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Forum: Screenwriting 04-22-2010, 02:40 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,452
Posted By JimHull
Re: Character dilemma... any thoughts?

dog678 - your story reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSXVkBZmZsE

If "Lou" in the video looks familiar, he should -- he was the voice of Luigi in "Ratatouille" (and the design was...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-17-2010, 09:53 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 5,175
Posted By JimHull
Re: Without a character arc?

Sheesh, Kevan, I'm pretty sure the OP added that he used what he called "Vogler's Hero's Journey" to write his story and he was afraid that it wasn't a typical 3-act structure. I was just trying to...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-17-2010, 06:16 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 5,175
Posted By JimHull
Re: Without a character arc?

Biohazard is unfortunately right, when you start out you have to account for everyone's notes. Which is why when it comes to getting paid, I would always do what the boss says (since it's his money...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-15-2010, 07:20 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 5,175
Posted By JimHull
Re: Without a character arc?

Last year, I put together a video showcasing Main Characters who do not change (http://storyfanatic.com/articles/story-structure/what-character-arc-really-means), i.e. they don't have the...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-09-2010, 04:47 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

LOL -- no, I'll start another thread for that :)
Forum: Screenwriting 04-09-2010, 03:37 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

Again, the currently accepted definitions of protagonist and story goal are insufficient when it comes to accurately describing what is going on within a story. I'm not sure exactly how much of this...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-08-2010, 06:42 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

To address MrEarbrass:

I don't feel compelled to force "Mockingbird" or "Casablanca" into any paradigm. The OP expressed confusion because he was trying to write a story where the Main Character...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-08-2010, 02:00 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

The Goal of a story is the one thing that will overcome the problems affecting everyone in a story. The goal, or purpose, of any piece of fiction sits outside of the world of the story itself. This...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-07-2010, 03:57 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

Nope, nothing to add. You summed it up perfectly.
Forum: Screenwriting 04-05-2010, 06:41 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

Just noticed jonpiper's question about the story goal in Casablanca...

I don't see the goal of "Casablanca" as being to secure Laszlo and Ilsa's freedom as much as it is to secure the letters of...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-05-2010, 12:21 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

I have no problems with what you said, in fact, I think it's a great lead up to more discussion:

Context creates meaning. Without context, you can't have meaning. If I hold my hand up and ask "Is...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-03-2010, 11:49 AM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

I was wondering when the "what have you written" question was going to come up. I have sold something, but I don't think that kind of accomplishment has anything to do with whether or not someone...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-03-2010, 09:58 AM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

I would be willing to use the term "Viewpoint Character" if it accurately communicated what is going on inside of stories. I don't think it does.

Every great story has a Main Character through...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-03-2010, 01:42 AM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

For the sake of clarity:

The currently accepted definition of the term protagonist is too simplistic to describe the complexity of what really goes on inside of great stories.

Rick is the Main...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-01-2010, 06:02 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

I guess my problem would be that if the goal of the story was Rick getting Ilsa than who would the Antagonist be? You could say Lazlo, but by definition, an Antagonist actively prevents the...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-01-2010, 03:00 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

Thanks zen, no biggee though, I just know that people scan extended threads like this and I didn't want the casual reader to think I was completely insane.

As far as Poetics goes, I have read it,...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-01-2010, 02:00 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

LOL - if you read any of my posts, I never once stated that Rick is the Antagonist. Maj. Strasser is clearly the Antagonist.

Re: Red as simply being the Narrator

Red has a problem that many of the...
Forum: Screenwriting 04-01-2010, 11:08 AM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

Re: loglines for Shawshank and Casablanca

I have an idea where you are headed with this question, but before I bite...

In my estimation, loglines are about as useful to an author as the concept of...
Forum: Screenwriting 03-31-2010, 02:02 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

"Titanic" I'll skip because I don't think it was particularly that great. As far as "Best Friend's Wedding" goes I would definitely say that Julia Roberts is both the Protagonist and Main Character....
Forum: Screenwriting 03-31-2010, 11:28 AM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

No, I would never do that...:)

My apologies to those who think I've tarnished the image of DoneDealPro. I didn't come in here to piss people off or offer an invitation to the Flat Earth society. ...
Forum: Screenwriting 03-30-2010, 07:01 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

I would argue that Casablanca is both a love story between Rick and Ilsa AND a story about a resistance leader trying to escape the Nazis. The former is the heart of the story, the latter is the...
Forum: Screenwriting 03-30-2010, 06:19 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

Which is why Rick is the Main Character and Lazlo is the Protagonist.

There is a difference between the audience's reception of a story and the work of fiction itself.

Sure, the audience doesn't...
Forum: Screenwriting 03-30-2010, 05:11 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

No, you could definitely convince me. I've been wrong before. You can search "Children of Men" on my site for a good example where a reader pointed out flaws in my initial analysis. My initial...
Forum: Screenwriting 03-30-2010, 04:23 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

LOL, nice one dmizzo - The problems in "Casablanca" exist because there are two letters of transit that have gone missing. Letters of transit that Lazlo was going to use to get to America. Everyone...
Forum: Screenwriting 03-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Replies: 271
Views: 44,640
Posted By JimHull
Re: Fatal Flaw?

Hey instant,

Sure I can give you some more examples that aren't adaptations:

As mentioned above, "The Lives of Others" (Das Leben der Anderen) which won the Oscar for Best Foreign Film in 2006 has...
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