NOT performing, her hair is always normal and looks decent.

But, once she gets out on stage, she has a crap-ton of extensions in it to INTENTIONALLY make it all teased and curled and Dolly Parton country looking.

What the heck for?

It looks horrible!

Anyway, I just don't find the country hair hot. The sleek-haired Carrie is the sexier one. She's been in Oklahoma waaaaaaay too long if she thinks that her hair being that way is hot or looks good.

Scott sucks. I think it's either him or Anwar tomorrow. Federov is still a pretender in my book. He's been too lucky so far.

Scott doesn't have it. And, sorry Sal, but his weight has a lot to do with it. But, even if he were skinny, he still looks like he got kicked in the face from a missed NFL punt.

He's ugly and doughy and everytime I see him on stage, I keep expecting four guys in proton packs to jump out and start blasting him.

Sorry, but this is American IDOL. They're looking for superficial fluff these days, not just a voice. Scott doesn't have the best voice and he sure doesn't have the superficial fluff. He just ain't got the "it" needed to be an "idol."

Anwar has a good voice, but he's not very versatile. His performance tonight was unenthusiastic and soporific.

Bo still, to me, sounds like he has peanut butter stuck in his throat whenever he sings.

Vonzell is still hot.

However, I think the bottom 3 tomorrow will be Anwar, Scott, and either Federov or Vonzell (probably Vonzell, even though it should be Federov).

I think it'll either be Scott or Anwar going home.

Probably Scott.

[Pen Dragon]

Billy doesn't listen to any music recorded before 1970 either?

[Rose]

Writerly, Some men can "work" make-up and extra theatrical accessories on stage. Little Richard, David Bowie, Elton John, Prince and Boy George. But Constantine's mascara reminded me of the thugs in Clock Work Orange. I'm sorry, Constantine is just creepy. You don't wear mascara and act like Keith from the Partridge Family. Mascara needs a man with more ATTITUDE.

[anomalies]

lol @ Rose. Yeah I agree with you about Constantine being creepy. However, I think the mascara and eyeliner do bring out his creepy eyes, don't you?

Actually, EVERYONE should start wearing eyeliner and mascara, even little babies!!

VIA LA REVOLUTION!! :p

[Salazkin]

And, sorry Sal, but his weight has a lot to do with it. I agree, SHack. In fact I said so last week - that he's got to go, just because of his look or lack thereof. I was only suggesting that maybe others disliked his appearance so much it compromised their objectivity with regard to his voice. But yes, either way, he's got to go. He's ugly and doughy and everytime I see him on stage, I keep expecting four guys in proton packs to jump out and start blasting him.:rollin

[billythrilly7]

Billy doesn't listen to any music recorded before 1970 either?

Nothing before 1955.(maybe like five songs pre-56)

"Before Elvis, there was nothing."
John Lennon

[JesseNC]

Carrie was my pick to win the whole thing before I ever even heard her sing in the auditions. Looked over to my girlfriend and said, "She's going to Hollywood and she's gonna win."

When I saw Scott in the auditions, I said "Wow, should I cover my ears now?" and when he started to sing, we both said "Holy @#%$!"

I think that we're basing these singing competitions on looks far too much, myself included. So much so that they may be biasing our opinions on voice. I realized that about three weeks ago and I've started listening to the show rather than watching it.

Carrie is like a deer stuck in headlights and it's starting to creep its way into her performances. I think she's starting to crumble under the pressure and I hope she can get it back together because she really does have the best voice.

Vonzelle is somewhere out of right field. Where did this charismatic, beautiful siren come from? The first thing I remember of Vonzelle is her getting on the wrong bus in Hollywood and almost blowing her career.

Scott's got a damn good voice when he uses it. He may be bottom three this week but he's not going home.

Anwar's voice is dull for the most part. He's not fake, he's just really really gay. He's going home tonight not because he's gay, but because his voice is starting to suck more and more every week and his smile is starting to matter less and less.

Anthony was fake from day 1 and it might have actually worked if he just went with the aw shucks Aiken thing but he'll be gone soon. His voice can be good, but everything before the last two weeks has me voting him away. People who act like they're cuter than they are drive me up the wall.

