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Old 08-16-2019, 12:33 AM   #21
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Thank you all, great info.

Few things:

* I'm doing final or second to final run through right now. I think I can have this locked at last today or tomorrow, so I'll just register the minute it's done, as I don't intend any significant changes until there is (potential) further movement on it.

* It's down to 165 now, and by the end might be a few pages less.

* Yes, I was intending to draw up a well laid-out one-sheet with title, logline, synopsis, etc. and send that around. I have a title, logline, and tagline and have sent those to a few people, and it has jogged interest from everyone I sent it to. So, seems to be working.

* I will copyright register it but not WGA.

* Is it kosher to put other film comparisons? A cross between xx and xx? I've been sending that privately with my logline. I did read about the writer/director of Colossal getting in trouble for referencing Godzilla in his pitches. My references are not "franchises" like that - all one off films which I think help people understand the atmosphere and visual/aural tone. Is this acceptable?
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:06 AM   #22
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Thank you all, great info.

Few things:

* I'm doing final or second to final run through right now. I think I can have this locked at last today or tomorrow, so I'll just register the minute it's done, as I don't intend any significant changes until there is (potential) further movement on it.

* It's down to 165 now, and by the end might be a few pages less.

* Yes, I was intending to draw up a well laid-out one-sheet with title, logline, synopsis, etc. and send that around. I have a title, logline, and tagline and have sent those to a few people, and it has jogged interest from everyone I sent it to. So, seems to be working.

* I will copyright register it but not WGA.

* Is it kosher to put other film comparisons? A cross between xx and xx? I've been sending that privately with my logline. I did read about the writer/director of Colossal getting in trouble for referencing Godzilla in his pitches. My references are not "franchises" like that - all one off films which I think help people understand the atmosphere and visual/aural tone. Is this acceptable?
My longest script ever, upon first release/reads, was a whopping 145 pages. It was my African epic, and almost certainly a 2.5 hour movie. The script is now (5 years later) 118 pages. There are ALWAYS opportunities to reduce the bulk, but they often don't become clear till you've put the thing away for a while... or you let somebody else have a look at it. In other words, it will never e 'locked up'.

(Somewhere on DDPro is a thread about 'shortening your scripts', and there are a lot of cool techniques, many of which just involve formatting and getting rid of widows-orphans, etc.)

Your 'one-sheet' (one page?!) with title, logline, and synopsis"?! Good for you. A synopsis that short, of a 170 page script, is pretty awesome - if it actually tells the story and isn't just a logline. I'd expect that if you have one that has the key beats of the whole story, you'll need one that's a bit longer. Others on this board will tell you not to do one till you're asked, so I'll defer to them, but doing up one now, of 2-3 pages, might also help you find something to trim in your epic.

re: "so I'll just register the minute it's done, as I don't intend any significant changes until there is (potential) further movement on it." Just to confirm: For a copyright you'd never have to re-register it, no matter the number of changes. Why? Because you already own the copyright for the underlying material. However, the Copyright Office will be happy to take your money (again) if you wanted to register another version; it's just not necessary.

As for your q about 'this meets that', there was a long thread this year right here on DDpro about that. It's not an evil thing to ask questions that have already been asked here, but I do think taking almost every DDPro topic (Business Questions and Advice, Screenwriting, Loglines and Queries, etc.) and going through the first two pages at the top level view of of each topic (not through all the individual responses) is going to reward you with a lot of useful info. At the very least, getting the answer by looking through the archives may take less time than posting here and waiting, waiting, waiting for responses. Shows initiative, too!
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:24 AM   #23
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Thanks! Got it all. And I think I found that thread on a search. So sounds like it's okay to do.

I can easily summarize my film, no problem. The logline is one clear sentence. A synopsis of the whole thing, I could probably do in 4-6 sentences. The length of the script doesn't mean it's all over the place. It's pretty focused.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:59 AM   #24
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This place is filled with the same 10 questions over and over and over again. What else are we doing here?

I've always been against the "try search button" responses in any forums. Maybe that's just the teacher in me knowing I asked the questions too years ago and someone else needs help now...

Everything is okay to do that you laid out. It's just all opinion. We all think a shorter script is better, but you're not going to do that, so it's okay.

I sent queries that said R-RATED GOONIES... Or DIE HARD meets CLERKS... whatever... not on script title page, but in emails to pitch people...

I don't know what story you're referring to, but the director didn't' get in real trouble. People do it all day long in Hollywood.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:18 AM   #25
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https://deadline.com/2015/10/godzill...es-1201599094/
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Old 08-16-2019, 10:06 AM   #26
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...* It's down to 165 now, and by the end might be a few pages less. ...
164 now?

I know nothing about your script, but have you thought about it being two stories? Maybe at around page 80 there's a good, exciting break for story #1. Then you can pitch it as a tighter story -- and if it gets some traction maybe mention that you have a sequel, or 'a strong idea' for a sequel.

Hollywood LOVES franchises!
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Old 08-16-2019, 10:09 AM   #27
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Oh well, geez, this was going too far:
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Voltage’s pitch included photos of Godzilla movies and Vigalondo was quoted in an interview that he was going to make “the cheapest Godzilla movie ever.”
I remember on VPF a few years ago, somebody of note was asking for "giant monster stories". But to mention 'Godzilla' in anything other than a writer-to-rep/buyer or peer-to-peer pitch is asking for trouble.

PS. Upon reflection I am quite sure that the 'big monster-seeking company' was Benderspink (before they split)

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Old 08-16-2019, 11:06 AM   #28
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Yes, I tapped out at 164. It's definitely a single-story film. I will do a full readthrough tomorrow to look for any last minute details and finalize it there.

I'll send it out to all my beta readers. I asked them all if they were interested to read the final and all said yes. And I have a list of 6-7 other friends in and around industry who've been interested to read it.

I'm sure it will take at least a few weeks for people to get to it but hopefully I hear something soon.

To be honest, I'm already satisfied that several people liked the earlier draft. And they all helped me improve it too. That's enough for me. My next goal would just be to make it (and properly).

Maybe that will never happen. But I'm happy and proud anyway and can move onto other things now.
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:56 AM   #29
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If this is considered rude or insulting then so be it. I am trying to be cruel in order to be kind. Sending out a 164 page script marks you as a first time amateur who hasn't honed their craft and has done little to no research. Get it down to the 120s, max. Anyone on this board, pro or not, feel differently?
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:00 PM   #30
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This was covered massively in another thread already in the software board.

I know and understand all of this already, don't worry.
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