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    So how much do you think they'll F this movie up?

    Oldboy is in my eyes one of the best films made, with an ending that will flipping destroy you!

    I personally don't think the American audience is ready for that ending.

    Add to that, Spike Lee is going to direct this film.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSz2StbI5IA

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    Re: Oldboy - American remake

    Originally posted by Chief View Post
    So how much do you think they'll F this movie up?

    Oldboy is in my eyes one of the best films made, with an ending that will flipping destroy you!

    I personally don't think the American audience is ready for that ending.

    Add to that, Spike Lee is going to direct this film.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSz2StbI5IA
    American audience?

    How often do you visit the states? I would assume not often with the above general statement.

    We're a big country...we have room for an Old Boy remake if it's a good movie.

    Sheeit.
    The best way out is always through. - Robert Frost

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    • #3
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      I like the idea that it's going to be a musical.

      - Bill
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      • #4
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        Originally posted by zenplato View Post
        American audience?

        How often do you visit the states? I would assume not often with the above general statement.

        We're a big country...we have room for an Old Boy remake if it's a good movie.

        Sheeit.
        Well, there's a reason why most movies have an upbeat happy 'Hollywood ending'.

        Have you seen Oldboy?

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        • #5
          Re: Oldboy - American remake

          Originally posted by Chief View Post
          Well, there's a reason why most movies have an upbeat happy 'Hollywood ending'.

          Have you seen Oldboy?
          Lived it!

          Yes...SPOILERS



          I know it's his daughter.
          The best way out is always through. - Robert Frost

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          • #6
            Re: Oldboy - American remake

            SPOILERS:

            It has the same plot and some similar scenes as Brain DePalma's OBSESSION.

            - Bill
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            • #7
              Re: Oldboy - American remake

              5 years too late.

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              • #8
                Re: Oldboy - American remake

                Originally posted by Chief View Post
                Well, there's a reason why most movies have an upbeat happy 'Hollywood ending'.
                You mean like Se7en, Chinatown or Leaving Las Vegas?

                Come on Chief...you're killing me smalls,

                A good movie is a good movie.
                The best way out is always through. - Robert Frost

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                • #9
                  Re: Oldboy - American remake

                  Originally posted by zenplato View Post
                  You mean like Se7en, Chinatown or Leaving Las Vegas?

                  Come on Chief...you're killing me smalls,

                  A good movie is a good movie.
                  Seven is exactly proving my point.

                  The ending of the screenplay, with the head in the box, was originally part of an earlier draft that New Line had rejected, instead opting for an ending that involved more traditional elements of a detective thriller film with more action-oriented elements. But when New Line sent David Fincher the screenplay to review for his interest in the project, they accidentally sent him the original screenplay with the head-in-the-box ending. At the time, Fincher had not read a script for a year and a half since after the frustrating experience of making Alien 3; he said, "I thought I'd rather die of colon cancer than do another movie".[2] Fincher eventually agreed to direct Seven because he was drawn to the script, which he found to be a "connect-the-dots movie that delivers about inhumanity. It's psychologically violent. It implies so much, not about why you did but how you did it".[2] He found it more a "mediation on evil" rather than a "police procedural".

                  When New Line realized that they had sent Fincher the wrong draft, the President of Production, Michael De Luca, met with Fincher and noted that there was internal pressure to retain the revised version; De Luca stated that if Fincher promised to produce the movie, they would be able to stay with the head-in-a-box ending.[3] Despite this, producer Kopelson refused to allow the film to include the head-in-a-box scene.[4] Actor Pitt joined Fincher in arguing for keeping this original scene, noting that his previous film Legends of the Fall had its emotional ending cut after negative feedback from test audiences, and refusing to do Seven unless the head-in-the-box scene remained.[5]

                  http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/09/1...th-head-se7en/

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                  • #10
                    Re: Oldboy - American remake

                    Originally posted by Chief View Post
                    Seven is exactly proving my point.
                    Just out of curiosity...how does Se7en end?

                    Uhmm, that's exactly my point,

                    The net result is all that matters; thus validating my logic.
                    The best way out is always through. - Robert Frost

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                    • #11
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                      I think the point is that SE7EN is an exception to the rule for post-seventies Hollywood output. The director and star had to fight their nuts off to get that ending on the screen. Can you name ten major Hollywood pictures made since the seventies that have made it to the screen with a nihilistic ending intact?

                      I'm not talking unhappy endings here. I'm talking "Holy shit, that was messed up" endings.
                      "Forget it, Jake. It's Hollywood."

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                      • #12
                        Re: Oldboy - American remake

                        Originally posted by Signal30 View Post
                        I think the point is that SE7EN is an exception to the rule for post-seventies Hollywood output. The director and star had to fight their nuts off to get that ending on the screen. Can you name ten major Hollywood pictures made since the seventies that have made it to the screen with a nihilistic ending intact?

                        I'm not talking unhappy endings here. I'm talking "Holy shit, that was messed up" endings.
                        The exception???

                        Come on...it is what it is.

                        Again:

                        The Champ
                        Chinatown
                        Kids
                        Leaving Las Vegas
                        8mm
                        Reservoir Dogs
                        Clockwork Orange
                        American Pyscho
                        Boogie Nights (you see the guys **** at the end)
                        The Godfather Part II (he kills his own brother)
                        Cabin in the Woods
                        Body Heat
                        The Postman Always Rings Twice
                        Dance With Wolves
                        F.I.S.T.
                        Donnie Darko
                        The Mist
                        Screamers

                        All these movies have harsh, or nihilistic endings.

                        You can quote all the actors you want, but at the end of the day, it's the movie that got made. Imo, that's all that counts.

                        ETA:

                        Originally posted by wcmartell View Post
                        SPOILERS:

                        It has the same plot and some similar scenes as Brain DePalma's OBSESSION.

                        - Bill
                        Also, your logic that this would be a major Hollywood film is tenuous at best.
                        The best way out is always through. - Robert Frost

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                        • #13
                          Re: Oldboy - American remake

                          Just want to add, 'The Mist' has the harshest ending of any movie I've ever seen. It's f'd up.
                          The best way out is always through. - Robert Frost

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                          • #14
                            Re: Oldboy - American remake

                            Some of those are from the 70s, when nihilistic endings were expected. Some of the others are just downbeat. Clockwork Orange was Brit film. Reservoir Dogs, Kids and Donnie Darko were indies. Cabin in the Woods' ending was camp nihilism. Still, if Hollywood releases on an average about 500 movies a year, and that's what we can come up with for the last forty years, that's still statistically telling.

                            Aside: I thought that the ending of The Mist was so OTT that it became comedy.
                            "Forget it, Jake. It's Hollywood."

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                            • #15
                              Re: Oldboy - American remake

                              Although if you look at something like The Mist or the remake of The Wicker Man, it's probably a good thing that Hollywood stays away from trying horrifying endings...
                              "Forget it, Jake. It's Hollywood."

                              My YouTube channel.

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