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  • 50 Shades of Grey

    Yeah, I didn't see it, too.

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    Say what you want, it's probably the best Three Stooges interpretation out there.

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    • #3
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      They tapped into the "curiosity" of audiences, whether the audience had read the book or not. Women wanted to see it and men likely wouldn't object to seeing it with their partners, I'm sure.

      I'll never give it my time or money, but congrats to them for making a heap of cash off of smut.

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        I saw it. My curiosity was more about HOW do you adapt THAT and get an R rating?

        The answer: you leave a lot out. There's still a shocking amount of scenes left in -- and oddly, a lot of female nudity, which seems strange since the film is directed at women (?) To get that rating, though, a lot of scenes were made less violent/ overbearing/manipulative.

        Overall, I think the screenwriter did the best she could. I can't imagine anyone doing better with what they had to work with.

        The actors had no chemistry to speak of, and I think Jamie Dornan was miscast. He didn't get any scenes to really reveal his personality or make him three-dimensional -- which may have helped the audience want them to be together. My reaction was -- wow, that guy really doesn't want to be here. Dakota Johnson was very good, fresh and pretty, and I root for her to succeed onward in her career, she deserves it. She held the entire film together by the force of her pure outlook and raw vulnerability. I mean --it wasn't a good film, but I can't imagine the mess this would've been if she hadn't been cast.

        A lesson in how to adapt, if nothing else.

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          I thought it was supposed to just be a 2 hour S&M porn?
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          • #6
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            I hate having to be the guy to defend it but it seems to me like most of its biggest critics are people who have not seen the film and don't plan to or haven't even read the book. While I'm sure it probably isn't great I doubt it is the travesty it's being made out to be.

            The Duke of Burgundy is out this week which is supposed to be quite good for those that need an alternative S&M film this week.

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              Anything that targets women or girls and is about romance or sex - for women's pleasure, not men's -- tends to engender large amounts of hostility. It's a special kind of hatred.

              I've read the first novel, and it's absolute dreck. But so are most of the films made for 15 year old boys that screenwriters gush over.
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              • #8
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                I can 100% agree that the book was atrocious but I always felt if you trimmed a lot of the fat you'd have a halfway decent film.

                And I have to assume they took out all of her catchphrases that made her sound like a child.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by figment View Post
                  There's still a shocking amount of scenes left in -- and oddly, a lot of female nudity, which seems strange since the film is directed at women (?) To get that rating, though, a lot of scenes were made less violent/ overbearing/manipulative.
                  Rumor has it that movies with male nudity tend to get harsher ratings from MPAA than female nudity. Or at least that's a common criticism of the ratings process.

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                  • #10
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                    But it's the reverse, for indications of sexual pleasure, interestingly.

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                    • #11
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                      Pretty bad. I couldn't believe how much of the second act was dedicated to a sex contract. Is this 50 Shades of Grey or The Paper Chase?
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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by omjs View Post
                        Rumor has it that movies with male nudity tend to get harsher ratings from MPAA than female nudity. Or at least that's a common criticism of the ratings process.
                        In this movie, yes it probably would have been an issue with the MPAA, but the Scarlett Johansson movie, Under the Skin, had what like 4 or 5 instances of full-on erect penis shots?

                        Dornan also had it in his contract that audiences wouldn't be seeing his schvantz. Charlie woulda showed 'em...

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                        • #13
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                          Right, despite the source, this is SFW:

                          http://www.pornhub.com/insights/wp-c...-by-gender.png

                          (Pornhub's analytics are like the OKCupid blog for the deep end of naughty, it's actually kind of great.)

                          Anyway, with the gender divide and western society's inability to have an open discussion, you can kind of forgive guys for not knowing if women want to be chained up and spanked while voting and being CEO or what. Occasionally somebody makes a pretty sexually honest film that you can learn from. It wasn't these people or Lars von Trier, however.

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                          • #14
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                            imho the crux of this is not a matter of western insensibilities; it's simply the source material is devoid of any organic forward momentum. i think it's fairly obvious the challenge comes from the source material.
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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by nic.h View Post
                              Anything that targets women or girls and is about romance or sex - for women's pleasure, not men's -- tends to engender large amounts of hostility. It's a special kind of hatred.
                              Most of the hate is from women who thinks it's pro abuse and stalking. Men think it's awesome when women are into porn.

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