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Old 11-02-2019, 07:30 PM   #1
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Depending where one places Mean Streets in Scorsese's oeuvre, The Irishman is either the last in his mob trilogy with De Niro and Pesci that started with Goodfellas and Casino, or the bookend of a career that started in 1973. Either way, similar to Tarantino's Once Upon a Time... earlier this year, the coda on Scorsese's mafia features finds him contemplating the aftermath of the life these men choose as much as the life itself.

We follow Frank Sheeran, a Philly teamster, as he rises the ranks of both the local mob organization and Jimmy Hoffa's union over several decades. Depending how much Frank's accounts are to be believed (apparently he had trouble telling the truth about what time of day it was), that journey culminated in the disappearance of Hoffa -- murdered -- from a Detroit steakhouse parking lot in 1975.

Maybe it's because Netflix was paying for the $160m production (the CGI de-aging of De Niro, Pesci, and Pacino is largely convincing) but as compelling as the story is, Scorsese's direction itself lacks the visceral energy of Goodfellas or Casino. No widescreen photography, no one-take tracking shots like Henry escorting Karen to a front row table at the Copa. Instead, seemingly framed for a TV or mobile screen, we get endless one-shots of the main characters' giant heads and time-worn faces.
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Old 11-04-2019, 06:02 AM   #2
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Where are you seeing this? Is it out in cinemas now?
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Old 11-04-2019, 10:54 AM   #3
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Where are you seeing this? Is it out in cinemas now?
it's playing in a limited number of theaters for the next two weeks before it drops on Netflix. here in LA, the Egyptian (which Netflix bought) is running it. many Landmark cinemas also
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Old 11-04-2019, 11:57 AM   #4
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Ahh okay. I don't live in the US, so it's only coming to streaming here in about three weeks. That's a pretty damn long film for the cinema.
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:33 PM   #5
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Ahh okay. I don't live in the US, so it's only coming to streaming here in about three weeks. That's a pretty damn long film for the cinema.
It doesn't really feel it until maybe the last 30-45 mins. Not as propulsive to the finish line as Casino or Goodfellas but that's also kind of the point of it.
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:23 PM   #6
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ICYMI, for those in the NY area, "The Irishman" is being screened at Broadway's Belasco Theater through 12/1. Guilliermo del Toro calls the film a masterpiece on Twitter today. Assuming this will get a number of Oscar nominations and that Spielberg's campaign to shut streamed films out of the AAs will go by the wayside.
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:52 PM   #7
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No widescreen photography, no one-take tracking shots like Henry escorting Karen to a front row table at the Copa. Instead, seemingly framed for a TV or mobile screen, we get endless one-shots of the main characters' giant heads and time-worn faces.
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Assuming ... that Spielberg's campaign to shut streamed films out of the AAs will go by the wayside.
Scorsese is a master, so he gets two thumbs up from me every time on every one of his films, no matter what (Yes, even Boxcar Bertha). Yes, Netflix ponied up the bucks, so it’s likely they made the calls on the “look” (shots). Probably Martin Scorsese was told to keep it tight for tablets and cell phones, but I hope not.

And I agree with Steven Spielberg, too. It was difficult enough to win an Academy Award before streaming digital content came walking, trotting, cantering, then galloping along. Create a different award venue for streamed films, maybe “The Streamers.”
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Old 11-27-2019, 03:45 PM   #8
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Wow. Saw The Irishman on Netflix today. It’s a cinematic masterpiece, all right, or perhaps I ought to say that it’s another cinematic masterpiece by Martin Scorsese.

Not only is the story excellent, but the three main characters grow old before our eyes, a real gem of a trick and another progressive technological treat in Hollywood’s long history of pulling from its cinematic magic bag of special effects to tell a story more effectively and more believably.

The period details are superb — the beautiful cars, the signage, the locations, the costumes — all perfect for each of the periods represented. My only regret was that I was unable to see the film on a giant movie screen in a theater. Had that been possible, the sense of immersion in the story would have been that much greater.

There was only one of what might have been an editing error — a jump cut when the MC makes a phone call to the wife of the missing Jimmy Hoffa — but the otherwise perfect film more than made up for that single technically-jarring mistake.

In a scene not long after that phone call, the MC runs his car through a car wash, and as the car comes out, a bumper-sticker on the front fender reads, “Where’s Jimmy Hoffa? Call (phone number).” Nice touch.

This time, thankfully, the credits do not get squeezed into the upper left corner of the TV screen as an AI algorithm suggests something else for you to watch based on its perceived preferences of what else you may like.

Also, watch The Irishman: In Conversation after you see the film. It’s enlightening to hear these four greats discuss the making of the film.

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Old 11-28-2019, 11:27 AM   #9
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Well... it starts off slow. I mean slow. And it doesn't seem to really pick up speed or intensity. I fell asleep three times. Missed the end. I will give it a go again, but it just wasn't as good as Good Fellas or Casino, imo.

It could have been cut by half. Some scenes felt long.

The CGI was so distracting for me. You could tell it wasn't really their faces. The younger version of Pacino didn't even look like him. It was like they had a bad case of too much Juviderm, their faces from their nose to their chins never moved. Some weirdshit with their eyes. Distracting.

I thought Pesci was really good.

It just seemed very "quiet." Like I said, I missed some parts. The story is good, though. It's good for TV big screens. Not necessary to see in the theaters, imo, but then, I pretty much stick to thrillers and action for theater-going.
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DeNiro, Pesci, Pacino At The Top Of Their Game In ’The Irishman.’ (X) I approve of the angle of this article.

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