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Old 12-06-2011, 04:29 PM   #11
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When I come up with a feature idea I think about it and basically assemble the entire film in my head. This can take weeks or sometimes months.

Once I'm convinced there is a movie there and all the main elements are in place, I start writing the screenplay, initially a few hours each weekend and then more frequently as I get into it.

I don't do any written notes, beatsheets or treatments and I'm not a 'write-something-every-day' kind of guy.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:33 AM   #12
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:49 AM   #13
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Hey cigars and cigarettes,

I was thinking about my workflow, and my productivity in general.

This came about because a younger friend of mine wants to start writing "seriously" and asked me what my routine was.

My first answer was "why would you want to get into writing". But when I realized he was serious, so I thought about it.

I spend a long time thinking about ideas. I send e-mails to friends with log lines, mention an idea in passing, send them an article.

Once I have filtered these to 2-3 ideas, I set out to write pretty lengthy treatments for at least two of them. I say I set out because, inevitably, one takes control (usually the first) and that's the one I end up writing.

The screenplay itself comes pretty quickly. Maybe 5-6 weeks.

And then there's re-writing.

However, when I am not writing I have long bouts of nothingness. Days where I basically just... don't write. I'll read, walk around, see movies, go to shows, talk to friends. Basically live the bohemian lifestyle ;-) but in terms of producing pages? Nada.

I guess my M.O. is "on or off". I absolutely cannot relate to people who wake up and write 5-6 pages no matter what. Pages that (I presume) often just exist by themselves, and are not part of a bigger project.

I'm trying to better myself. And be more productive. But in a way my commitment to a project is like dating- you don't want to overdo it at the beginning while you're still figuring out if you like the person. Then you see more of him/her. And once you've realized that there's chemistry and that you like each other, you spend a ton of time together.

Just my thoughts

Would love to hear from you about this.
I'm writing a novel at the moment, so I have to do that 'every day' thing, or I wouldn't get anywhere, so it's early mornings, when it's still dark, and I write even if the ideas aren't flowing, sometimes I'll have a few days of writing which does nothing more than move me towards something better, so it will come out in edit, but it keeps up the discipline, so it's a bit like the gym, it keeps you toned.

WIth scripts, pretty much what hscope, say -- hello hscope btw, hope you're well -- and plan it in my head, and then write at least 25 pages up quickly, if that seems to be working, finish the script as soon as possible whilst the idea is fresh, and that usually means putting other writing on hold, or using the weekends, and doing longer sessions, but ....

None of the above is set in stone, life intrudes, so I've been where you are, the movies, books, and doing other things, but.... if you want to be productive, there's no way around getting those pesky words down, a need to write helps I think, and if you write a lot, it begins to feel 'odd' when you don't write, that becomes like the addiction I get from running, when you don't run, you get guilt and think, 'slacker' and it's a bit like that with writing for me, if I write the guilt and slacker aspect recedes, and so writing becomes a way of getting rid of those uncomfortable feelings.

Stephen King in his popular book says write a lot and read a lot, I think that more or less says it all.

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Old 12-07-2011, 07:39 AM   #14
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I have an idea, or some ideas, and move them around in my mind some time, create some artwork fitting into them (covers and illustrations) which make me dive deeper into the characters and see if I have the right link to them.

When the idea has formed an outline and laid out plotpoints, I start to make basic research for the background, see if this can be done at all.

Then, I just start writing. I tried index cards once and it does not work for me. However, I make character sheets with my people's background.

I tend to rewrite several scenes before the whole thing is done, and then start to rewrite more, until I feel everything falls into the place where it should be. It's a constant process.

As for the writing business in general, I'm always onto something, thinking about stories/scenes or writing them - on paper or keyboard, depends on the situation I'm in at that moment. Mostly, I have several simultaneous writing projects, not all commercial, some just for fun and practice. When it happens I have nothing to write at all... I get the black hole, if you know what I mean. Thanks God, this happens not very often.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:12 AM   #15
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As time has gone by I've created more and more detailed outlines. Then I revise the outline until I've made the best possible decision about every scene.

Then I write - usually on the weekends. I put on my proper playlist - general writing music, action scenes or romantic scenes - and lock myself in my office until I've written as much as I feel like I can write. I try to go for 5 pages. Any time I feel like quitting, I push myself to write one more page, and often I end up writing two or three more.

Then I take notes on all the changes I want to make, then I revise. Then I get notes. Then I do a major rewrite. Then I get more notes. Then I rewrite again. Then I put it down for a week. Then I rewrite again. Then I send it out. Then I think about it and probably rewrite some stuff again because as you know, nothing is ever finished.
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:45 AM   #16
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:47 PM   #17
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I write first thing in the morning powered mainly by coffee. The creativity tends to wear off along with the caffeine.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:15 PM   #18
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I write first thing in the morning powered mainly by coffee. The creativity tends to wear off along with the caffeine.
I've been a night writer as of late. I go to sleep at 4am wake up at noon start writing around 9 or 10pm and like Mr. "monkey man" Dazzler... Spin. Cycle. Repeat. Just not a morning person (since that's when I sleep)
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:39 PM   #19
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Yeah, I understand that. I like writing in the morning because I'm well-rested and my head is clear of the mental detritus of the day. It's funny, I rarely come across writers that prefer writing late afternoons; must be the proximity to dinner.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:45 PM   #20
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When I come up with a feature idea I think about it and basically assemble the entire film in my head. This can take weeks or sometimes months.

Once I'm convinced there is a movie there and all the main elements are in place, I start writing the screenplay, initially a few hours each weekend and then more frequently as I get into it.

I don't do any written notes, beatsheets or treatments and I'm not a 'write-something-every-day' kind of guy.
I think I am the opposite... I feel guilty if I am not tapping on that keyboard. Or scribbling in a notebook. I use Freedom to clock how much time I spend writing each week and in total... I have to be strict with myself. But it's all about finding your own personal workflow I guess. Constructing/assembling the film in my head is something I do too, but in smaller chunks, not the whole thing. I'd start forgetting bits. ;-)
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