The Avengers 3D

[Recreant]

Originally Posted by ChadStrohl

Zak Penn did write them both.

...sort of.

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/joss-...ers-screenplay

[zz9]

Originally Posted by ChadStrohl

Zak Penn did write them both.

He didn't get a screenplay credit, only a joint "Story By" credit. AFAIK the screenplay is 100% Whedon and Penn only kept a Story credit because some main elements of his script (Loki being the baddie, the cosmic cube, Coulson dying etc) had to be kept because they had already been dictated by Marvel and many had already been set up in the earlier movies.

[ChadStrohl]

Yeah. I knew Whedon was top dog on the writing and Penn had some influence. I though maybe the Hulk angle might have been his (or based on his).

[SteveLilley]

Originally Posted by ChadStrohl

Yeah. I knew Whedon was top dog on the writing and Penn had some influence. I though maybe the Hulk angle might have been his (or based on his).

When asked about what he sees as his two biggest accomplishments in the film, his answer was "Mewling Quim" and "The Hulk." So I've taken that as an indication that the Hulk is him.

Originally Posted by Biohazard

But seriously, it's hilarious watching people try to justify the lazy writing in this movie.

"I can control it, except for when I can't control it!"

And luckily for the director, he learns to control it just in time for the big set-piece at the end!

I'm not sure exactly who you're referring to, and I'm not trying to say the movie is CASABLANCA, but as far as the Hulk goes there are two explanations within the movie itself that work completely fine for me in that regard. They're more than enough for me to buy into the "can control it/can't control it" thing and move on with myself.

1. In the earlier scene on the helicarrier, they're all being affected by Loki's staff, and
2. On the helicarrier, Banner says something to the effect of "I don't get what I want every time." Meaning that just because he can control *when* he turns, doesn't mean he can necessarily always control what happens when "the other guy" shows up. But presumably, it's easier to control when he's not being affected by Loki's staff, wasn't just in an explosion and didn't just fall an undisclosed number of floors into the bowels of a flying magical aircraft carrier

Those two things combined work for me. In a movie with giant rage beasts, inter-dimensional travel and robot space worms, that's literally all I need to go with it.

*shrugs*

[ChadStrohl]

Who wouldn't be proud of Mewling Quim?