Constantine sings decently, definitely not the best. He's creepy as @#%$, sings in monotone a lot, and should have stuck to rock. I don't care if you're an actor or versatile, stick to something you look halfway appropriate doing.

Bo is the only real person in this year's competition. Just down to his core, he is as real as you'll ever see in Hollywood. He gets my vote every week because of that and that alone. He turns Disco into rock, he turns show tunes into rock, he doesn't get away from his roots. Last but not least, he doesn't care if you think he sucks.

[billythrilly7]

I think that we're basing these singing competitions on looks far too much, myself included. So much so that they may be biasing our opinions on voice. I realized that about three weeks ago and I've started listening to the show rather than watching it.


I think looks should be, have to be, always have been and always will be an important part of music and entertainment as a whole. It's American Idol, not America's Best Singer.

If Elvis had Scott's body and face he'd still driving a truck somewhere in Tupelo.

The music industry is a business. May the best talent/charisma/looks package win.

It's not a bad thing. It's human nature.

But if you have an amazing, amazing voice it won't matter how you look. Scott doesn't have that voice.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Shoulda seen the looks on the faces of my Dad and Mom,
When I showed up at the door with a date for the senior prom.
They said: "Well, pardon us son, she ain't no kid.
"That's a cocktail waitress in a Dolly Parton wig.
I said: "I know it dad, ain't she cool, that's the kind I dig."

-- Confederate Railroad "Trashy Women."


Carrie's got Trailertrashitis in a bad way.

[PurpleCurtain]

Vonzelle is somewhere out of right field. Where did this charismatic, beautiful siren come from? The first thing I remember of Vonzelle is her getting on the wrong bus in Hollywood and almost blowing her career.

Dude, that wasn't Vonzelle. That was another woman (who was also thin and had long hair), and that idiot ended up getting culled before the final 24. She was the one who threw a massive hissy fit in the green room after the judges canned her, and Ryan had to escort her outside.

[Camera Obscura]

Yeah, man. That wasn't Vonzelle. Not all black people look the same.

[Geevie]

Appearances do and don't matter, depending on your gender. They would matter more for the girls than the guys. I think, I'm not sure but I *think* that might have played a part in why Scott was chosen and that heavy girl with the frizzy hair was sent home before the semi-finals. She had pipes too, but the look was wrong. I assume the judges figured America would be more forgiving for Scott.

There are a lot of ugleeeeee male singers who fight off groupies and end up marrying beautiful women, sometimes more than once (Steve Tyler, Mick Jagger, Billy Joel, Rod Stewart, Bruce Springstein instantly spring to mind).

The one thing that Steve Tyler, Mick Jagger, Billy Joel and Rod Stewart have that Mr. Savol is sadly lacking is personality. If he would get out there with anything other than a scowl on his face and actually connect with people, the song, or whatever instead of that mock ghetto facade that plays too cool for school - he might actually have a shot at being an Idol. Even *I* rooted for him when I heard him say his dad told him he couldn't do it in the audition. Then he sang and it was like, damn... daddy was wrong.

Thus began his hero's journey. For the role he decided to play, his look was perfect.

[billythrilly7]

Steve Tyler, Mick Jagger, Billy Joel, Rod Stewart, Bruce Springstein

They all have bucket loads of talent.

Scott. Not.

[anomalies]

Rod Stewart is cute. The rest in Geevie's list - not. They all are talented, though, and as Billy says, Scott just doesn't have the real talent. He sings (for the most part) on key, but there is NO power and no oomph to his vocals. They are lackluster. Did Simon say karaoke? I agree. Plus, ugh, not cute at all.

Carrie, unfortunately, has no sense of style. She is very old fashioned and she needs to get with it. She should look at Faith Hill, not Loretta Lynne when it comes to fashion and hair. I mean, Faith Hill is still older than she is, but she actually dresses younger than Carrie does. Fellas, it might have something to do with reincarnation. She is holding onto a past life in which she was a country woman of 50 or so when she died. She just can't let go! That must be it! >D

Who thinks Ryan Seacrest is as cute as a button? Me neither. :b

[Stupendous Hack]

She only dresses all stupid like that when she's on stage. When she's not singing, she looks relatively normal (total hotness aside) with normal hair and clothes.

