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UnequalProductions 03-03-2016 11:30 AM

Ghostbusters Trailer
 
I have been a big advocate for this project. I have no problem with the reboot, and I enjoy everyone involved, but...

I didn't like that trailer. I think it relied too much on nostalgia. It seems like much more gag-centric than the original, and there were a couple lines of dialogue that reek of generic executive input.

I'll still go watch it, but my excitement has waned.

ctp 03-03-2016 12:09 PM

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link?

slupo 03-03-2016 01:04 PM

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Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYnSjERs-oU

It's a bad trailer. Not saying it can't be a good movie but that trailer. Ugh.

Ending with an Exorcist joke? Weren't we done with that in the 80's?

I like everyone involved. Hope they cut a better trailer next.

jboffer 03-03-2016 02:23 PM

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Exactly what I expected out of Feig, who has said in the past it's OK that the scripts he films aren't funny, the actors/actresses will make them funny.

Every attempted joke looks like they were just winging it, and that's probably not a coincidence.

karsten 03-03-2016 02:45 PM

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Couldn't pay me to watch this thing.

dave22 03-03-2016 04:43 PM

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I thought this was supposed to be a reboot, not a reshoot.

aocolour 03-03-2016 05:20 PM

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Three brilliant white scientists and a sassy, black friend. I will not be watching.

EdFury 03-03-2016 10:42 PM

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It looks horrible. Everything about it. Train wreck.

FoxHound 03-03-2016 11:23 PM

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It's a Scary Movie-esque spoof, it's not a reboot.

It's strange. The first Ghostbusters -- due to brilliant writing / directing -- had a very authentic vibe despite its absurdity. It made it actually scary / spooky / creepy. But here, it just gives up on any sense of reality and goes full-blown Naked Gun gag flick.

Mintclub 03-04-2016 04:37 AM

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I know it's only a trailer & so it's hard to judge properly until having seen the film but off this it feels flat and a little dull. The fact that the opening scene involved 'sliming' suggests they're devoid of originality here. In fact there was at least two of these very same sequences in a 90 second trailer. What made the original so good and stand the test of time was the chemistry and energy between the four leads. There was a real balance. And I believed the likes of Aykroyd and Ramis could be scientists whereas I'm just not convinced the likes of Kristen Wiig & Kate McKinnon are natural fits in those roles.

It's like when an artist covers a classic song for the sake of it, if you aren't bringing anything fresh to the original then why bother?

TigerFang 03-04-2016 07:23 AM

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As for me, I like the what each of the ladies cast has accomplished individually outside this movie. Although this kind of fare is ordinarily not for me, I'll watch it to see the main cast work together just because they're all good at their craft, despite the movie's limitations placed upon them. Kate McKinnon is one to watch, IMHO. I hope she receives more and better roles in her movie future.

Besides, this Ghostbusters is just one more in a string of mindless movies made for grins and little more. There's a whole generation or two out there for whom it will be new, not a reboot. I'd hope the remaining framework of the original writers' storyline will be strong enough to carry the movie to some success if only to give this all-female lead cast a round of applause.

omjs 03-04-2016 09:56 AM

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I thought it looked cute and fun. Though I agree that the three buttoned-up white scientists with their sassy black friend was a little cringey. Other than that, it seems funny and enjoyable.

I can see not living up to the original (which has the benefit of nostalgia and a longstanding good reputation on its side), but horrible? Not sure how you get that far.

nativeson 03-04-2016 12:12 PM

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I think it'll do well.

thornmane 03-04-2016 04:48 PM

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Here's an IMO much better fan-cut version of the trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IDXpOX0Cp0

Too bad Feig couldn't get something like this out first by himself. I'm not that confident in the movie now.

Yaso 03-05-2016 05:02 AM

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Train wreck is the right expression. This is wrong on so many levels.

This trailer works as a parody, mixed with a few nostalgia moments. The title cards talk about "Four scientists". Winston was just a normal guy though.

The story is a complete rehash, the characters are mere shadows of the original and the pictures are not cinematic. They look like from a TV series pilot.

Pasquali56 03-05-2016 04:56 PM

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Another example of how a studio would rather go with a brand than something original -- and make a big mistake by doing so. Fans of the original have little interest in seeing a remake and the Ghostbusters brand is meaningless to younger moviegoers. So, who really gives a **** other than die-hard SNL fans? And even they might pass on this turd.

evan_g 03-05-2016 05:09 PM

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They made a BRIDESMAIDS sequel already?

