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  • #46
    Re: THE KILLING returns

    Originally posted by JoJo View Post
    Nikki, lots of great moments in the past few eps - I think the guy who plays Stan deserves an Emmy nod.

    I too am thinking it might be Richmond after reading that interview... but it seems like a contrived choice - and I think the actor playing the killer should have known all along, that there should have been hints and clues with that character that we can all look back on and say.... ah. ok... but if the actor never was told...


    If it's some obvious, early red-herring like Richmond, I'm going to be pissed.

    I think the better twist is Jamie...
    Except at this point Jamie wouldn't be the twist. The end and the previews for next week made it look like it was Jamie.

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    • #47
      Re: THE KILLING returns

      Originally posted by CthulhuRises View Post
      Except at this point Jamie wouldn't be the twist. The end and the previews for next week made it look like it was Jamie.
      Seemed to imply Jamie or Gwen. Just heard Billy Campbell/Richmond got a new role on a new project that's already in production.

      As for it being Richmond, didn't Linden and Holder establish that Richmond was not the killer because it was logistically impossible for him to leave the B & B, drive to the casino, assault Rosie, get her into his car, drive back to town, switch his car for the campaign car, drive her to the woods, drown her in the campaign car... then how does he get back to the B & B? Walk? How does he explain to Gwen why his car is still downtown? Oh, yeah, he still needs time to fake a suicide.

      I just don't think it was established he left the B & B for that length of time, and then there's the business with the cars..
      "Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again." -[/SIZE] James R. Cook

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      • #48
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        you only want it to be jamie b/c he's the least likable character on the show.

        maybe it's the school teacher. why did they bring him back after he was absent for so many episodes? and then... he's black! lol! oh wait, isn't the mayor's right hand black too. hmmmm! it could be either of them, but we don't even know that second guy. so, it must be the teacher.

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        • #49
          Re: THE KILLING returns

          Originally posted by JoJo View Post
          Seemed to imply Jamie or Gwen. Just heard Billy Campbell/Richmond got a new role on a new project that's already in production.

          As for it being Richmond, didn't Linden and Holder establish that Richmond was not the killer because it was logistically impossible for him to leave the B & B, drive to the casino, assault Rosie, get her into his car, drive back to town, switch his car for the campaign car, drive her to the woods, drown her in the campaign car... then how does he get back to the B & B? Walk? How does he explain to Gwen why his car is still downtown? Oh, yeah, he still needs time to fake a suicide.

          I just don't think it was established he left the B & B for that length of time, and then there's the business with the cars..
          Yes, that would all be established had it happened that way. But they are wrong. The very first scene of The Killing, episode 1/ season 1, showed Rosie running through the woods, away from her attacker. So she wasn't assaulted at the casino.

          He probably only met up with Rosie at the casino. And getting her into his car would be easy if they had pre-planned a meeting. Maybe she only worked there because it gave her easier access to be with him.

          He could've easily just met up with Rosie, and took her away for some rendevous or whatever. And btw...weren't those the same woods on that Indian land?

          Remember last week when that casino lady boss(the Indian woman) called someone and said "They have your key card." It was ASSUMED she called the mayor. I don't believe it. I think she was calling RICHMOND.

          Richmond was probably allowed on that "forbidden" land for whatever reason, and he took Rosie there, and it was there she was killed. That's what I think happened.

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          • #50
            Re: THE KILLING returns

            I don't think it would be Gwen because why would she go through the trouble of helping the cops out with the FBI warrant?

            I sure hope it isn't Richmond since, IMO, that would feel like a cop out -- like it did in the first season when they tried pinning it on him.

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            • #51
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              Originally posted by NikeeGoddess View Post
              you only want it to be jamie b/c he's the least likable character on the show.

              maybe it's the school teacher. why did they bring him back after he was absent for so many episodes? and then... he's black! lol! oh wait, isn't the mayor's right hand black too. hmmmm! it could be either of them, but we don't even know that second guy. so, it must be the teacher.
              I think Jamie is great, not sure why he's so unpopular. He's supposed to be unlikeable, and I think the actor conveys Jamie well.

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              • #52
                Re: THE KILLING returns

                Originally posted by spyder23 View Post
                Remember last week when that casino lady boss(the Indian woman) called someone and said "They have your key card." It was ASSUMED she called the mayor. I don't believe it. I think she was calling RICHMOND.

                Richmond was probably allowed on that "forbidden" land for whatever reason, and he took Rosie there, and it was there she was killed. That's what I think happened.
                It wouldn't explain the hostility between Richmond and the Indian Chief during the Waterfront project meeting -- when Richmond asked her to give the police access to search the casino.