She apparently just has some really bad people who've advised her in her life and made her believe that the Grand Ole Opry look is "in."






Hint: It's not.

[Salazkin]

There are a lot of ugleeeeee male singers... With shitloads of dough. ... who fight off groupies and end up marrying beautiful women, sometimes more than once (Steve Tyler, Mick Jagger, Billy Joel, Rod Stewart, Bruce Springstein instantly spring to mind).Can we all say Golddiggers?

[anomalies]

I've seen her, but I disagree that someone is making her dress that way. Constantine puts his entire program together himself. I think she is doing the same. She is picking what she wears and how she acts and looks. I think this because of all the comments the judges give. They compliment when they think they dress right, etc. See what I'm sayin'?

[Stupendous Hack]

I've seen her, but I disagree that someone is making her dress that way.
I didn't say nor suggest that anyone was.
She is picking what she wears and how she acts and looks.
Agreed. Which is pretty much what I said. I merely stated that she has no doubt been influenced by her hick upbringing and environment to believe that what she picks actually looks good.

[Salazkin]

We don't care for Carrie's style because we're all hipsters and style mavens. But maybe because of that wholesome, bible-belt look she's managed to carve out the largest niche of all the participants. It could make sense for two reasons: (1) like it or not, there probably is a sizable share of the population that finds in her a refreshing wholesomeness in the wake of the black-leather Janet Jackson breast exposition, and (2) she has no competition in the fashion arena because none of the other contestants would be caught dead in those getups. Just a guess.

[Stupendous Hack]

she has no competition in the fashion arena because none of the other contestants would be caught dead in those getups.
:lol

Maybe.

[Loaded 4 Bear]

I'd be curious if anyone knows how many times each of the remaining contestants has been in the bottom three to date. I'm guessing:

Zero for Constantine
One each for Bo, Vonselle, and Carrie
Twice for Anthony
Three times each for Anwar and Scott

But that's just a wild-ass guess.

[Camera Obscura]

I don't remember Carrie ever being in the bottom 3.

[anomalies]

Stup - you said:

She apparently just has some really bad people who've advised her in her life and made her believe that the Grand Ole Opry look is "in."
which made me think you thought that she was being coached. But you did say "in life."

I am sticking to my reincarnation theory. >D

[Furious Anjel]

Dude, that wasn't Vonzelle. That was another woman (who was also thin and had long hair), and that idiot ended up getting culled before the final 24. She was the one who threw a massive hissy fit in the green room after the judges canned her, and Ryan had to escort her outside.

Now you're the one who's confused. The girl who had the tantrum isn't the same one who got on the wrong bus. I could never forget a name like Shunta (wrong bus), tantrum girl was Faith.

[writerly]

"Mascara needs a man with more ATTITUDE."
sorry to go back to this whole eye makeup thing... you're definitely right that nobody did it better than Prince (or Bowie) but creepy? I don't see it AT ALL. This is worrying me. Am I blind? Maybe - he tries too hard, but if you think Constantine is creepy... he seems quite easy to read to me. dare i say, maybe even perhaps a bit fluff, a bit lightweight...
now Savol - that's a different story. that guy IS creeps all around.




{ps - can someone tell me/explain how to stay logged in? driving me batty}

[Loaded 4 Bear]

See ya Anwar.

Now, Constantine, Scott, Anthony need to go.

Leaving the final 3: Vonselle, Carrie, Bo.

[Pen Dragon]

i had it pegged all the way baby. didn't even need to read the form

[billythrilly7]

Exactly, Loaded.

I just think it's a travesty that Anwar left before Federov and SCOTT.

Let's go Bo!

[roscoegino]

Votes are votes, but the real question is who would sell the most records.

[Geevie]

Who were the bottom three?

I missed the show.

[Stupendous Hack]

Man, I kinda nailed it.

Well...kinda. Not that it was too tough considering how few contestants are left.

Bottom three were: Anwar, Scott, and Federov.

I said the bottom three would be Anwar, Scott, and Federov (or Vonzelle). I said the third might be Vonzelle, not because I thought she deserved it, but because the AI voters are stupid.

