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Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting Yesterday, 04:24 PM
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Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

When I have a new idea, I pitch it far and wide because Iím dying for someone to kill it. If it turns out itís been done or thereís some flaw in it I canít answer, I want to know that before I invest...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting Yesterday, 09:53 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

Joe, stuff sells all the time that surprises me.

But no matter how many ways you ask, I just don't understand the mindset of someone going "well, I know this idea is mediocre, but rather than...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting Yesterday, 09:02 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

Thanks, Will. Great advice!
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting Yesterday, 08:55 AM
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Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

Joe, thanks for going to bat for me, but I think the only way to keep this thread from being derailed and locked as well is just starve him of the attention he clearly craves.

Back on topic:



When...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting Yesterday, 08:20 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

Joe, I appreciate the concern. Cyfress’s conspiracy theories and fetishization of physical violence directed at me are creepy, I’ll admit.

Will, is there a policy here about physical...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-13-2020, 07:24 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

Joe, Iíve seen plenty of movies that I thought had bad ideas that did well. Iím not the final word on anything.

What you donít seem to get is that Iím not zooming all over the internet crapping on...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-13-2020, 03:42 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

I think those are good definitions, Bono. I also think a crass one is: how easy will this movie be to sell? There are movies where you see the poster and trailer in your head when you hear the...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-13-2020, 10:49 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

You can capitalize the word and repeat it a dozen times, it's not what I said. Here is exactly what I said:



The word "great" is really hanging you up.
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-13-2020, 10:43 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

"Dude, Where's My Car?" is a clear idea that could be good if it's executed correctly. That is literally the first hurdle for every script written. I can not tell you how many loglines I read that...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-13-2020, 09:31 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

It is a very weird stance that some people are taking here. They're pointing out spec scripts that sold, got made, and were hits as examples of what not to do... to people who are trying to sell...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-12-2020, 10:48 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

LOL. Dude, Whereís My Car is the Mendoza Line of concept.
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-12-2020, 09:09 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

A woman is convinced she will die the next day - and it turns out her fear is contagious, and spreads to people she comes in contact with.

Contagious fear, and a built in clock (what happens...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-12-2020, 07:43 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

I think more of these are high concept than maybe you're giving credit:

She Dies Tomorrow
Cut Throat City
Unhinged (full logline isn't up, but it looks like it's in the mold of Falling Down)
Bill &...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-12-2020, 03:08 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 1,774
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: High Concept vs New High Concept

I think people can drive themselves crazy with definitions. If you have a smart contained thriller that has an angle no one has done, you'll get reads. If you're pitching "guy trapped in phone...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-12-2020, 11:57 AM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

Just trying to help your level of insult. You wouldn't look at a fat guy and say "hey, Pigpen!" Pigpen's defining trait is that he is literally a walking cloud of dirt. Also, he's a character from...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-12-2020, 11:45 AM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

Also, it's tete-a-tete.

And Pigpen is dirty, not fat.

No charge.
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-12-2020, 11:40 AM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

This is very upsetting. You didn't know the difference between high concept and low concept in 2010, and you still don't, a decade later?
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-10-2020, 09:47 PM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

Hey, Cyfress, upon further consideration, I love both the ideas you posted in this thread. I think we all do, right, guys? Right?!






Please don't kill me.
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-10-2020, 09:13 PM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

Couldn't agree with you more. High concept isn't some panacea. There are just as many bad high concept ideas as bad low concept ideas.



Hear. Hear.
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-10-2020, 09:08 PM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

That's some pretty mild irony, and besides, I don't see what something being ironic has to do with it being high concept. I'd honestly put irony as more of a characteristic of independent films,...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-10-2020, 03:37 PM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

Yes! A script needs an intriguing idea to even get requested from a query! Thank you for agreeing with the point I've been making for twenty pages!



Well, in your hypothetical, they're putting...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-10-2020, 03:15 PM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

Again, you said that you have literally never read a script that would be rejected because of its idea. Own it! Unless you've changed your mind.

I've done a couple of reviews of scripts here...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-10-2020, 02:58 PM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

No, I'm saying I'm not sure it's the event you think it will be. Go for it! I hope you get tons of helpful advice.



Yes, of course, they should write whatever they're passionate about! But if...
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-10-2020, 02:08 PM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

Wait, you missed it?

A HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Have a fun hour (http://messageboard.donedealpro.com/boards/showthread.php?t=83524).
Forum: Intermediate & Advanced Screenwriting 08-10-2020, 02:05 PM
Replies: 537
Views: 11,368
Posted By JeffLowell
Re: Picking Right Idea

I don't think anyone here is talking about a great story by someone who isn't good at writing a logline that sums it up. We're talking about scripts where the underlying concept isn't working. It's...
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