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Old 09-28-2011, 10:32 AM   #41
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When I heard about the film, Cowboys and Aliens, I laughed, because the idea flitted across my brain about three years ago when I was toying with other alien ideas. However, that one I did not write down. Maybe it was already floating in the collective consciousness -- prime for the taking.
Cowboys and Aliens sold as a pitch in 1997 and was published as a graphic novel in 2006. In terms of Hollywood it was an idea that had long since been taken.
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:18 AM   #42
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The chances of someone coming up with the same 'gimick idea' for the same show around the SAME time are slim to none. It is more likely that someone who read it - used it. Occam's razor.
Nobody read it.
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:32 AM   #43
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:36 AM   #44
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Cowboys and Aliens sold as a pitch in 1997 and was published as a graphic novel in 2006. In terms of Hollywood it was an idea that had long since been taken.
Is it true some college kid wrote Total Recall?
Also, wasn't there some bull--- over Amistaad?

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Old 09-28-2011, 11:47 AM   #45
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I was going through this old hippie's trash. I found some windowpane acid and a busted manual typewriter.

A month later, Inception!

Damn that Christopher Nolan! Nothing but a dirty thief.
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:07 PM   #46
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Is it true some college kid wrote Total Recall?
Also, wasn't there some bull--- over Amistaad?
Total Recall is based on a Philip K. Dick story. The author who sued Dreamworks over Amistad withdrew her suit with the following comment:

"'After my lawyers had a chance to review Dreamworks' files and other documents and evidence,'' Ms. Chase-Riboud said in a statement released by Dreamworks, ''my lawyers and I concluded that neither Steven Spielberg nor Dreamworks did anything improper, and I instructed my lawyers to conclude this matter in a timely and amicable fashion. I think 'Amistad,' is a splendid piece of work, and I applaud Mr. Spielberg for having the courage to make it.''

This stuff isn't hard to look up--maybe you could try a little Googling before smearing people who do what you supposedly want to do.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:37 PM   #47
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Cowboys and Aliens sold as a pitch in 1997 and was published as a graphic novel in 2006. In terms of Hollywood it was an idea that had long since been taken.
See? I didn't know that. It's not my genre. At the time I had been immersed in rom-coms 'cause being of the chick persuasion I was convinced that was my way in. It wasn't.

So I joked that I should go way out there in genre. Started fooling around with "alien" ideas. One was "Alien on a NYC subway car." I actually wrote a little on that, gave up, told a fellow dd'er (I don't remember who now) he could have the idea if he wanted it. Then I thought, "Hmmm. Aliens and the wild west. Aliens and cowboys." Never did anything about it.

My point is -- I totally believe several different people can independently come up with the same idea. I experienced in the ad biz.

No offense, feline ... but if your idea was based on established TV characters there's a good chance -- more than a good chance -- a staff of writers could come up with your idea having never seen your spec.

Ideas are not the hard part imo -- execution is.

EDITED: Jeeze Louise .. typos and malaprops abound! Maybe I have a brain tumor.
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The chances of someone coming up with the same 'gimick idea' for the same show around the SAME time are slim to none. It is likely that someone who read it - used it. Occam's razor.
It kinda bums me out that you seem to really believe that. Oh well.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:03 PM   #49
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I was going through this old hippie's trash. I found some windowpane acid and a busted manual typewriter.

A month later, Inception!

Damn that Christopher Nolan! Nothing but a dirty thief.
If you're right, all the more better. (Bush's language)

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Old 09-28-2011, 03:36 PM   #50
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The chances of someone coming up with the same 'gimick idea' for the same show around the SAME time are slim to none. It is more likely that someone who read it - used it. Occam's razor.
Not really slim to none. Just shows you're plugged into the show's zeitgeist.

Years back I wanted to write a Without A Trace spec. I asked myself where would be the hardest place for a person to go missing and who would be the worst person to go missing from that place. I came up with Prison and a high-profile skinhead. I wrote it. I sent it to many of the different programs out there, including Warner Bros. That same year, I was called in to interview for WB's program. I didn't make it. I'd heard that some execs from shows read some of the semi-finalists' scripts.

Three months later, Without A Trace did an episode about a high profile skinhead who goes missing from prison.

Occam's Razor: They stole my idea.

Way I look at it? They probably had the same thought process as mine.

Prior to that, I wrote an Alias spec, right after the first season ended. And I sent in to the ABC/Disney fellowship. Second season comes along, their season premiere is my episode down to a T. Details were exactly the same.

Occam's Razor: They stole my idea. Maybe execs read submissions, too?

Way I look at it? I was plugged in to the show's zeitgeist.

I'm not saying it's bad advice to tell people to be cover their asses, as you are, and send through your reps and register it, etc. Everyone should look out for themselves.

I just get amused when people think their stuff gets stolen. No show wants to take that chance, risk that liability. That's why, for the most part, showrunners won't read writers' specs of their own show. So, I'm sorry, I'm highly doubtful that your idea got stolen. But if the experience, as non-nefarious as it sounds, taught you to cover your ass? That's a great lesson to learn!!!
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