I thought that it'd be Scott to go rather than Anwar, but I was wrong.

That's where the stupidity of the AI voters came in.

So, I knew it would happen, I just miscalculated when.

Top three in the end will be Carrie, Bo, and Constantine.

[Geevie]

Thanks.

I agree with your top three.

[PurpleCurtain]

Furious Anjel:

Thanks for setting me straight. I would have sworn the transportationally challenged woman and the hissy-fit woman were the same...good thing I didn't bet on that. :)

And did I call Anwar as the one to go home or what? Sometimes America is beautiful, man. Well done, fellow citizens!

That said, I was stunned Carrie wasn't bottom three, especially when I thought Savol and Federov were not only as strong as they've been in the competition, they both kicked butt relative to Carrie and Constantine, who were totally coasting on Tuesday.

[Rose]

Writerly, My definition of Constantine being creepy is that he can't hide the fact that he's in love with himself. He thinks he's da bomb! Yuck.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Well, my first off week. Sayonara, Anwar. The competition has lost its most vocally talented performer.

[Geevie]

My definition of Constantine being creepy is that he can't hide the fact that he's in love with himself. He thinks he's da bomb!

I have a friend who has a saying: "I'm not conceited. I'm convinced."

What you see as vanity, I see as confidence.

Has the direct opposite effect of creepiness - in my case at least. :b

I'm with ya, writerly.

[writerly]

exactly G!
me agree. Sometimes I don't think people realize how hard it is to get up and sing on national television. I think a big part of C's charm, is that you can actually see his nerves, his voice wobbles at times, he's NOT smooth and polished, he's just working it. Like I said -- works for me!!! ;)

[Loaded 4 Bear]

I suppose the "chicks going ga ga" factor is one that simply can't be ignored in pursuit of an American Idol. :rolleyes

[jkk808]

Well, my first off week

It won't be your last ape.

You should take a break from poker to get your ears checked if you think Anwar was the most vocally talented. :p

Let the purging of Savol and Federov begin!!!!

[anomalies]

Anwar did provide much of the same-ole, and I think he knew he was not going to be THE idol. Bye-bye.

Next to go? Scott Savol or Federov.

[A Pathetic Writer]

Savol has outlasted 4 chicks. He's done his purpose toward proving the guys were better than the girls this year. I can let him go with no regrets. But get ready to lose Carrie or Fonzie in one of the next 2 weeks.

[Stupendous Hack]

Dude, you've totally lost it...again.

Next week will be Scott.

Then Federov.

Then Vonzelle.

Then Carrie.

Then Bo.

[Salazkin]

Okay. So SHack picks Constantine.

Let's get down to brass tacks. Who do you all pick to win?

I pick Vonzelle.

[Stupendous Hack]

Lemme just be clear.

I don't want Constantine to win.

I think he's a douchebag.

But, he seems to have the crowd won over more than anyone else, and it doesn't seem like he'll let that up.

Plus, a large number of the voters are idiotic, pre-teen girls who, like thirsty dogs, lap up his creepy, pasty, unshaven, so-untanned-he's-translucent, Lt. Dan-ness and will no doubt vote him over Carrie or even-uglier-than-Constantine Bo Bice.

American Idol hasn't really been about pure talent since season one, when Kelly Clarkson won. I still think she has the best voice (except for Clay) out of any of the winners.

It's more about temporary appeal. Look at the past two winners. Ruben was OK, at best. Better than everyone except Clay. I'm not a big fan of Gay Fakin', but his voice has much more range, depth, power and versatility than Ruben could ever hope for. He's just a much better singer. He's also the most popular and successful Idol product thus far; and he didn't even win. Ruben was a one-trick pony, and that has been shown in his dismal record sales and lack of being able to find his place in the music industry.

The girl from last year, I don't even remember her name. Her teeth were awful. Her voice is shrill and irritating. However, most people last year really sucked. She won on the power of one good performance of one OK song. So, as you see, American Idol is no longer about singing talent.

I want Carrie to win, simply because she's hot and I want to see her dress skimpy and sexy in videos and magazine covers. Same for Vonzelle, but she's not as hot as Carrie. And, her voice isn't as pure. She does have more personality, though. But, that's not hard when compared with Carrie.

