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Old 02-10-2008, 08:21 PM   #71
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Default Re: Juno - Diablo Cody is pro-choice

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Tabula, free free to call me ignorant, but I can't understand from your previous post if you do think that Juno was "designed" to have a pro-life agenda -- or not. But I think you said it was. Could you please clarify?
And what was that about bombing clinics? Didn't get that, either.
No need to call you "ignorant" ... I was just voicing my reaction to JUNO, and mostly I was just glowing with affection for Ellen Page, rather than making a definitive statement about JUNO's writer's politics.

If you picked up on my ambiguity (open to various interpretations), that's just my ambiguity.

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And ... really ... if one were going to design a movie to secretly slip in very traditional social propaganda, very ... "lets preach right-to-life" to the kids while maintaining a veneer of hipness, for example ...

JUNO is your subversive trojan horse, imo.

Every so often, I have to remind myself: who is culture and who is counter-culture, these days?
If you tell me Diablo Cody says she's "pro-choice" then I'll believe it.

If I suggest that JUNO would be demonstrating itself to be the excellent vehicle to slip some "right to life" messages in under the radar of a not "right-to-life" audience and a liberal "pro-choice" media culture ... that would be the way to do it.

Ex-stripper screenwriter.
Smart-talking, funny, no nonsense character like Juno.
Under the Trojan Horse guise of rebellion, the beating heart of traditional pro-life values.

Sixteen year old girls! Pregnant? Desperate? Become the breeders for the Rich and socially uptight.

Aging males! Abandon your "rock star" dreams (even though your music has paid for that very affluent house ... settle down, abandon your dreams ... NEST) Stay in what may or may not be a loveless or suffocating relationship! DON'T leave your wife while she's pregnant with your baby (oh, except ... she's not pregnant, it's not either of your's baby) ... Grow up by, yeah, selling out?

Make the guy an even bigger slease (but only if we're accepting my CONSERVATIVE PROPAGANDA angle) by suggesting that he's hitting on a sixteen year old girl (though, I'll grant you, I'm unsure if I read that correctly. Was it implied he was hitting on Juno? Certainly I don't think we're meant to think he's leaving his wife because of her. But definitely I think we're meant to think he's CONNECTING with her in a way he doesn't with his wife, right? Juno is reminding him of the cool chicks he HAS lost from his life, the cool dreams he's lost)

hmmmm.

I could go on, suggesting an odd social and cultural agenda hidden in JUNO ... but I suppose that's all been discussed. I came to the movie late, etc.

So ... I'm not saying JUNO is the harbinger of a Republican victory in 2008.

I'm saying, if JUNO is under-the-radar Trojan Horse propaganda ... it is wonderfully subtle, and it mis-directs the eye so that the message stabs directly into the heart unseen.

It's how the Right should design their propaganda.
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Old 02-10-2008, 08:43 PM   #72
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And I thought it was just a terrific little feel good movie...
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Old 02-11-2008, 04:20 AM   #73
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Yeah, tell it to Winston Smith over at the Ministry of Truth.
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:08 AM   #74
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Default Re: Juno - Playing Everywhere Christmas Day

Saw it tonight. It had it's moments like Little Miss Sunshine but nothing I'd write home about.

The stink-eye gag had me in tears though.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:40 AM   #75
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great flick.

anyone who thought this was overhyped was wrong.

ellen paige was adorable.

i really want her now.

but first i must sleep.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:48 AM   #76
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p.s.

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REAL TEENS DO NOT TALK LIKE THE TEENS IN JUNO.
i do/did.

that's all there is to it.

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