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docgonzo 07-22-2019 02:57 PM

First ATA agency breaks ranks
 
Kaplan-Stahler signs the code of conduct. The dam is about to burst!

https://deadline.com/2019/07/kaplan-...gn-1202650703/

finalact4 07-22-2019 07:35 PM

Re: First ATA agency breaks ranks
 
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Originally Posted by docgonzo (Post 964096)
Kaplan-Stahler signs the code of conduct. The dam is about to burst!

https://deadline.com/2019/07/kaplan-...gn-1202650703/

this is a good thing. it's probably good for the board that it happened before the voting. hopefully, this will give proper incentive to other agencies to come on board, too.

Abram's is still a hold out. interesting.

oh, and i've been reading up on the ANI, AGI, and ASI. crazy to think, i think i have a spark of an idea. LUCY was basically a human evolved into a biologic ASI.

Bono 07-22-2019 08:53 PM

Re: First ATA agency breaks ranks
 
i found 4 deals listed under DD with their name. I've heard of them, but never seen them out in the trades... but there are like 100 agencies like that so they must be doing something...

None of this matters. Its up to the big 4. Sorry, but this is not going to change things as I see. Every agency can sign, but if the big 4 don't, then what's the difference if they control what 90% of the work?

JoeBanks 07-23-2019 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bono (Post 964109)
None of this matters. Its up to the big 4. Sorry, but this is not going to change things as I see. Every agency can sign, but if the big 4 don't, then what's the difference if they control what 90% of the work?

CAA started as five ex-William Morris agents working off card tables. now they're majority-owned by private equity bros who have spent the last 5 years giving back much of what it took Ovitz et al. 40 years to build up. if WME's IPO goes **** up, their own p.e. investors could head for the exits and leave it in a weakened position. i'm not saying a new wave of disruption at the agency level is definitely going to happen but history says it's the nature of their business that all power is fleeting and there's always someone hungrier than whoever's sitting atop the throne willing to take a shot at the king

AnyOtherName 07-23-2019 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bono (Post 964109)
i found 4 deals listed under DD with their name. I've heard of them, but never seen them out in the trades... but there are like 100 agencies like that so they must be doing something...

None of this matters. Its up to the big 4. Sorry, but this is not going to change things as I see. Every agency can sign, but if the big 4 don't, then what's the difference if they control what 90% of the work?

I mean, if the Big Four can't represent writers, then they'll control 0% of the work; one day, they will no longer be so Big, and one day, they will no longer be Four.

catcon 07-23-2019 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AnyOtherName (Post 964114)
I mean, if the Big Four can't represent writers, then they'll control 0% of the work; one day, they will no longer be so Big, and one day, they will no longer be Four.

Through the magic of serialization and syndication, the money will keep rolling in to those 'Big 4' for decades.

It's like I say, we need to start doing more of the work ourselves, and most importantly retaining (more of) the rights to our I.P. - speaking about our own specs here, of course, not those juicy Marvel/DC adaptations. There, you may get a big payday at the front-end, but far less overall, and in the back-end.

JS90 07-23-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AnyOtherName (Post 964114)
I mean, if the Big Four can't represent writers, then they'll control 0% of the work; one day, they will no longer be so Big, and one day, they will no longer be Four.

Except they still represent the biggest directors and the biggest actors. I agree that they’ve taken a small hit, but they still have waaaay more leverage than anyone wants to admit.

Done Deal Pro 07-23-2019 10:03 AM

Re: First ATA agency breaks ranks
 
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Originally Posted by Bono (Post 964109)
i found 4 deals listed under DD with their name. I've heard of them, but never seen them out in the trades... but there are like 100 agencies like that so they must be doing something...

Which agency?

Bono 07-23-2019 10:10 AM

Re: First ATA agency breaks ranks
 
Kaplan-Stahler

It was actually 8 film deals and 21 TV deals... I looked too quickly -- but I was just saying that all these small places can join the WGA side of things, but unfortunately the big four have all the power still. It's up to them to change.

Get the feeling that this will lead to writers not being repped by the big four if they are only writers -- and the big four will only work with bigger names that produce and showrun and direct and act, as well as write.

That's just a guess. I don't know if that's better or worse. Maybe it's better if writers aren't lost in the shuffle of a giant agency machine. Who knows?

finalact4 07-23-2019 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AnyOtherName (Post 964114)
I mean, if the Big Four can't represent writers, then they'll control 0% of the work; one day, they will no longer be so Big, and one day, they will no longer be Four.

what happens if a big-time writer breaks ranks and goes back to an agency?

and, ideally, it would be great is the DGA and SAG would get on board with the WGA.


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