I actually think Bo would probably make the best album if he gets a deal out of this.

I just think Constantine's showing-little-girls-his-van-in-the-parking-lot-of-an-N'Sync-concert creepiness will be enough to get him all the preteen votes needed to win.

My opinion could change, however, based on the performances of the next few weeks.

[Rose]

Geevie and Writerly, you've made some good points on Constantine's behalf. I've mellowed about him. Sipping a mint julep makes me very democratic about things.

As we are in the final leg of the idol race i agree with Salazkin, pipes and personality Vonzelle by a nose!

[billythrilly7]

Vonzelle aint winning nada.

Her days are numbered.

Bo, Carrie, Constantine in the finals.

And I can only pray that Constantine goes back to sucking on a complete and total level. Now, he just sucks, but he's putting on a "good show." When he first started he sucked and he sucked and he sucked. From voice to song to show. I think he's a choker. He's gonna gack it up soon.

Or...just to piss me off, he ends up winning the entire thing. Yeah, that's probably what will happen.

I don't think the teen girl vote is as big as we think. People of all ages watch this thing and vote. Ruben Stoddard won the damn thing. I wouldn't think teenage girls would have voted for him all that much.

Great performances are vital at this point of the competition.

I'm disgusted that I even watch this show and take time out of my Thrilly life to post about it. I feel dirty. Where did it all go wrong?

[Camera Obscura]

Carrie has to win. I don't want my effort voting for her hundreds of time being wasted.

[Salazkin]

Billy: you're supposed pick who'll win. Not say who won't win. Not say who's gonna make the top 3. That's easy stuff. Let's try something challenging - pick a winner. :smokin


Yes, CO: Carrie is my second pick (for voice she's number one, but Vonzelle has her beat pretty handily on personality and rhythm, IMO).

[billythrilly7]

http://i.esmas.com/image/0/000/003/421/Spacek_N.jpg

[Salazkin]

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-033.gif Billy!!



Edited to add: Billy's subsequent replacement of text with the above pic rendered my comment obsolete.

[billythrilly7]

Well, the short post didn't last long. But at least you saw it for a brief moment.

You know I love my images.
:D

[billythrilly7]

If Constantine wins...

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[A Pathetic Writer]

This contest is Constantine's to win. I would imagine, since the show's totally rigged anyway, that our finalists will be Constantine and Fonzette. With CO taking it home in the name of parity (girl wins, guy wins. girl wins, guy wins) of sex, and parity of color (whitey wins, darky wins. darky wins, whitey wins).

[billythrilly7]

Vonzell....

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-015.gif

[Salazkin]

parity of color (whitey wins, darky wins. darky wins, whitey wins).Dave: you are so BC (bigotedly correct) it's hilarious. :lol

[billythrilly7]

that our finalists will be Constantine and Fonzette.

No way these two are in and Bo and Carrie are out. Carrie and Bo BOTH have the RED STATE VOTE.

It just occurred to me. It's a blue state/red state battle again.

Constantine the NY'er and Vonzelle are the blue state'rs versus Bo and Carrie, the red state'rs.

And we all know how that should, has and will turn out.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/grinser/grinning-smiley-003.gif

[Stupendous Hack]

That reminds me of a time at work once. This table of about 15 little girls came in to eat. Most of them were black. The waitress who had them looked at them and said, "Aw, look. Brownies!"

I looked at her, slightly horrified, thinking at first she was making crude comment.

Then, I realized they were all wearing Brownie uniforms (the Cub Scouts of Girl Scouts).

[Rose]

Constantine won't win. Vonselle will. Carrie could have. Bo would have, in the 70's. I love Bo, but this generation of X, are we still in X?, doesn't appreciate a genuine rock n' roll kind of guy.

[billythrilly7]

You guys are all nuts with this Vonzelle thing!!!!

Nobody likes her and I know almost everybody.

She's a bore. Fantasia had some swagger and some style. Vonzelle is a back up singer.