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                • #53
                  Re: THE KILLING returns

                  Originally posted by Why One View Post
                  It wouldn't explain the hostility between Richmond and the Indian Chief during the Waterfront project meeting -- when Richmond asked her to give the police access to search the casino.
                  And wasn't Richmond in front of the cameras at that rally disclosing his suicide attempt when the lady Indian Chief made that call? I didn't see him answer his phone.
                  "Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again." -[/SIZE] James R. Cook

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                  • #54
                    Re: THE KILLING returns

                    Originally posted by spyder23 View Post
                    I think Jamie is great, not sure why he's so unpopular. He's supposed to be unlikeable, and I think the actor conveys Jamie well.
                    I think that actor did a great job in the scenes where he first had to deal with Richmond's disability.

                    To me, Gwen is the least likeable - she was quick to bail on Richmond whereas Jamie stuck by him. But she has a great story line/got some sympathy in her dealings with her dad.

                    The teacher was so badly beaten he needed a neck brace. He was in the hospital all along, but yes, I thought they did kind of forget about him.. glad to see they showed him recovering and now a dad.
                    "Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again." -[/SIZE] James R. Cook

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                    • #55
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                      And wasn't Richmond in front of the cameras at that rally disclosing his suicide attempt when the lady Indian Chief made that call? I didn't see him answer his phone.
                      Very true!

                      I really hope it isn't Richmond since they've set him up to be a different kind of character. To suddenly say to the audience, "Oh by the way, he's Rosie killer," would feel tacked on -- a lame attempt at being subversive, IMO.

                      I hope they don't go all Perry Mason with a "all right I did it! But let me explain why..." confession.

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                      • #56
                        Re: THE KILLING returns

                        Originally posted by JoJo View Post
                        And wasn't Richmond in front of the cameras at that rally disclosing his suicide attempt when the lady Indian Chief made that call? I didn't see him answer his phone.
                        No, he wasn't. Because it was right after this scene(when she made the call), they cut to the mayor who told the lieutenant to pull Linden off the case.(and we all presumed it was because he was "nervous" after he got the call).

                        When Richmond was in front of the cameras, the mayor and his cronies were all sitting around watching him on the tv.

                        So, it's definitely possible she called Richmond.

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                        • #57
                          Re: THE KILLING returns

                          Hmmm.... and Billy Campbell did just sign on with a new show.


                          I still hope it ain't him... based on coming attractions I think they imply it was Gwen's key card, but I bet we find out it was swiped by someone on the Mayor's team and that they did a Watergate-styled break in on Richmond's office...

                          I can totally buy the Mayor as the killer- it's already been set up that he has a thing for teenage girls..
                          "Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again." -[/SIZE] James R. Cook

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                          • #58
                            Re: THE KILLING returns

                            Originally posted by JoJo View Post
                            Hmmm.... and Billy Campbell did just sign on with a new show.


                            I still hope it ain't him... based on coming attractions I think they imply it was Gwen's key card, but I bet we find out it was swiped by someone on the Mayor's team and that they did a Watergate-styled break in on Richmond's office...

                            I can totally buy the Mayor as the killer- it's already been set up that he has a thing for teenage girls..
                            The thing that may have cemented it for me was that quote I think you posted from the actor/actress who when told they were Rosie's killer remarked, "Ok, so I am bad?" I'd been leaning Richmond for a few weeks but once I read that, well I was all-in so to speak.

                            That quote really narrows it down. It can't be the mayor because he's already a crooked assbag, so that actor wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Stan is a bad-guy-turned-good but has a nasty mean streak in him, so it wouldn't shock that actor. Gwen is a loose cannon who deserted Richmond, so she wouldn't be shocked.

                            Who's left? Jamie and Richmond. Not gonna be Ames or Gil because they haven't had that much screen time and it would feel cheap.

                            Richmond makes the most sense(at least to me) because they've portrayed everything he's done as good. He's the people's choice for mayor, he's helpful to the community, his promising the people he'll be there(his suicide speech) and never leave and never quit fighting, he's the grieving husband, etc.

                            Then again, maybe it's Jamie lol. All I know is I can't wait!

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                            • #59
                              Re: THE KILLING returns

                              Agree about the surprising comment/reaction I posted about the interview pointing to Richmond but....

                              Why would Richmond put Rosie's body in one of his own campaign cars (and point the finger of guilt at himself)? And how does one guy drive two cars at once (the car he drove to the B and B (and then drove to the casino?... and the campaign car he snatched from the lot, put Rosie's body in, and then drove it into the lake)?

                              I can see the actor playing Jamie saying, "So, I really am bad?" (meaning I don't think he saw his character as bad from the start in the same way the actors playing Stan or the Mayor would).
                              "Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again." -[/SIZE] James R. Cook

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                              • #60
                                Re: THE KILLING returns

                                Holy sh!t. Am I the only one watching???

                                Linden just made a deal with the Mayor saying she knows it wasn't him...

                                Now Gwen is the next red herring....

                                Lots of fingers of guilt pointing toward Gwen now..

                                And now the fingers of guilt are pointing at Jamie..
                                Last edited by JoJo; 06-10-2012, 05:25 PM.
                                "Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again." -[/SIZE] James R. Cook

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