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  • #31
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    sc111 - I remember that movie, she was cool in it. Mira recently played in a tv miniseries, something about an artifact, jeez, can't remember, so she's still out there. She actually did some butt-kicking in that series, too.

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    • #32
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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylen_Ross


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      She forged the character out for herself, according to interviews, not wishing to be left out of things by the male actors.
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      • #33
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        Originally posted by Charli View Post
        sc111 - I remember that movie, she was cool in it. Mira recently played in a tv miniseries, something about an artifact, jeez, can't remember, so she's still out there. She actually did some butt-kicking in that series, too.
        Wondered what happened to her. She was good in SUMMER OF SAM as well. Though the movie was ... meh.
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        • #34
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          Annie Starr, GUN CRAZY, 1950.

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          • #35
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            Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by Pipe View Post
              Yeah, something like that would never happen...
              Where was the 110lb woman in that video? I just saw one huge guy and one heavily-muscled 200+lb black belt guy.

              Are you sure you posted the right video?

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              • #37
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                I think the whole woman-beats-up-everyone style action varies in believability from one scenario to another. When you have someone highly trained going against random street thugs, I think you can get away with a woman being a superior fighter over big guys, even several big guys. When she's fighting other special agents or whatever, and she can still kick everyone's as (a la ALIAS, which I loved but which wasn't exactly chockablock with plausibility), it gets to be a bit much. But then again, I have that issue with male-driven action flicks, too, when the hero can fight multiple highly-trained opponents like they're kids running at him on a playground.

                Even if your protag is the baddest ass around, if he/she is fighting trained agents/soldiers/whatever, it's gonna be a battle. Whether the lead is male or female, the most effective fight scenes for me usually involve a) the bad guys getting some serious licks in before the protag triumphs, and b) the protag eventually triumphing not just because of great fighting skills, but because of an awareness of and adaptability to the surroundings that lets them use every resource around them. (This sometimes involves killing someone with a paper product or a vegetable, which does, again, strain credibility, but at least it's creative and shows the protag is thinking in a way that's a few steps ahead of the opponent. And I think, even though it's gotten to be a bit of a cliche, that ability to think-out-of-the-box and use the surroundings is still a good shorthand for what takes someone from being just a well-trained fighter to a superior one.)

                But, yeah, if you've just got some tiny chick demolishing an endless stream of ninjas (who have the courtesy to attack one at a time, which is always nice), it can be pretty hard to swallow.
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                • #38
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                  Originally posted by vmf View Post
                  Where was the 110lb woman in that video? I just saw one huge guy and one heavily-muscled 200+lb black belt guy.

                  Are you sure you posted the right video?
                  Two trained fighters, one was 3x as heavy as the other. How does that not compare?
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                  • #39
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                    Originally posted by Pipe View Post
                    Two trained fighters, one was 3x as heavy as the other. How does that not compare?
                    Because a 210lb male with black belts vs a 600lb guy is much, much, much different than pitting a 110lb female vs. a 330lb martial artist or combat specialist, not to mention that the woman usually takes on multiple assailants in an action movie.

                    3x the weight is not consistently a better thing, as most top open weight fighters are in the 250-300lb range. Otherwise, that fat ass "on Oprah" whale-guy who can't get out of bed would be the toughest guy in the planet.

                    Plus, Female anatomy and musculature is far different than a male's. Men far exceed women in upper arm and shoulder strength, bone density, muscle mass, etc. and no top female athlete can stand against a top male athlete, even in less strenuous sports like tennis (where college players can whip the #1 female player in the world).

                    Show me a real video of a 110lb woman beating on a group of 300lb males and we'll talk.

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                    • #40
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                      Originally posted by vmf View Post
                      Show me a real video of a 110lb woman beating on a group of 300lb males and we'll talk.
                      Obviously you've never seen some of the women in the South and North Korean Special Forces. Their job is to take out any size man and most can do it against several men at once. Doesn't matter how much you weigh or how muscular you are. You are still exposed to the same vital areas as a 110 pound female and will drop like a rock.
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                      • #41
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                        Originally posted by vmf View Post
                        pitting a 110lb female vs. a 330lb martial artist or combat specialist
                        You're missing one of the basic concepts in martial arts - using the weight and power of the opponent against them. Jujitsu is all about turning your opponent's size and strength into their liabilities... and *using* the relatively small size of a Japanese man as a strength. In a situation like this, that 110lb female has the *advantage* over the larger and stronger man... because his size and strength are his weakness in jujitsu.

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                        • #42
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                          I think the main point is this: If two people know how to fight, the chances are that the bigger guy/girl is going to win. Not to say that will always happen, but people that know what they're doing...well, they know what they're doing. So if they're a little bit bigger, they're going to have a little more mass/muscle behind them.

                          And though quickness counts a lot, if you get hit in the right spot on the head, you're going down no matter how many black belts you've got wrapped around your waist.

                          Having said that, I'm willing to suspend disbelief in movies so I don't mind that Batman can take on ten guys at one time (even with that crazy cape that would be a hindrance in real life), or Uma Thurman can take on the Crazy 88s, and STILL have the strength to hold the sword up. It's a movie.

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                          • #43
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                            Bruce Lee could have whooped anybody's ass and he was 5'7, 130.

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                            • #44
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                              The problem with female action heroes is that I spend the whole movie wondering where my dinner is.

                              SHAZAM.

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                              • #45
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                                Judo, Jujitsu, etc is great but if you put Mike Tyson against the 110lb female forget about it. My dad always told me "You can't fight crazy." and that dude is crazy.

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