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Old 05-14-2019, 11:10 AM   #91
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So I got back all 5 Black List evaluations for my script and it was a straight flush. Scores of 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7. I think I'll take a long break before rolling that ten-sided dice again.
Un-freakin-believable.

Meanwhile, somewhere in the Caribbean, Franklin Leonard orders another Mai Tai.
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Old 05-14-2019, 11:38 AM   #92
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Meanwhile, somewhere in the Caribbean, Franklin Leonard orders another Mai Tai.
This one is on me, Franklin.
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Old 05-14-2019, 12:19 PM   #93
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So I got back all 5 Black List evaluations for my script and it was a straight flush. Scores of 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7. I think I'll take a long break before rolling that ten-sided dice again.
ugh, that's not good.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:44 PM   #94
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Quite a long time ago...

(Quick search on DDPro search page... everybody should know how useful this is)

Pitching as a Lottery

I opined what it would be like to spend my discretionary income on lottery tickets, instead of script services.

I barely have money for either, these days, but I do spend that $5 per week on a lottery practically no matter what condition my bank account is in.
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:14 PM   #95
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While we’re on the subject this was one of the reviews I got on there years back that I emailed them about. Still hilarious.

http://messageboard.donedealpro.com/...5&postcount=61
Wow, that is awful.
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Old 05-30-2019, 01:03 AM   #96
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The problem with all for-profit script-listing sites is that the return on investment for writers is dismal. Only a tiny percentage of scripts get read, and an even tinier percentage of listings lead to options, sales, representation, or paying work.

I wrote a blog about what disputing the screenwriting marketplace might look like:

https://lauridonahue.com/disrupting-...tplace-stps-3/
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Old 05-30-2019, 09:56 AM   #97
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The problem with all for-profit script-listing sites is that the return on investment for writers is dismal. Only a tiny percentage of scripts get read, and an even tinier percentage of listings lead to options, sales, representation, or paying work.

I wrote a blog about what disputing the screenwriting marketplace might look like:

https://lauridonahue.com/disrupting-...tplace-stps-3/
and it's no different than a respected screenwriting contest.

when i hear statements about how dismal the chances are with a for-profit screenwriting site, i'm amazed that anyone thinks entering a screenwriting competition is any different. i mean, seriously. chances of winning the Nicholl are "dismal, too."

let's consider a little perspective working off facts.

2018 Nicholl
i think we all agree that the semifinalists are the most important 'winners,' right? here are the results for 2018.

entrants = 6,895
semifinalists = 10
percent chance = 0.0014 or 0.14%
quarter finalists = 226
quarter finalists = 0.0327 or 3.2%

corrected noted: (thank you Greg)
entrants = 6,895 (from the https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-...creenwriters-1
finalists = 10
percent chance = 0.0014 or 0.14%
semifinalists = 149
percent chance = .0216 or 2.16%
quarter finalists = 375
quarter finalists = .0545 or 5.4%


looks dismal to me. one tenth of one percent. and you can ONLY enter ONCE a year. there is an entry fee.

The Black List (website) using this as a comparison because i can access the information.

hosted scripts = 3,747 (rolling annually not once a year)
top monthly = 76 scripts (two ratings required)
percent = 2%
top quarterly = 213 scripts (two ratings required)
percent = 5.6%
top annual = 208 scripts (four ratings required)
percent = 5.5%

*this can result in thousands of views of your script over a year's time. and you can host more scripts as you write them throughout the year. the downside is that there is a fee and it can add up.

these are facts.

the bottom line that seems to elude many is that there just aren't that many amateur writers that are good enough, yet. and the truth is many never will be. you can't blame it on a competition or a for-profit website. it's a simple fact.

these are opportunities to get your work noticed. the chances are always dismal, that's why the reward is so coveted.

just because you write a script doesn't mean you deserve attention for it. you have to earn it. there are no short cuts. it takes perseverance, dedication and discipline.


every writer must follow their own path. something that works for one may not work for the other. i don't waste my time with Nicholl because i know i don't write material that would do well with that competition. that's my choice.

writers should seek opportunities and if that means the only thing you can do is send 300 queries, then that's what you do. if you have the means to do more. do it.

my only advice would be to be cautious about anything that the industry doesn't use or has't heard about. because winning that could be meaningless.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:01 AM   #98
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and it's no different than a respected screenwriting contest.

when i hear statements about how dismal the chances are with a for-profit screenwriting site, i'm amazed that anyone thinks entering a screenwriting competition is any different. i mean, seriously. chances of winning the Nicholl are "dismal, too."
I agree. The odds are dismal no matter how you look at them.

I wrote a blog about that, too.

https://lauridonahue.com/tell-me-the-odds-stps-2/

The point of the disruption blog is to suggest a new model, and one less dependent on reps.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:24 AM   #99
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2018 Nicholl
i think we all agree that the semifinalists are the most important 'winners,' right? here are the results for 2018.

entrants = 6,895
semifinalists = 10
percent chance = 0.0014 or 0.14%
quarter finalists = 226
quarter finalists = 0.0327 or 3.2%

looks dismal to me. one tenth of one percent. and you can ONLY enter ONCE a year. there is an entry fee.

. . .

these are facts.
Things may be dismal, but at least you should make an attempt at being accurate.

About 5% of Nicholl entries advance to the quarterfinals each year.

For about a decade, approximately 150 scripts have reached the semifinals each year.

In 2018, 349 scripts advanced to the quarterfinals, and 151 of those scripts advanced to the semifinals.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:57 PM   #100
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Things may be dismal, but at least you should make an attempt at being accurate.

About 5% of Nicholl entries advance to the quarterfinals each year.

For about a decade, approximately 150 scripts have reached the semifinals each year.

In 2018, 349 scripts advanced to the quarterfinals, and 151 of those scripts advanced to the semifinals.
hey Greg:
no disrespect intended, honestly. i pulled the numbers from the internet and you're right, i did misread the post about the quarterfinalists. my apologies. mistakes do happen. surely you can understand that. it wasn't a deliberate miscalculation.

still the semifinals are just slightly above 2%.

and my comments certainly aren't a dig at the Nicholl fellowship at all, it was a comparison that it's difficult to be the best no matter which resource you use to advance your career.

so, here's the update:

entrants = 6,895 (from the https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-...creenwriters-1
finalists = 10
percent chance = 0.0014 or 0.14%
semifinalists = 149
percent chance = .0216 or 2.16%
quarter finalists = 375
quarter finalists = .0545 or 5.4%


my point wasn't that it's not worth trying, my point is that it's tough all around.
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