[Pen Dragon]

Carrie, if she weren't Redneck America's great white hope, would have been gone 3 weeks ago. She's just a thoughtless deer caught in a spotlight. When was the last time she didn't tell the world she'd never heard the song she's about to sing then, if she doesn't forget the words, stumbles around the stage like a terror stricken zombie in a blindfold.
She can sing yes, but who the @#%$ is she from week to week.
Tammy Wynette circa 1973 one week, Britanny Spears the next, Barbie the next. She's awful really. She would have done well on Nashville Star but she's clueless here and in over her head. I've lost patience with her. Carrie needs to go next

[Stupendous Hack]

There was this episode of Conan O'Brien a few weeks ago where he did his "New State Quarters" sketch. It's where he shows these fake state quarters with silly pictures on the backs.

Anyway, on this one he did Oklahoma (Carrie's home state). The slogan on the quarter was, "Oklahoma, even our state has a mullet." The pic of the state had a redneck's face and the panhandle of the state was made to look like a mullet.

Pretty funny.

Okay...back to your regularly scheduled thread topic...

[writerly]

I'm disgusted that I even watch this show and take time out of my Thrilly life to post about it. I feel dirty. Where did it all go wrong?
:lol
all's not lost; at least your posts are highly entertaining.
(I was hoping for a racy Prince image from back in the day...)


Predictions? ohmygod. like, that's what this is about?
um, Constantine, Bo, Carrie. RedState thing - brilliant point and she'll probably win, she's got the pipes, but let's face it, she hasn't exactly had a knockout/breakout performance despite the 'leaving her cake out in the rain' number, which was pretty good. Even though he's not my thing, I can appreciate Bo. I think my man C is going to win.

ahh, mint julep, beer, a pinot gris, a tumble in the sheets, good chinese takeout, the fact that it stopped raining and is now summer in LA... it's all good.

[billythrilly7]

Thanks, writerly. If writing doesn't work out, you should go into counseling. I feel less dirty because of you and realize "it's not my fault, it's not my fault."

Thank you.

ahh, mint julep, beer, a pinot gris, a tumble in the sheets, good chinese takeout, the fact that it stopped raining and is now summer in LA... it's all good.

Is my search over? Have I found LadyThrilly?

[writerly]

ah, it all depends if you perform and wear eyeliner, gets me every time.
;)
and um, that would be onstage in front of millions...
(now if i could just get my man to get up there...)
but your posts, rock...

btw, who thinks Seacrest deserves a Star? true, he never makes mistakes, but that got the cheesy/lame meter running, imho.

[billythrilly7]

You ARE LadyThrilly...I just started a "Seacrest gets a star and that makes me cry" thread in One on One."

Will, I'm going to need you to get your "able to marry people" license. Whatever that's called.
:D

[Salazkin]

Billy: buy writerly an ezsupporter subscription.

[billythrilly7]

Who am I, Don Rickles? I don't have that kind of money.

Besides, I think she hinted that she has a boyfriend. You almost got called on for best man duties, Sal.
:D

Okay..back on topic...

Vonzell, you're a snoozefest.

[billythrilly7]

God will never give you more than you can handle..

FINALLY a ray of light in the "Constantine sucks" world.

The hump has an album coming out with his band May 10th, barring lawsuits or whatever. As soon as this stinking piece of crap comes out and the critics destroy it, god willing, he will be revealed as a false prophet and will lose all of the luster that some insane people see him having.

There is no link..so, trust me...
Constantine's Band to Release an Album May 10
The 'American Idol' Singer Recorded the CD Before Becoming a Finalist
By Gary Susman, Entertainment Weekly

Maroulis' band, Pray for the Soul of Betty, has signed to Koch Records, the same label as William Hung.

You may recall seeing Constantine Maroulis' bandmates in hard rock quartet Pray for the Soul of Betty wince at his auditioning for American Idol (imagine the eye-rolling after his disco performance this week), but his Idol-bred fame has apparently landed the band a record deal.

Whether or not Maroulis is still a finalist on May 10, he'll already have a CD in stores. That's the release date for the band's self-titled debut CD, Koch Records announced Thursday.

