Click here for Done Deal Pro home page

Done Deal Pro Home Page

Loading

Go Back   Done Deal Pro Forums > About the Craft > Screenwriting
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-26-2013, 10:05 PM   #71
finalact4
Member
 
finalact4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,678
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Vergerus View Post
A novelist against the use of the semicolon is like a painter against the use of yellow or upward brushstrokes: that may be his choice but it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with using them.

I know there are many famous novelists that have spoken against the use of the semicolon in fiction, but there are probably many more that use it often in their work. What I've noticed is that American writers seem to use it less often than European or Asian writers; maybe it's a cultural thing, I don't know.
Pretentious famous novelists.

I use them all the time. I use colons, too. I don't think about it, I just write it. I also write in fragmented sentences and use single word sentences.

Yeah, the apostrophe thing can be a little annoying. Poor spelling, I notice. Who am I to judge another writer's style. All I care about is an engaging, entertaining story. I don't care if it's in rainbow colors.

FA4
__________________

My opinions are just that-- opinions.
https://www.lisamolusis.com/project-02
finalact4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2013, 12:07 AM   #72
OtisLovesUs
User
 
OtisLovesUs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 181
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

Quote:
Originally Posted by nealm View Post
I agree with other posters about swearing. I find the F word to be incredibly lazy and ugly. Yes, it has it's place, but I use it very sparingly if at all.

Creative names bug the hell out of me as well. What happened to all the Mikes and Jennifers in the world? Why does everybody have to be named McKensie or Strummer these days? BTW this trend has extended to the real world. Think of all the kids you know under the age of three. I bet you'll be hard pressed to find a Matt or a Lisa among them.

I also find it irritating when writers dictate the soundtrack with all their current favorite tunes. There are occasionally moments in a script when a particular song is important to the narrative, but most of the time it's entirely unnecessary.
Well this is troubling. Now I'm definitely going to have to change the name of the protag in my current script, Strummer McKensie, who swears like an flippin' sailor.

Seriously though, I know where you're coming from on all three of your pet peeves, but... in my actual current script, half the characters are criminals, half are law enforcement (cops, FBI, Interpol), and one of them is an Irishman from Scotland Yard. There quite simply are going to be some effinheimers flying out of these guys' mouths.

And among the criminal bunch there are a number of nicknames, so there are a few creative names between them. But it feels real to me. Besides, this is the largest cast I've ever had, and I think there have to be some unique names in there to help keep them all straight. I personally have trouble remembering names, so it's normal for me to forget which one is Bob and which one is Sam by page 30.

*** After watching La Femme Nikita tonight for the first time in years I remembered another pet peeve of mine: Waifish women who soundly kick the asses of trained male killers who are a full foot taller, have an extra foot of reach, and outweigh them by 150 pounds. I'm all for tough chick characters, but unless we're operating in a heightened Lara Croft-type world, ease up, 'cause all it does is make me scoff when I should be riveted.
OtisLovesUs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2013, 04:05 PM   #73
malfernan
User
 
malfernan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 86
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

Craig and John talk about semi colons in their scriptnotes podcast. Two writers on their 3 page challenge misused it. They're not huge fans of the semi colon.

http://johnaugust.com/2013/adventures-in-semi-colons
__________________


Last edited by malfernan : 08-27-2013 at 04:19 PM.
malfernan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2013, 09:00 PM   #74
finalact4
Member
 
finalact4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,678
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

Quote:
Originally Posted by malfernan View Post
Craig and John talk about semi colons in their scriptnotes podcast. Two writers on their 3 page challenge misused it. They're not huge fans of the semi colon.

http://johnaugust.com/2013/adventures-in-semi-colons
Perhaps the reason so many are against the use of semi-colons is because few know how to use them correctly, no?
FA4

Revised without proofreading first.
__________________

My opinions are just that-- opinions.
https://www.lisamolusis.com/project-02

Last edited by finalact4 : 08-28-2013 at 12:11 PM.
finalact4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 04:23 AM   #75
Dr. Vergerus
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

Quote:
Originally Posted by finalact4 View Post
Perhaps this is the reason so many are against the use of semi-colons is because few know how to use them correctly, no?
FA4
True. In the case of the 3-page challenge script they mention in the podcast, I can't understand why the writer thought it would be a good idea to use a semicolon there.

Ellipses are also often misused in screenplays.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 08:28 AM   #76
MJ Scribe
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto...
Posts: 798
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

I'm not even sure if I use ellipses correctly... Any advice what to look for in terms of screenwriting or where it's decidedly misused before I check out some research on it? Thanks for the checkup Dr. V.

ETA after the fact: Well I did find this http://thewritepractice.com/how-to-u...sis-correctly/ Seems to cover the basics. Were you referring to punctuation or just overall application overall to signify trailing off of a thought or skipping past a segment of information?

Hmm, I'm just not sure ...

Last edited by MJ Scribe : 08-28-2013 at 08:38 AM.
MJ Scribe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 09:01 AM   #77
Dr. Vergerus
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

I could be wrong, but I think that when a character interrupts another the proper way to write it would be:

Quote:
ANDER
So I wondered if you--

MR. MARKEL
Would you like something to drink?
Although some people will write it like this:

Quote:
ANDER
So I wondered if you...

MR. MARKEL
Would you like something to drink?
Which reads as Ander trailing off.

Then also in action paragraphs some people seem to use double dashes and ellipses as if they were interchangeable, when they usually aren't.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 09:30 AM   #78
pabloamigo
User
 
pabloamigo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sheffield, UK
Posts: 185
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

David Guggenheim tends to use and abuse double dashes quite a lot.
pabloamigo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 10:06 AM   #79
SNAFU
Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 296
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

Quote:
Originally Posted by wcmartell View Post
That funny comeback I heard in three other movies. The CGI destruction porn act 3. A bunch of illogical plotting that no one cared enough to make sense of.
This.
SNAFU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 10:16 AM   #80
MJ Scribe
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto...
Posts: 798
Default Re: Screenplay pet peeves

Thanks for reply Dr. V. I think those a great examples.

I agree for the most part, double dashes are better employed to signify a change in the speaker's thought direction. From what I've read mostly, criticism of the ellipses seems to focus on the intricacies of punctuation. Spaces before/after, use of a period before the ellipsis at times etc.

Anything else come to mind? Other than plain over-use which I definitely seem to do...

(I know this is probably wrong section/thread for all this so profussly apologize. I'll drop it after this, my last question.)
MJ Scribe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Done Deal Pro

eXTReMe Tracker