RogerOThornhill 03-05-2016 08:43 PM

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It looks like another huge underperformer for Sony. In addition to what's already been said in this thread, can Sony/Columbia/Village Roadshow find a way to market this on anything other than legacy?

Sony's dismal box office last year:

SONY / COLUMBIA
January 1–December 31, 2015

#1–10 RankMovie Title (click to view)StudioGross / TheatersTotal Gross / % of TotalOpen
1 SpectreSony$197,102,5853,929$199,863,71498.6%11/6/15
2 Hotel Transylvania 2Sony$168,471,0183,768$169,700,11099.3%9/25/15
3 GoosebumpsSony$79,132,8683,618$80,080,37998.8%10/16/15
4 PixelsSony$78,747,5853,723$78,747,585100.0%7/24/15
5 Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2Sony$71,038,1903,633$71,038,190100.0%4/17/15
6 War RoomTriS$67,790,1171,945$67,790,117100.0%8/28/15
7 The Wedding RingerSGem$64,460,2113,003$64,460,211100.0%1/16/15
8 The Perfect GuySGem$57,027,4352,230$57,027,435100.0%9/11/15
9 The Night BeforeSony$42,884,8262,960$43,047,37299.6%11/20/15
10 ChappieSony$31,569,2683,201$31,569,268100.0%3/6/15

karsten 03-06-2016 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by evan_g (Post 935101)
They made a BRIDESMAIDS sequel already?

Thread winner.

hscope 03-06-2016 09:39 PM

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I'm not a big fan of the original, but it's nice to see the remake recast with women, even though I don't expect it to be any funnier after seeing the trailer.

Mpimentel 03-07-2016 03:50 PM

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If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

So let me say this...












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Southern_land 03-08-2016 12:31 AM

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Who you going to avoid?
...Ghostbusters!
I aint paying no 12 bucks

Captain Jack Sparrow 03-08-2016 06:36 AM

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Looks very low energy. Sad.

goldmund 03-08-2016 02:33 PM

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I'm very sad after watching the trailer :'-(

I loved the early photos, the girls' setup and gadgets and now we get that piece of slapstick.

It's like there was a cultural apocalypse and an ape found a stunning miracle of pre-apocalypse technology and ran around with it emitting ear-piercing shrieks.

Mpimentel 03-08-2016 02:44 PM

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So. Someone on instagram posted the picture of ghosbuster all female cast/crew where they hold the "girl power" sign up.

http://www.today.com/popculture/meli...wer-set-t40731

Then went ahead and asked... "what if it were an all men crew and cast with a picture that said 'man power'"?

Then he said "why did they need to take an originally male concept to make their point? Why not be creative and make their own then?"

I don't agree or disagree, just wanted to see if anyone had any opinions on it. It made me giggle.

FoxHound 03-08-2016 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpimentel (Post 935264)
So. Someone on instagram posted the picture of ghosbuster all female cast/crew where they hold the "girl power" sign up.

http://www.today.com/popculture/meli...wer-set-t40731

Then went ahead and asked... "what if it were an all men crew and cast with a picture that said 'man power'"?

I don't think giving a film an obvious feminist angle will help it at the Box Office, especially among young male viewers. You're just alienating them.

Besides, it's not as if the original GB's were all men to stick it to women. In fact Sigourney Weaver's strong female character / presence created a great contrast with the all-male GB's. Oddly enough, having Ernie Hudson's character be a woman would've upset that balance.

Vance 03-24-2016 11:18 AM

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The positives here are Kate McKinnon and the ghosts. McKinnon looks like she's having fun and she's a generally fresh character to what looks like an otherwise stale reboot. The ghosts look great, so that's down to how they're used.

The rest of it is a resounding silence, though I'm willing to give Wiig's blandness the benefit of the doubt as just being her character. McCarthy, while very talented, has become a warning sign to me that I'm about to watch something that involves a woman running around screaming before she runs into something. Often this moment makes it into her trailers.

The humor is every gag we've seen in 15 or so years of post-Farrelly comedies, with nothing to really recommend confidence in that aspect, and that's absolutely defining. As for the story, I don't see enough here to judge but have been weary since Feig said they went with a reboot due to not being able to figure out the continuity needs (hey guys, you're professionals, we pay you money to figure out difficult things within your specific craft.)

The only thing that bugs me about the gender flip is how everybody's either praising it or going bugs*it about the feminist agenda it represents... but man, whatever. Gender flips aren't automatically feminist, unless it's really clumsy feminism. That aspect doesn't bother me in either direction.

