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In detail, what exactly should happen at this point?
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There is no iron-clad rule, and it sounds like that's what you're asking for.
I will say that there's usually a major setpiece. Often, it is a big reversal in the main tension - eg, if the second act ends on a positive note, you'll have a huge setback here. If the second act ends negatively, you'll have the hero make a major accomplishment. Often, there's a major ramp-up here. Worth pointing out that in JAWS the shark is clearly seen for the first time almost exactly at the film's midpoint, and in JURASSIC PARK we see the T-Rex for the first time almost exactly at the film's midpoint. |
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I am truly horrible to my characters. I usually like to kill the most likable character around the midpoint.
Reversal of action in the plot is always a good way to go. Reversal of fortune for the protagonist is another way to go. If the bad guy plot is integral, having them succeed in phase one of their plan can go a long way in pulling us into the second half. I think these all point back toward a simple premise: at midpoint, you gotta raise the stakes. |
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Yeah, what others have said above. ^^
Something big happens that takes the story in a different direction.The fortunes of the MC change. Stakes are raised. It's hard to be specific b/c the events at the midpoint are linked with the individual story. Take a look at your favorite movies. Fast forward to roughly the middle. What happens here? Most likely it's something BIG. I've noticed that in some movies the story direction changes so much it almost feels like a different story. EX: At the midpoint of FIELD OF DREAMS they leave Iowa and travel... it becomes more of a road movie. In JAWS, they leave land & go on a boat trip... it becomes more of an all-out action/adv movie.
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I say it's the point of no return. Your protag can't back out and has to go after his goal, which would be raising the stakes--like said above.
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+1 on others.
Think of it this way, you're on a journey in your script. Following multiple paths to ultimately reach a cliff (Fade Out), but midway through, a giant sign is in front of you saying "POINT OF NO RETURN!" -- you must pass it, and you can not go back... In simpler terms... ask yourself, "What's the worst that could happen right now?"
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I always liked the way THE VERDICT and A FEW GOOD MEN handle the midpoint. They have very similar midpoints, but they take two very different approaches. In both films, the main character is an attorney who has accepted a case at the end of act 1 and is trying to get a quick settlement through the first half of act 2. Both films have a similar midpoint in that these attorneys ultimately take their respective cases to trial even thought they really didn't want that. THE VERDICT's approach is almost the perfect midpoint, IMO, because Newman's character inadvertently sets in motion the events that cost him the easy settlement. He literally sticks himself with a trial he didn't want, and leaves himself with only one choice. A FEW GOOD MEN is less binding. Cruise gets the settlement offer he wants, but his clients refuse to accept. Cruise is then forced to make a choice... either quit or go forward with the trial. I personally like THE VERDICT's approach because it's plot driven. Newman's choice is literally forced by his own hand. I really dig that a lot. Especially considering the inner demons his character faces. The sequence where Cruise makes his midpoint decision, however, is more of a character driven beat. Cruise isn't locked into the case -- he can quit and that option is offered to him. But Demi Moore challenges his father/son issues, Tom goes to a bar to do some soul searching, and then dramatically appears in court to announce their "not guilty" plea -- essentially locking himself into the trial. I like both a lot. One succeeds on a slick plot reversal. The other gets there on a slick character reversal. |
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In every good movie, the midpoint is the point of no return (Midpoint of No Return?) - the point where the hero must commit to the goal and literally cannot turn around and walk away. STAR WARS - Falcon sucked into Death Star. Luke could have said "F-ck this" and left at any point before then. Now he's trapped and must act. JAWS - Shark attacks Brody's son/Brody sets sail on boat. Internally, he cannot turn back. The shark went after his son, so now it's personal. Physically, he cannot turn back. He's on Quint's boat, and psycho Quint is not turning around. Midpoint = point of no return.
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The movie is 2 hours and 2 minutes long from the opening until the credits come up. At 1:01, the fake shark attack is revealed to be the kids with the fin, and at 1:02:40 we get our first clear view of the shark as it grabs a victim. (We saw a hazy view of it through the water a moment before as it entered the estuary). Quint's boat actually motors away from the dock at 1:12. (I did a minute-by-minute breakdown of this film in research for one of my projects). I would say that there's a big character change in Brody at the midpoint. Before that scene, he's reactive to the other characters: he lets the mayor browbeat him, he accepts others attempts to tell him how to handle the situation. After this, he no longer does - he starts taking charge of the investigation. Also worth pointing out is that the midpoint setpiece is when it becomes personal: the shark almost gets Brody's son. |
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