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  • #91
    Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

    Originally posted by umo View Post
    Since when does a manufacturer pay to manufacture product? Manufacturers get paid to manufacture.
    I dunno nuthin' about birthin' no babies or about guild agreements, but

    I know a manufacturer who pays to manufacture products. They pay me, because I invented the products. They pay me a licensing fee. And if they don't, they may not manufacture them. Another one pays my brother for the ones he invented. My dad made money the same way. It's called licensing. Or as they said in Spaceballs, "Merchandising!" "Spaceballs the movie or Spaceballs the lunchbox?"

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    • #92
      Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

      Originally posted by umo View Post
      Since when does a manufacturer pay to manufacture product? Manufacturers get paid to manufacture.
      Wow. You've outdone yourself, Umo.

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      • #93
        Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

        Originally posted by Manchester View Post
        I dunno nuthin' about birthin' no babies or about guild agreements, but

        I know a manufacturer who pays to manufacture a product. They pay me, because I invented the product. They pay me a licensing fee. And if they don't, they may not manufacture it. Another one pays my brother for one he invented. My dad made money the same way. It's called licensing. Or as they said in Spaceballs, "Merchandising!" "Spaceballs the movie or Spaceballs the lunchbox?"
        Hi, Manchester. So you sold the licensing fee directly to the manufacterer? May I ask what your cut is as a percentage?

        Does the manufacturer also distribute?

        Thanks!
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        • #94
          Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

          Originally posted by umo View Post

          Since when does a manufacturer pay to manufacture product? Manufacturers get paid to manufacture.
          I can't believe this needs explained....that's why I'm not going to bother.
          "All of us trying to be the camera behind the camera behind the camera. The last story in line. The Truth" Chuck Palahniuk - Haunted

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          • #95
            Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

            Originally posted by prescribe22 View Post
            Wow. You've outdone yourself, Umo.
            I aim to please.
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            • #96
              Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

              Originally posted by umo View Post
              Hi, Manchester. So you sold the licensing fee directly to the manufacterer? May I ask what your cut is as a percentage?

              Does the manufacturer also distribute?

              Thanks!
              No, to get a "license fee", one "licenses". And yes, you may ask, but I shall not answer what my cut is. Typically for consumer products, it's 5%. That's patent licensing, not copyright licensing. Anyway, you said manufactures don't pay. But they do pay me.

              And yes, they distribute.

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              • #97
                Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                Originally posted by umo View Post
                Since when does a manufacturer pay to manufacture product? Manufacturers get paid to manufacture.
                So... you think Paramount pays Hasbro to manufacture Transformer toys? God, they must be losing billions of dollars on merchandising - the more toys that sell, the more the studio loses.

                I don't know how they stay in business. Volume, I guess.

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                • #98
                  Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                  I'm dying...


                  My cheeks hurt from LOLing and smiling really hard.

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                  • #99
                    Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                    In other words, writer compensation is 5% of the "?" amount...an amount paid to the manufacturer.

                    Writer compensation is not tied into the profits of product manufacturing, sales volume or any other form of compensation.

                    The manufacturer GETS PAID for manufacturing the product, the COMPANY gets paid for manufacturing the product, but the writer gets paid only a percentage of the "?" amount.

                    Again, if you guys are happy with this arrangement, then you're all happy.
                    Last edited by umo; 03-21-2011, 05:21 AM. Reason: Wrong word.
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                    • Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                      Originally posted by Hamboogul View Post
                      I'm dying...


                      My cheeks hurt from LOLing and smiling really hard.
                      Me too.
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                      • Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                        Originally posted by umo View Post
                        In other words, writer compensation is 5% of the "Licensing fee" ONLY, which is what is paid to the manufacturer.

                        Writer compensation is not tied into the profits of product manufacturing, sales volume or any other form of compensation.

                        The manufacturer GETS PAID for manufacturing the product, the COMPANY gets paid for the products, but the writer gets paid only a percentage of the licensing fee for the product.

                        Again, if you guys are happy with this arrangement, then you're all happy.
                        Do you understand basic business?

                        When a manufacturer MANUFACTURES a product, it creates INVENTORY.

                        That inventory must now be sold to a CUSTOMER (in this case a middle-man like WAL-MART or TOYS R US).


                        When a company like Pepsi sticks a Star Wars character on its bottle, it pays a licensing fee. But that company still has inventory that it has to sell to a consumer.

                        The company is hoping that the incremental revenue of a licensed product will be greater than the fee paid for the product.

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                        • Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                          Originally posted by Hamboogul View Post
                          Do you understand basic business?

                          When a manufacturer MANUFACTURES a product, it creates INVENTORY.

                          That inventory must now be sold to a CUSTOMER (in this case a middle-man like WAL-MART or TOYS R US).


                          When a company like Pepsi sticks a Star Wars character on its bottle, it pays a licensing fee. But that company still has inventory that it has to sell to a consumer.

                          The company is hoping that the incremental revenue of a licensed product will be greater than the fee paid for the product.
                          Really?
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                          • Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                            Really. I have an econ degree from Harvard. Maybe I'm not qualified to talk about anything screenwriting related, but I do know ECONOMICS 101!!!!!

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                            • Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                              Originally posted by umo View Post
                              In other words, writer compensation is 5% of the "Licensing fee" ONLY, which is what is paid to the manufacturer.

                              Writer compensation is not tied into the profits of product manufacturing, sales volume or any other form of compensation.

                              The manufacturer GETS PAID for manufacturing the product, the COMPANY gets paid for the products, but the writer gets paid only a percentage of the licensing fee for the product.

                              Again, if you guys are happy with this arrangement, then you're all happy.
                              There are many words in those sentences. Very few of them are in the right place.

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                              • Re: This is really depressing (but not unexpected)....

                                Originally posted by Hamboogul View Post
                                Really. I have an econ degree from Harvard. Maybe I'm not qualified to talk about anything screenwriting related, but I do know ECONOMICS 101!!!!!
                                Great. Interpret the clause being discussed.

                                Does the writer benefit, as a percentage of sales or from any other revenue other than 5% of licensing rights paid to the manufactuerer?
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