Something of a shame. I'm past the point where even reboots bother me, as they're not even the new new. They're the old old, and they're as meaningless as any thing you could name. I'd just like them to have some sense of quality.

In the end, I may not see this in the theater and only watch it opportunistically, but I won't outright condemn it.

Crayon 03-24-2016 12:05 PM

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A continuity story could have been fun, with Bill Murray and Sigourney Weaver's daughter taking over the business because the original Ghostbusters are all getting too creaky. And she recruits her old college girl friends, because 'female intuition' is actually useful when busting ghosts.

Vance 03-24-2016 01:49 PM

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That really does sound like the seed of a potentially good idea.

Which means it's a good idea, if that sounds a bit stern.

I think one thing that made the original so good... and really, that makes any high concept comedy good... is that Aykroyd was on the details, and he's really kind of loopy about that kind of thing. The world had a very lived in feel because there was a lot of actual pseudo-science behind it. If you played the game they made for PS3/360, every ghost had a story and classification, and all the extra weapons were redesigned by Aykroyd to fit that in-world science. It was a bit porn-y for Ghostbusters fans, at the end of the day.

So yeah, it would be nice if the Feig crew at least tried to follow through there. I appreciated the McKinnon poster with the custom stickers on her proton pack, but that's a very surface level version of what I'm talking about.

cshel 03-24-2016 03:34 PM

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I ain't afraid of no trailer. (groan) I like everyone involved, so I definitely want to see this. I think it will be, or hope it will be, at the very least, amusing and fun. I won't compare it to the original, I'll just enjoy it for whatever it is.

:jester: :mpopcorn:

Genrelover 03-30-2016 01:30 PM

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It is one of the worst trailers I have seen in a long while. I will still see it, but I'm not expecting much.

FoxHound 07-15-2016 12:12 AM

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Getting good reviews on Rotten Tomatoes -- 75%

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a feminist gimmick :p

UpandComing 07-15-2016 01:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxHound (Post 940501)
Getting good reviews on Rotten Tomatoes -- 75%

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a feminist gimmick :p

I can't believe people are still bitching about this. Really.

In the whole scheme of things, it's a remarkably silly thing to get angry about.

Ivan Reitman had been trying for years to do a Ghostbusters sequel. Bill Murray wasn't interested, which prevented it from happening. In an interview he recently conducted, Reitman says the following:

-- "And then Harold died [in February 2014] before we could get anywhere. That's when I decided, This is just too tough, that I should try to find somebody with another kind of idea. So I focused on changing the deal so that it would be possible to actually make another Ghostbusters movie."

--"My movie, by the way, the one that I was working on before Harold died, had both male and female ghostbusters in it. The first movie [in 1984] was made as it was because we all knew each other and were involved from the conception point. There wasn’t even thought about gender. It was just, "These guys are all funny, we're going to do it." The Ernie Hudson character actually came in a little bit later because we needed a fourth person to explain things for the audience. So that's why all this gender conversation is a little surprising to me."

--"...that it was male-exclusive. I never thought that either! None of us did. Look, we had the original comic books, which were very popular, and there were women ghostbusters in the stories right away. I think it’s just an issue that it was a very beloved film — fortunately for all of us — and people who become fans, particularly at an early age, have an almost-religious belief in what the iconography of a story has to be. It's very strict."

http://www.vulture.com/2016/07/ivan-...murray-qa.html

So as you can see, Paul Feig's all-female take wasn't completely out of left field for the movie's world. In fact, it was an extension of an idea Reitman already had in pursuing a sequel. The original movie was only all-male because Reitman was friends with a bunch of male comics that he thought would be good for the characters. Much the same way Feig was friends with a bunch of female comics that he thought would be good for the characters.

Movie reboots change things all the time in order to provide a fresh angle. This angle happened to be gender.

It might be problematic if it violated some core rules established in the first two movies. But the last time I checked -- there wasn't any law established in either that in order to fight ghosts, you need to have a penis.

If there was, I'd love for you to point it out.

karsten 07-15-2016 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxHound (Post 940501)
Getting good reviews on Rotten Tomatoes -- 75%

Which gives zero indication as to whether a film is good or bad; indeed, less so than ever.

More pertinently, it's at 4.3/10 on IMDb, and while that's not always an ideal measure either, it tends to be much closer to the truth than critics' scores.