"Pray For the Soul of Betty is one of the best rock bands I've heard in years," said Alan Grunblatt, general manager and executive vice president of Koch Records, in a statement. "Considering how popular Constantine Maroulis is, we should go gold for sure!" Koch is the same label that capitalized on Idol by releasing two albums byIdol reject William Hung and one by first-season finalist Jim Verraros.

It's not clear whether the Koch deal conflicts with the notoriously restrictive management contract that Idol contestants must sign, but the label says the album was recorded in 2003 and 2004, before Betty's frontman auditioned for the TV talent contest.
1978: Clad in Shades and Suits, Two Funnymen Raise the Roof on 'SNL'

The label cites as the band's influences such hard rockers as Led Zeppelin, Soundgarden, and Queens of the Stone Age. Given Maroulis' recent rendition of "Bohemian Rhapsody," he certainly has the Queen element down pat.

[writerly]

Maroulis' band, Pray for the Soul of Betty, has signed to Koch Records, the same label as William Hung.

yeah, that sucks.
maybe he'll overcome it, don't know... you know Carrie's going to win anyway, because America loves her sweethearts.
;)

[Stupendous Hack]

It's times like these that I miss the Prince of the 80s.

Oh, how I wish he were still around so he could take young, sweet, nubile Carrie and turn her into a dirty, sweaty, sexy vixen like he did Sheena Easton.

[roscoegino]

AI is made for Carrie, and Carrie for it. Both Constantine and Bo would be better off if they didn't win.

[anomalies]

Bo is going to win. Right now, he is pulling in the most votes and the winner is picked by public voting, right? Ummm, maybe not. Everything seems to be fixed these days, doesn't it? Even though we are told this is a free country...

OFF TOPIC!

Bo isn't as consistent as I would like, but I see him as the winner.

Personally, I thought Mario was going to win, but... Oh, well!

Constantine's band signed a record deal!!!

And, should Constantine win? http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/swear.gif

[Stupendous Hack]

How do you know he's pulling in the most votes?

Have they released that information somewhere?

Just because he was picked last in the groups the other night doesn't mean he got the most votes.

[anomalies]

Hi stup. Someone on one of those entertainment shows announced that Bo was on top a couple of weeks ago - by a VERY wide margin - he got something like 38% of the entire vote, when there were more contestants, that's why I speculate as I did. I guess there could be a surprise, but I kinda doubt it.

[Stupendous Hack]

So...he got the top number of votes a couple of weeks ago, and you think that's still relevant now?

[writerly]

It's times like these that I miss the Prince of the 80s.
me too!

That might not be that far off about Bo. On AOL, you vote and he's like 39%, Carrie's about 31% and Constantine is around 11-18% I believe... (not that it matters, I'm just saying...)

As billy7 said, he and Carrie are so Red-State, but between those two, I'd rather see good ole Bo win...


edited for typos

[anomalies]

Hi, stup. Yeah, actually. He was number one for a few weeks in a row.

[Stupendous Hack]

I mean, do you honestly think that statistically his "wide margin" is still as wide several weeks later?

You have no evidence with which to back that up.

Only "guesses" and "opinions" formed from information you heard second hand several weeks ago.

That's all I'm saying.

[anomalies]

Hi, again, Stup. Actually, I think AI is fixed. AND, I think it will come down to Bo and Constantine, with Bo winning.

[Camera Obscura]

What evidence do you have that American Idol if fixed?

[anomalies]

It's a feeling I have. Besides, I think Clay Aiken said it was. As an "insider" I think he might be right.

[Camera Obscura]

It makes no sense for the show to be fixed. The real money comes from the show itself (commercial spots) and not from record profits from the winners (which is minimal at best). The show doesn't benefit from fixing a winner. Why would the show risk the potential exposure of such a major cover-up and the lost of credibility -- when they can simply do what they have been doing -- open up phone lines and let America vote?

Please provide a link to where Clay Aiken said the show is fixed. Such a damning statement from a former runner-up must be documented somewhere, right? Because oddly enough, I found an interview with Aiken, "the insider", where he says to the contrary, debunking the claim that AI is fixed. See link below...

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but you gotta have a healthy dose of logic and rational thought.
www.livedaily.com/news/5265.html (http://www.livedaily.com/news/5265.html)

[Pen Dragon]

Can we return this thread to what's important please.

