Re: Picking Right Idea
Not afraid? Then what's with not replying to that member and posting a pseudo-reply in public in a bid to keep that member silent?
Unlike yourself, I've nothing to hide. I sent you the PM, I sent it to help you, and I'm calling you out for lying to the board about the supposed 'nasty content' in order to a) gain sympathy and b) suppress a response from the sender. And no, I don't believe you were referring to another member's PM that also happened to reference hiding out in the Announcements forum.
I read this entire thread, bemused at you arguing with others, telling a pro who knows better - and has direct personal experience to back up what he's saying - that he's wrong, whilst insisting that no one in the industry would think differently to you. I read and I was gobsmacked so I PM'ed you tough love with a reverse psychological ploy to inspire humility and change. In other words: to help you. And just for transparency, so you don't try and weasel again, here it is:
'Having read your posts over the years, I truly feel you are your own worst enemy. You stick to your own guns and opinions when you've not the skill or success to be so bold and you believe your inexperienced opinions are not only equal to, but better than, those of working pros.
That's not to say you must always back down to a pro but in many cases, most, you really should. Especially when you are not speaking from a position of authority.
You also shoot yourself in the foot by being such a delicate flower that you refuse to post your work openly, instead posting in the Announcements section and insist no one openly critiques you. You simply are not cut out to be a writer if you are so fragile.
You will not change. You have been this way for years. And that is why, in my opinion, you will fail. But I write this anyway because I hate to see someone stubbornly and without good reason, argue with pros rather than heed them and accept they're probably right and adjust their thinking accordingly so they can grow and develop. I hate to see them shoot themselves in the foot'.
See the comments in bold? They open and close my PM. To drive home the reason for my PM and to avoid any cries of 'waaah! Waaah!' My PM details exactly WHY I said what I said, so as to avoid any cries of - again - 'waaah! Waaah!' And I said you won't change and will fail in the hope that you'll pick up the gauntlet and prove me wrong, thereby helping yourself develop instead of conveniently (yet without reason) deciding you're right and no one in the industry would jump at the chance to buy and produce JTMD even though that's exactly what happened.
I wasn't pissed at you for disagreeing with Jeff, your actions have no impact on me, nor did I say he's great. Considering his dislike of me and the best I get off him is short shrift and sarcasm, I'm hardly going to be his biggest cheerleader, am I?
Not afraid? You're legendary for being so. And, I was trying to snap you out of it. Yes, you posted in the Announcements forum because you're afraid of criticism. Everyone else posts in one of the Script Pages feedback sections so the pages can be read, feedback given and read by others - which, contrary to your belief, is the actual correct process rather than asking for yet another forum that does exactly the same as what the existing three feedback forums do.
Your argument doesn't even make sense. You want to provide education for new writers by having your pages assessed? Well stop posting in the Announcements forum and pick one of the feedback forums instead. Simple. No need for a new forum and all feedback is visible instead of seen only by you. You haven't proved anything about not being scared. The only proof will be posting your pages - as the rest of us do - where any forum member can read them, critique them, and share their thoughts with the rest of the board.
If you can't take criticism - as you're famed for - then I stand by my statement that writing is not for you. And it's my belief you detailed the criticism from other readers to try and limit negative feedback. I got ripped apart by Craig Mazin and I welcomed it. I specifically sought him for his refreshing, stark honesty. It made me a better writer and my very next script did well on The Black List. Maybe I would've got there without him but I certainly doubt it.
As would deferring to pros, gaining humility and opening yourself up to criticism that can be viewed by all. Which, funnily enough, is what my PM stated.
Originally posted by JoeNYC
I received a nasty PM, which the member's name I shall not mention, personally attacked me and mentioned that I posted my AMERICAN SLAVES screenplay in the ANNOUCEMENT forum to hide because I was afraid and too sensitive of public criticism.
Unlike yourself, I've nothing to hide. I sent you the PM, I sent it to help you, and I'm calling you out for lying to the board about the supposed 'nasty content' in order to a) gain sympathy and b) suppress a response from the sender. And no, I don't believe you were referring to another member's PM that also happened to reference hiding out in the Announcements forum.
I read this entire thread, bemused at you arguing with others, telling a pro who knows better - and has direct personal experience to back up what he's saying - that he's wrong, whilst insisting that no one in the industry would think differently to you. I read and I was gobsmacked so I PM'ed you tough love with a reverse psychological ploy to inspire humility and change. In other words: to help you. And just for transparency, so you don't try and weasel again, here it is:
'Having read your posts over the years, I truly feel you are your own worst enemy. You stick to your own guns and opinions when you've not the skill or success to be so bold and you believe your inexperienced opinions are not only equal to, but better than, those of working pros.
That's not to say you must always back down to a pro but in many cases, most, you really should. Especially when you are not speaking from a position of authority.
You also shoot yourself in the foot by being such a delicate flower that you refuse to post your work openly, instead posting in the Announcements section and insist no one openly critiques you. You simply are not cut out to be a writer if you are so fragile.
You will not change. You have been this way for years. And that is why, in my opinion, you will fail. But I write this anyway because I hate to see someone stubbornly and without good reason, argue with pros rather than heed them and accept they're probably right and adjust their thinking accordingly so they can grow and develop. I hate to see them shoot themselves in the foot'.
See the comments in bold? They open and close my PM. To drive home the reason for my PM and to avoid any cries of 'waaah! Waaah!' My PM details exactly WHY I said what I said, so as to avoid any cries of - again - 'waaah! Waaah!' And I said you won't change and will fail in the hope that you'll pick up the gauntlet and prove me wrong, thereby helping yourself develop instead of conveniently (yet without reason) deciding you're right and no one in the industry would jump at the chance to buy and produce JTMD even though that's exactly what happened.
I wasn't pissed at you for disagreeing with Jeff, your actions have no impact on me, nor did I say he's great. Considering his dislike of me and the best I get off him is short shrift and sarcasm, I'm hardly going to be his biggest cheerleader, am I?
Not afraid? You're legendary for being so. And, I was trying to snap you out of it. Yes, you posted in the Announcements forum because you're afraid of criticism. Everyone else posts in one of the Script Pages feedback sections so the pages can be read, feedback given and read by others - which, contrary to your belief, is the actual correct process rather than asking for yet another forum that does exactly the same as what the existing three feedback forums do.
Your argument doesn't even make sense. You want to provide education for new writers by having your pages assessed? Well stop posting in the Announcements forum and pick one of the feedback forums instead. Simple. No need for a new forum and all feedback is visible instead of seen only by you. You haven't proved anything about not being scared. The only proof will be posting your pages - as the rest of us do - where any forum member can read them, critique them, and share their thoughts with the rest of the board.
If you can't take criticism - as you're famed for - then I stand by my statement that writing is not for you. And it's my belief you detailed the criticism from other readers to try and limit negative feedback. I got ripped apart by Craig Mazin and I welcomed it. I specifically sought him for his refreshing, stark honesty. It made me a better writer and my very next script did well on The Black List. Maybe I would've got there without him but I certainly doubt it.
It'll help make your work stronger.
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