UpandComing 07-15-2016 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by karsten (Post 940514)
More pertinently, it's at 4.3/10 on IMDb, and while that's not always an ideal measure either, it tends to be much closer to the truth than critics' scores.

I'm sorry, but that's just laughable. First of all, it's possible to rate a movie on IMDB before it has actually come out, meaning people can weigh in without actually having seen it (so, not accurate at all). Second, there has been a coordinated campaign among the haters of the new Ghostbusters to sink its rating on IMDB
(http://screencrush.com/ghostbusters-imdb-what-the/). It has received over 700 ratings of 1/10 before even opening. Interestingly, the ratings break down like this:http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ghostbusters-is-a-perfect-example-of-how-internet-ratings-are-broken/

So as you can see, a lot of angry men who haven't yet seen the movie have given it low ratings, while a lot of women who haven't seen it have given it high ratings (probably to counteract the male campaign). Of course, male IMDB reviewers vastly outnumber female ones (by 5 to 1), so the ultimate result is low. Thus, this rating is less indicative of true feelings about the movie than it is some kind of gender war.

Sadly, this is not the first time this has happened, as there are studies showing that men are far more likely to give extremely low IMDB ratings to female-driven movies and shows even when they receive high ratings among critics (e.g., "Sex and the City"). If that's not some kind of reflexive sexism, I don't know what is. We live in a sad culture.

slupo 07-15-2016 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by karsten (Post 940514)
Which gives zero indication as to whether a film is good or bad; indeed, less so than ever.

More pertinently, it's at 4.3/10 on IMDb, and while that's not always an ideal measure either, it tends to be much closer to the truth than critics' scores.

That's just a bunch of people rating it 1 who haven't even seen it.

TigerFang 07-15-2016 03:35 PM

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Apparently, contrary to some opinions (not mine), a new generation of Ghostbuster fans seems ready for this all-female cast reboot. Kristen Wiig photo

From Harold Ramis' daughter, Violet Ramis Stiel, regarding Ghostbuster haters.

FoxHound 07-16-2016 01:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UpandComing (Post 940502)
So as you can see, Paul Feig's all-female take wasn't completely out of left field for the movie's world. In fact, it was an extension of an idea Reitman already had in pursuing a sequel. The original movie was only all-male because Reitman was friends with a bunch of male comics that he thought would be good for the characters. Much the same way Feig was friends with a bunch of female comics that he thought would be good for the characters.

You know, when I first heard it was going to be an all-female cast I actually thought it wasn't a bad idea. I thought it could work.

But when I learned a A-list alpha male megastar (Chris Hemsworth) was playing a "secretary" the film took on the life of a feminist gimmick. It was now intentionally crapping on the man-power angle of the original.

UpandComing 07-16-2016 01:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxHound (Post 940541)
You know, when I first heard it was going to be an all-female cast I actually thought it wasn't a bad idea. I thought it could work.

But when I learned a A-list alpha male megastar (Chris Hemsworth) was playing a "secretary" the film took on the life of a feminist gimmick. It was now intentionally crapping on the man-power angle of the original.

What do you mean by "man power" angle of the original? It was just a comedy with four male leads.

The update is just a comedy where the leads are female. Of course there's going to be some male eye candy.

And BTW -- Chris Hemsworth is by no means an "A-list megastar". His only hit movies have been the "Thor" movies, and their success has more to do with the Marvel brand than him. Outside of that, he has experienced bomb after bomb after bomb ("The Huntsman", "In the Heart of the Sea", "Blackhat", "Rush", etc.). He has yet to prove to be a solo draw, and at this point, I doubt he ever will be.

It's fascinating how some people think that when gender roles are reversed, something is automatically "feminist". There's an implication there that woman aren't allowed to do certain things that men are without it being seen as some kind of statement. Encourage you to examine why you feel that way.

FoxHound 07-16-2016 02:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UpandComing (Post 940542)
What do you mean by "man power" angle of the original? It was just a comedy with four male leads.

No. It wasn't. It started with three weird nerds no one liked (very relatable to men) and by the end of the film they saved the world, became heroes, and (one) got the girl.

Why do you think men connected with it on such an emotional level? I was just reading an article on how Reitman was bombarded with 30-40 something males who grew up with the originals who were now aghast at the new casting choices.

I'm certainly not one of those, but I'm also not blind. They've reversed the script. Now 4 women overcome a litany of obstacles, save the world, and become super heroes while the lone male character idles in a chair answering phones.


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