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Old 07-18-2019, 11:52 PM   #71
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Can you hit me with that as well, PM. Curious. Thanks!

Likewise, I used to be here under a different name.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:00 AM   #72
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I have to say there is no perfect manager and the same manager who one person loves, someone else hates.

I was with legit managers and it did not work out for me. And others would swear by them. And others you'd say are sh%t, but maybe doing it for other clients.

Just keep in mind, it's not buying a car or stereo. It's not always the same Paul manager or Paula agent working for you. It's all case by case, person to person.

Keep that in mind. I think people lose site of that. I did!
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Old 07-19-2019, 04:49 AM   #73
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IDK if I'm connected or not. Swear to god. Maybe I am, I honestly don't know where I stand at this point. No bullish!t.

Ahhh... Well in that case, fukk it, go for broke. Skip the ones that ain't right and focus on the legit ones that seem right for you (IMO), while also selling your wares yourself 'feet to ground'.

I truly believe you HAVE to also learn how to be a salesman in this biz AS a writer. I used to hate that part, but now it's my favorite part. Cool... I don't have to write? I can just bulls!t? GREAT! LOL.

IDK... for me, once I did a meeting with a super-star producer, and killed it (Not my words. His. called my rep on my way home with "One of the best meetings I've ever had.") No bullsh!t, this was at SoHo House, Chris Hemsworth was seated at the next table over. I'm like, "Fukk outta here, this is nutz, who the hell do I think I am playing in this arena? But fukk it, I'ma KILL THIS!" After that, I'm not afraid anymore. I don't give a fukk WHO I'm talking to, I'ma kill it! EVERY... TIME!

...All I need is a meeting. I think that's the attitude you gotta walk in with "Let's do grown up business, but fukk it, let's also have fun, otherwise what's the point?"

I don't know. You seem pretty Hollywood entrenched to me. I am more comfortable writing. I enjoy talking to people, but I hate schmoozing with an agenda. It makes me feel tense. I think I'd enjoy the Hollywood meeting because that's more one on one. But, what do you advise a writer to do before they have the power of CAA or some agency behind them to send them to those meetings. How do you hustle before that time?
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Old 07-19-2019, 04:50 AM   #74
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Me, too.



I know it says 'New User' under my name, but I've actually been here a while. I had a different name for a while, too, but it was (very unfortunately) Cosby related so I needed to change it for obvious reasons...

Did it have anything to do with Jello Pudding pops? I swear I haven't touched Jello pudding since. Nor Subway.
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:09 AM   #75
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I have to say there is no perfect manager and the same manager who one person loves, someone else hates.

I was with legit managers and it did not work out for me. And others would swear by them. And others you'd say are sh%t, but maybe doing it for other clients.

Just keep in mind, it's not buying a car or stereo. It's not always the same Paul manager or Paula agent working for you. It's all case by case, person to person.

Keep that in mind. I think people lose site of that. I did!

Ah, but I just want to find that manager that sweeps me off my feet, whisper sweet nothings in my ear that it will all be ok, then make my dreams come true.
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:31 AM   #76
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I don't know. You seem pretty Hollywood entrenched to me. I am more comfortable writing. I enjoy talking to people, but I hate schmoozing with an agenda. It makes me feel tense. I think I'd enjoy the Hollywood meeting because that's more one on one. But, what do you advise a writer to do before they have the power of CAA or some agency behind them to send them to those meetings. How do you hustle before that time?
I think you never have the power of ANYONE on your side, no matter who your reps are. Ultimately YOU are the dude in the room making the sale (usually), unless your property is so huge that you don't need to be there. But, that's pretty rare.

I hate schmoozing too, it's cheesy and fake. So I don't do it. First off, I recommend NOT trying to have an agenda. It comes off more natural, puts people at ease, makes them like you and want to help you. And... I'm genuinely interested in people and their lives, I think they can FEEL it when I talk to them.

For example: If I'm out and I start a convo with someone at a bar (or wherever) and it comes out that they're say, a producer... I'll talk about everything BUT movies. At the end of the convo they'll be like, "you know what, here's my card/number, send me something." Then I'm like "Oh, okay, cool... good meeting you brother!"

I believe that's the correct way to "schmooze" (i.e. DON'T SCHMOOZE! Just talk, just be real. They may or may not reach out to YOU.) Like yesterday, my neighbor picked up the phone for me because he LIKES me, I didn't ask him to.

You want THEM to make the offer to help you. And YOU never mention it.
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Tracking Board is good, IMO. They actively push their finalists. I had the least commercial historical thing possible that was a finalist and a year later a producer contacted me about it. Plus those judges are at least going to read your logline. You’ve got Boxerbaum and guys that are heavy in the spec market who pay attention to it.
wow, i was checking out the loglines for the 2018/19 winners and they are really good. almost all of them i would pay to see. do they ever share the scripts? do you know?
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I think you never have the power of ANYONE on your side, no matter who your reps are. Ultimately YOU are the dude in the room making the sale (usually), unless your property is so huge that you don't need to be there. But, that's pretty rare.

I hate schmoozing too, it's cheesy and fake. So I don't do it. First off, I recommend NOT trying to have an agenda. It comes off more natural, puts people at ease, makes them like you and want to help you. And... I'm genuinely interested in people and their lives, I think they can FEEL it when I talk to them.

For example: If I'm out and I start a convo with someone at a bar (or wherever) and it comes out that they're say, a producer... I'll talk about everything BUT movies. At the end of the convo they'll be like, "you know what, here's my card/number, send me something." Then I'm like "Oh, okay, cool... good meeting you brother!"

I believe that's the correct way to "schmooze" (i.e. DON'T SCHMOOZE! Just talk, just be real. They may or may not reach out to YOU.) Like yesterday, my neighbor picked up the phone for me because he LIKES me, I didn't ask him to.

You want THEM to make the offer to help you. And YOU never mention it.

Good thoughts. Yeah, I seriously hate the fake schmoozing. I've seen it at a few events and it makes my skin crawl. People just flock to the most important people in the room and kind of politely ignore the others.
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