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  • MAN OF STEEL teasers

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57178

    The first features V.O. from Pa Kent (Kevin Costner); the second, Jor-El (Russell Crowe).

    Personally, I'm intrigued....

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    Father. Other father. Always you wrestle inside me.
    "Only nothing is impossible."
    - Grant Morrison

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      Disclaimer: I liked SUPERMAN RETURNS quite a bit. I think it's a lovely independent art film that just happens to cost $200 million dollars and star Superman. It only fails (and it does so admittedly pretty hard) during the moments when it suddenly remembers its supposed to be a summer tent pole.

      That said, I understand why others wouldn't like it. And I understand why WB would want to move in the complete opposite direction and hire someone like Zack Snyder to reboot.

      And I don't understand how this is that. From everything I've heard/read, this sounds every bit as "Superman going through an existential crisis" as SUPERMAN RETURNS was, only instead of wrestling with poor decisions and being alone he's now wrestling with... his own sense of purpose, I guess? So that's different, then?

      He appears to be a damn good fisherman, though, so there's that.

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        That was pretty great. I happen to think that Snyder is a perfect match with Superman. It looks like he's going for a more gritty look here, like he did with Dawn Of The Dead remake. Snyder's DOTD has a sloppy script, but a lot of great direction.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by tuukka View Post
          Snyder's DOTD has a sloppy script, but a lot of great direction.
          Not sure what you mean...there were a couple of small choices I disagreed with, but otherwise I thought it was an effective script.
          "Forget it, Jake. It's Hollywood."

          My YouTube channel.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by tuukka View Post
            Snyder's DOTD has a sloppy script
            In what way? I think most otherwise.

            Please don't say it's 'cause his zombies don't shuffle like the snore-inducing zombies of yesteryear.
            M.A.G.A.

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              I think James Gunn's DAWN OF THE DEAD script is the best part of that whole movie. It's a movie I don't like, but that's another story I suppose.

              Zombies don't run, but that's also why I don't like that movie

              Giving zombies the power to speed around is like suddenly giving werewolves the power to fly. As if something was wrong with them before.

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                I'm as old school zombie fan as you can get (saw NotLD at the drive-in when I was six), and I don't have a problem with running zombies*. If it's a well-done zombie flick, I don't care.

                *I'll cop I had a problem swallowing the levitating, rock 'em-sock 'em zombies in Stephen King's otherwise great "Cell", but that was asking a li'l much.
                "Forget it, Jake. It's Hollywood."

                My YouTube channel.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by SteveLilley View Post
                  Zombies don't run
                  Says who?


                  Giving zombies the power to speed around is like suddenly giving werewolves the power to fly. As if something was wrong with them before.
                  Well, the problem here is two fold IMO. First, something comes along and shakes up the genre and changes the game so much that what came before is blown away. Case in point is the Bond films (Connery included). I used to love the action and the fight scenes. Even campy Moore. But once Bourne came along, all the Bond films just seemed child-like, tame and were rendered obsolete. I loved the gadgets but all of a sudden, after the gritty reality of Bourne they just looked preposterous - even when they were obviously tongue in cheek. When Brosnan came on the scene, I thought he was a gritty Bond but even he appears camp compared to how Greegrass showcased Bourne.

                  As a result there was no going back. At all. Which is why Casino Royale rightly followed Bourne's lead and featured brutal fight scenes and zero gadgets. The same can be said for the shuffling mummy films of the 40s and the 50s ci fi where the woman stands in a corner, shrieking, before fainting.

                  So with regards to zombies, Snyder's DotD (prefaced by 28 Days Later) turned the genre on its head, making what went before seem passe. Shuffling zombies 'n' all. It made you realise - as with Bond and co - that what used to pass for good/scary is actually quite laughable.

                  The second problem is that your werewolf analogy is trying to fix something that isn't broken but, as indicated, the zombie genre clearly was. There was something wrong with the set up - and it's shamblig zombies moving at 1mph and with the strength of a mid sized rat. They are just not scary and not a serious adversary. They only become a therat when you're cornered in a room full of them. Even then you can take a nap before running to the back door - or bargig past them.

                  DotD (1978) was pitiful waaaaaaaay before the remake made it official. again, all this is IMO. And therefore fact.

                  That bald, bespectacled guy in the mall? Puh-leeez....
                  M.A.G.A.

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                    You literally just blew all the good will you earned from TANGO AND CASH in the other thread. That was impressive. You made it look effortless

                    I mean, I'm going to try to disagree with most of the things you just said as kindly as possible. As much as I love Craig, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE is still the best James Bond movie.

