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Old 09-06-2007, 02:56 AM   #21
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Default Re: Theme examples, rather than just debate.

See we are talking about two different things.

We are in a screenwriters forum. We talk about how to write a script.

Not how we feel about what we watched
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:10 AM   #22
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Disturbia: appearances can be deceiving.
(sings)
transformers, more than meets the eye.
autobots transform from cars and beat up other robots that look like jets and they are all from a place called cybertron.
transformers, more than meets the eye
Micheal bay said to give optimus flames on the side of his truck, cause he thought it would be 'way cool'
transformers, surfs up bro
Megatron was a handgun, but they made him into Galvatron for the movie and killed him so he can never be in the series ever again
transformers, can you say punisher with dolph lundgren

umm, I'll watch Disturbia right now and get back to you.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:46 AM   #23
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Jules is redeemed when he gives up his life of crime
Yeah but jules is the antagonist in the movie.


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this is supported by his getting out of the diner holdup unscathed. In addition, he gives Honey Bunny and Pumpkin a chance at redemption when he ordinarily would have killed them both.
I've kinda hinted around this. the theme is directly tied to the protagonist's goal.

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I agree with whoever said "winning" can't be a movie's theme. Way too vague. Every film has competition on some level, or else it's the most boring film in history.
That was Cuttrug... I think hew won some short competition
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:02 AM   #24
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See we are talking about two different things.

We are in a screenwriters forum. We talk about how to write a script.

Not how we feel about what we watched
That's funny, I thought we were talking about examples of themes in film. Rather than just debate. What could have given me that idea... Oh yeah, the title of the thread.

And Jules isn't the antagonist.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:26 AM   #25
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That's funny, I thought we were talking about examples of themes in film. Rather than just debate. What could have given me that idea... Oh yeah, the title of the thread.

And Jules isn't the antagonist.
my response should explain why he's the antagonist?

"I been sayin' that **** for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a mother****** 'fore you popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some **** this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin', it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. .45 here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or is could by you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that.But that **** ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin'. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd."

"it's the one that says, bad motherfvcker"
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:33 AM   #26
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I'm not sayin' he was right, but you're sayin' a foot massage don't mean nothing, and I'm sayin' it does. I've given a million ladies a million foot massages and they all meant somethin'. We act like they don't, but they do. That's what's so fvckin' cool about 'em.
This sensual thing's goin' on that nobody's talkin about, but you know it and she knows it, fvckin' Tarantino knew it, and Antwan shoulda known fvckin' better.
That's his fvckin' wife, man. He ain't gonna have a sense of humor about that ****.
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That's an interesting point, but let's get into character.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:41 AM   #27
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An antagonist is someone who gets in the way of the protagonist's achieving his or her goal. So by your logic, the protagonists of Pulp Fiction are Honey Bunny and Pumpkin. Or else one of the kids eating Big Kahuna burgers.

It's a multi-protagonist story. Jules is one of them.

Look, CutteRug set up this thread for examples, not debate, so I'm getting out now. Good luck with whatever it is you do.
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:42 AM   #28
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An antagonist is someone who gets in the way of the protagonist's achieving his or her goal. So by your logic, the protagonists of Pulp Fiction are Honey Bunny and Pumpkin. Or else one of the kids eating Big Kahuna burgers.
could be, they enbody protagonist Butch.

and it could also be, that is Marsellus's soul in the briefcase.

Enlish Dave
He's booked

Marsellus
I'm prepared to scour the earth for this motherfvkcer. If Butch goes to Indo China, I want a ****** hidin' in a bowl of rice, ready to pop a cap in his ass.
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What is this fascination with Theme?

I'm feeling 'themed' out already...
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Old 09-06-2007, 07:11 PM   #30
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yeah disturbia theme is Survival

That's the point of the opening scene with his father and the fish surviving and getting away.

Then Kale survives the car crash.

Can he survive the few months under house arrest.

Conclusion - Can he survive and save his mother, unlike his father.


If I was going to write a log line.

Can Kale survive his fathers death, a month of house arrest, and a murderer next door, who's next victim is his own mother.
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