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Old 01-10-2013, 06:45 PM   #61
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Read the blog occasionally, but never commented or read the comments. It'll be interesting to see where this change of gears takes him.

I liked the amateur script of the year post. Would be lovely if those writers gain reads from it -- with no strings.

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He made NR. 7.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:01 PM   #62
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My comment two days ago was not approved. He approved comments that made his detractors sound like angry lunatics, but not mine, which I carefully crafted to be polite and logical - more expressive of my disappointment than anything else.
I take offense to this. I think I came across as a rather even-tempered lunatic.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:04 PM   #63
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He made NR. 7.
I hope it works out for them. I'm sure Carson will be the first to let us know!
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:04 PM   #64
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With SS now announcing that he will refrain considerably from reviewing new specs, I think what's been missing is thanks to those who have been most vocally calling for this change, excuse me if I leave off anyone: John Gary, bitter script reader, Michael botti, Brian scully, Emily Blake and more. This benefits all screenwriters, even if they can't see it yet.
As one of the above mentioned, I was very satisfied to see Carson state his intentions for change. I think what Phase 2 of ScirptShadow will become remains to be seen, and for that reason, I don't think anyone should be calling this a victory just yet.

As has been said before, if he truly focuses his insight onto amateur scripts and released films, I don't think anyone will have any issue with him. That said, his own post still seems to demonstrate a basic lack of understanding of the reasons why people took exception to him. (Or at least, a denial that those issues had any merit.) So I'm not ready to fully credit him with learning anything beyond, "Okay, these guys are making it too hard for me to continue on."

So my approval of his stated plans is tempered by my feeling he didn't really use this as an opportunity to grow - or to educate the many angry members of his flock. It was a little shocking to see those members turn on Karlosd, someone who I had believed was a member of the Scriptshadow family over there. (In a way, that made me understand part of Carson's desire to spin things the way he did - he doesn't what THOSE guys calling for his head too.)

I guess what I'm saying is, let's wait and see how this shakes out. The site's in a transition phase, so let's neither condemn nor celebrate what hasn't happened yet.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:09 PM   #65
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I take offense to this. I think I came across as a rather even-tempered lunatic.
I lol'd.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:30 PM   #66
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Howie:

Sorry that you felt threatened and intimidated by my offer to read your script, give you notes, and pass it on to two partners at UTA and 360. (Yes, the deal was that if I didn't like it, I would post my negative review publicly, like Eads was in the habit of doing.)

I can see how much it upset you - months later, you're bringing it up to score points in a debate, even though I chose not to post my review.

I'll try to remember not to subject anyone else to that horror.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:36 PM   #67
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Jeff - Forum bully.

This place wouldn't be the same without him.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:39 PM   #68
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Your offer, which I thank you for and greatly appreciate the comments I got from, followed my making some points in this debate. I think it’s fair to characterize it as a “put up or shut up” offer, and other peoples’ comments around it suggest they saw it that way also.

I was able to “put up” because I had to hand a screenplay with some credibility, but it was an offer that most amateur screenwriters, including me until a couple of years ago, would have been wise to turn down.

I haven’t got a problem with you making that kind of offer. You’ve earned your status and you can use it to support your viewpoint. However, it’s not reasonable to think that the strident assertions of high profile members here do not cause others to avoid disagreeing with you.
I Lol'd at this post. Lord knows I've locked horns with Lowell in the past so this is not from someone who avoids disagreeing with him.

Seriously? Put up or shut up? I didn't see it like that at all. And you're leaving out a big part of that event-- he never posted his review of your script. He left it up to you to post it (and you did not). Which is a courtesy Scriptshadow failed to offer writers he reviewed. Without permission.

Tell me, the notes Lowell gave you, you think they're worth more than what Carson charges?
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:44 PM   #69
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Wait, Lowell was giving free notes? Jeff, can I have some please?
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Chief...you're not American, are you?
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