                    The original DAWN OF THE DEAD is a masterpiece.

                    Zack Snyder didn't "improve" anything. He changed zombies to the point where they shouldn't be called zombies anymore. Just call them something else and do the same thing. It's fine.

                    He removed literally my favorite thing about zombies. If it's "Steve vs. One Zombie", I'll probably win. I might even win against two. But eventually, a whole lot of those bastards are gonna gather up around me and all the guns in the world won't matter at that point.

                    If one single zombie is suddenly terrifying and unstoppable, why do they have to be everywhere in a movie like the DotD remake? What's the point? Three or four seem like they'd work just fine if you're a writer and you're trying to kill a whole bunch of unlikeable characters.

                    I dunno. Agree to disagree, I guess.

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                    • #11
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                      A zombie is a reanimated dead person. They are still zombies. No need to call them anything else.

                      Unlikeable characters? Agree to disagree.

                      Don't understad your "if one is terrifying why have a city of them" argument. A million of them simply makes it even more daunting. By that logic you can take your "one Romero zombie is weak but a shed load is bad news" slant and ask why so many zombie movies feature one on one and two one one in that case? Bald zombie and the one amidst the pipes, for example. I mean, we know they're not scary on their own so why keep gicing us these protracted scenes?

                      As for FRWL being the best Bond, you miss my point. I never mentioned quality of film - just the fights and the gadgets. The realistic, gritty Bourne killed all previous Bonds. Whether you were a fan of Bond or nor. It was a game changer and it made the make believe look chillike and whimsical to the point where they cannot be taken seriously anymore. When game changers come along, what went before just seems passe - as per all those examples I gave. And whether you like it or not - such as old Bond (which I like) and old zombies (which I didn't). And even what once was awesome is little more than quaint - just how my generation looks back on 40s horror and 50s sci fi.......as well as all films from those eras where the 22 yr old cutie girl falls in love with a 50 yr old dude, brylcreemed to the hilt.

                      But yeah, agree to disagree, I guess. However, even people (like you, I suppose) who grew up on Romero's snore zombies must admit that as a hroor creation, zombies are lame. Yes, a ton of them is scary - but so too is a ton of slugs. Anything en masse can be terrifying but as a stand alone creation, Romero zombies are anything but scary.
                      M.A.G.A.

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                      • #12
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                        I didn't mean that, re: Bond. If you go back and look at DR. NO and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, there's very little gadget-work at play. The craziest thing in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE is a briefcase with a bomb in it that goes off if you move the catches in the wrong way. It is effectively bare-bones Bond, just Craig plays him angrier because he's much earlier in his career. He's still the same sex addict (seriously, SHAME is a movie about James Bond when he's off duty) that we all know and love.

                        As far as the fights, I mean... that's also kind of a product of the time more than anything. I think Bond vs. Robert Shaw on the train is awesome. But again, I'm not saying you HAVE to like it Just that I do.

                        And I never really got into those BOURNE movies, but I understand your point. I'm just throwing that out there.

                        My point with the "why a whole city" thing was that, at a certain point, it becomes diminishing returns. If three can accomplish essentially the same thing 15 can, then why use 15? It's not scary to me at that point. Or any MORE scary, I guess.

                        Look at my point this way, I guess: everybody (and by that, I mean horror fans) knows what they would do in a zombie apocalypse. They know where they'd go, they know who they'd go with, they know what they'd take. Everyone has thought about it. Nobody bothers with a "vampire outbreak," or an "army of werewolves," because it's totally different. They're too powerful for that kind of fun. I'm not saying those guys AREN'T fun. Just different.

                        And running zombies, in my opinion, removes that aspect of what makes zombies unique. Because now all of a sudden they're all super fast and powerful, and there's no more "We got screwed by our own hubris" aspect of it. It's "I wasn't faster than that zombie", which really isn't all that special anymore. It becomes interchangeable on a base level.

                        SHAUN OF THE DEAD is a recent example of it where, as you say, it starts out silly because only a few zombies aren't really scary (which I never disagreed with) and ends as a legitimate horror movie where they're almost all dead due to the hubris of a few people.

                        [The Dude]But that's just, like, my opinion, man. [/The Dude]

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                        • #13
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                          So the new Superman movie has zombies in it? Huh. Not really the direction I would've gone in, but...

                          HH

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                            Aaaaand BOOM: http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2...rman_super.jpg

                            We're right back on topic again

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                            • #15
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                              OK zombie nerds, time to get a room.

                              BTW, the Man of Steel teasers, I approve.
                              Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue

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