Like speculating on Constantine's next song choice?

[Mike Samonek]

It's not "fixed." But it is television and therefore it is manipulated. It's hardly revelatory to say that reality television producers play fast and loose with "reality" to get the end product that makes for the best TV show possible. Are they cheating the votes? No, but they can easily give more camera time and better production values to their personal favorites.

But it's not coincidental that Constantine and Carrie had so much camera time during the try outs. The producers clearly saw them both as good TV and ran with them from day one. One forgotten guy who didn't make an early cut complained that he knew he didn't stand a chance because he didn't get any camera time. He was right.

So fixed is too harsh a term, but I do think "manipluated" is appropriate. This isn't conspiracy theory stuff, just TV 101. :D

[writerly]

oooo, what do you think it will be? I don't know what genre/style it is next week...
you know what would be cool? The Cult. Maybe even Guns 'N Roses. That would be interesting.

[Camera Obscura]

Samonek, of course American Idol is "manipulated." Anything that is edited is manipulated, even documentaries and the nightly news. It's not just TV 101, it's common sense. Everything we watch has been "manipulated" with a few exceptions (i.e. home videos, footage from a static security camera, etc.). So since manipulation is so common, the definition itself has been devalued, hence widening the gap between one media extreme, "manipulation", to the other, "fixed."

[anomalies]

I DID say it was a feeling I have, didn't I? I AM allowed to have feelings, n'est pa? Stop spoiling my fun! >D

FIXED, FIXED, FIXED!!! So there. :rollin

[Camera Obscura]

Of course you're allowed to have feelings. But, like the rest of us, make a statement on a public board and you open yourself to public scrutiny.

[Mike Samonek]

C.O. 1st of all, I wasn't trying to correct or provoke you. I can't tell from your post if you're taking it that way, but it feels like it. (of course this is DD where everyone feels provoked all the time). :)

My point is, I think AI falls somewhere between our definitions of "fixed" (in the traditional sense of rigging votes) and "manipulated" (which I agree is the inevitable byproduct of any edited material.) I think the producers actively favor certain contestants and make them look better and put them on camera more. That's a level of "fixing" as far as I'm concerned.

On something like Survivor or the Apprentice or Amazing Race or PGL, etc which don't use audience participation, the producers manipulating the material to create conflict that doesn't exist or make characters more interesting for the sake of "good TV" doesn't effect the outcome. On AI it does and that makes it somewhat unique and puts it in a gray area all its own. That's all I'm saying.

But you know, that's half the fun of the show. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. And this is just my take on it. We'll all see what happens when ABC runs their big "exposé" during May sweeps.

[Mike Samonek]

Oh yeah. And they don't care who wins. They just need to keep it interesting right up until the very last episode. The winner is irrelevant compared to making the competition interesting and the ratings sky-high.

[Camera Obscura]

Samonek, I did not feel provoked nor did I feel that was your intentions. This is just discourse, my friend.

[writerly]

I don't know why Mike, but I really zoned out during your post.

[Pen Dragon]

One forgotten guy who didn't make an early cut complained that he knew he didn't stand a chance because he didn't get any camera time. He was right

He was also a cheesy performer

[billythrilly7]

...and that's being generous.

[Mike Samonek]

What? A cheesy performer has never made it farther than that on AI? :lol


What's with the "zoned out" comment? What did I do to deserve that?

[billythrilly7]

Oh, so writerly sittin' abso-bloomin'-lutely still?
I would never budge 'till Spring crep over me winder sill.
Someone's head restin' on my knee;
Warm and tender as she can be,

Who takes good care of me;
Oh couldn't it be writerly?

writerly,
writerly,
writerly,

Oh couldn't it be writerly?

[writerly]

ohmygod, that is sooooooooooo sweet, like sooo awesome!

[Pen Dragon]

:rolleyes (<--------- imagine this 50 times bigger)

[billythrilly7]

:lol

ohmygod, that is sooooooooooo sweet, like sooo awesome!


That's the kind of guy I am...

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/engel/angel-smiley-027.gif

[Loaded 4 Bear]

Billy's courtship of Writerly: http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/liebe/love-smiley-078.gif