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Old 05-02-2017, 01:13 PM   #11
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If you don't have a rep, how did you first get in touch with Hallmark? I'm using a prodco that makes some of the movies for them.
Well, I do have reps, but this didn't come in through them (they, in fact, advised against it); it came in via the CE of a prodco.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:00 AM   #12
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About five years ago I did a production polish on a Lifetime movie. If I recall, they paid WGA scale minimum. Check out the Schedule of Minimums on the WGA site, look for basic cable.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:33 AM   #13
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Thanks SPP.

Many of their Christmas movies are made from two companies in Canada that I'm guessing are not WGA signatories.

But this is one of those situations where for a newbie trying to break in with no rep -- you probably have to accept whatever is offered. Even with a rep, it doesn't sound like they can do much. Oh well...
I wasn't sure about Hallmark accepting newbies. I had my eye on trying them because I have a good bit of features completed, and I'm now starting to get my work out there. I have one script that is very much Hallmark but I was under the impression that you have to know someone to get in.

The money isn't that much of a bother to me because I may be close to getting a literary agent (as I also do other writing).
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Old 07-19-2017, 04:15 PM   #14
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I wasn't sure about Hallmark accepting newbies. I had my eye on trying them because I have a good bit of features completed, and I'm now starting to get my work out there. I have one script that is very much Hallmark but I was under the impression that you have to know someone to get in.

The money isn't that much of a bother to me because I may be close to getting a literary agent (as I also do other writing).
I sent something to a production company that works with them and am still waiting (year later) on feedback. For me it's not about the money because I genuinely enjoy writing this feel good stuff.
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Old 07-20-2017, 05:23 AM   #15
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I sent something to a production company that works with them and am still waiting (year later) on feedback. For me it's not about the money because I genuinely enjoy writing this feel good stuff.
Would that be Chesler Perlmutter? They accept stuff for a lot of cable and regular network channels too. Would think that they needed new fresh talent. So maybe I am right -- it is nepotism or having close contacts?
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Old 07-20-2017, 01:41 PM   #16
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The top exec at Hallmark cable said in an interview either earlier this year or last that the Christmas/Family themed movies were very successful for them and will be expanding their offerings.

So it would make sense they would want additional "fresh" writers but I couldn't find (on google) where or whom within Hallmark to pitch to. MAWriter, hope you have better luck.
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:00 AM   #17
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I made around $50-60k for a $2m Lifetime project, but that included purchase, rewrite, and polish. It was also a few years ago.
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Old 07-23-2017, 09:06 PM   #18
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That's close to the 2 1/2% of budget rule-of-thumb I've heard of for payment. But did this include residuals? Are residuals automatically part of the package or do you have to negotiate for it?
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so long as you're working for a WGA signatory company, you don't have to negotiate residuals.
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The top exec at Hallmark cable said in an interview either earlier this year or last that the Christmas/Family themed movies were very successful for them and will be expanding their offerings.

So it would make sense they would want additional "fresh" writers but I couldn't find (on google) where or whom within Hallmark to pitch to. MAWriter, hope you have better luck.
Thanks. Yes I heard the same; Christmas movies bring in decent ratings. I actually haven't tried yet. I have something so I was wondering if it would be worth it to engage them.

I don't believe you can pitch directly to Hallmark. Production companies (usually in Canada) are the ones to contact. I mentioned Chesler Perlmutter on a thread I started about SyFy. CP is listed here but not with much info on updated projects. They're cater to Lifetime and Hallmark crowd. Think I will look for a couple more companies like them and try anyway.
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