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Old 07-07-2013, 11:16 PM   #1
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Default Major Prodco Exec requested script but need agent or manager

I could use some insight on how to proceed with this situation. I prefer to do it through PM than publicly here,(because of those who choose to hate instead of help) should someone want more information or can get involved to help, please PM me. here is the situation:

A few weeks ago, while attending an event for a mutual friend, my partner came into contact with an executive at a major production company. He wants to read our script, however, he requested to follow company procedure and protocol by submitting it through an agent or manager, as he is not permitted to just read scripts off the cuff. Completely understandable to avoid law suits or violate the companies strict policy.


What is to be expected? Can we get an agent to do a one time submission after reading it without entering into long term contract?

We have a legit, real, request from a major player in the industry, and he has direct access to the chief, so it's even more critical we at least get our script to him to read.

thanks for your feedback, look forward to hearing from you.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:36 AM   #2
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I could use some insight on how to proceed with this situation. I prefer to do it through PM than publicly here,(because of those who choose to hate instead of help) should someone want more information or can get involved to help, please PM me. here is the situation:

A few weeks ago, while attending an event for a mutual friend, my partner came into contact with an executive at a major production company. He wants to read our script, however, he requested to follow company procedure and protocol by submitting it through an agent or manager, as he is not permitted to just read scripts off the cuff. Completely understandable to avoid law suits or violate the companies strict policy.


What is to be expected? Can we get an agent to do a one time submission after reading it without entering into long term contract?

We have a legit, real, request from a major player in the industry, and he has direct access to the chief, so it's even more critical we at least get our script to him to read.

thanks for your feedback, look forward to hearing from you.
That's him passing politely.

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Old 07-08-2013, 02:03 AM   #3
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What is to be expected? Can we get an agent to do a one time submission after reading it without entering into long term contract?

We have a legit, real, request from a major player in the industry, and he has direct access to the chief, so it's even more critical we at least get our script to him to read.

thanks for your feedback, look forward to hearing from you.
Agree with michaelb... if he's saying "That sounds interesting" but at the same time saying, "Submit it just like everyone else," that's a pass. If he really wanted to read it, he would have asked to read it rather than suggesting you follow "company protocol."

To answer your other question, though, I don't know any agents or managers that agree to rep someone on a one-off basis. You can find a rep who doesn't operate with long-term client agreements in place... but that's different than calling someone up and saying, "You don't know me, but I need a rep to send it to this one person. Will you do it?" No offense, and I know it is a big deal for a writer, but even a studio read request is still just a one-off long shot. It would be different if you were submitting a fully-financed movie package or were bringing attachments to the table... but for just a cold read, the reps that are willing to take a random writer and chase a single lead are probably not the kind of reps that a major production company means when they say, "Have your rep submit it."
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:36 AM   #4
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That's him passing politely.

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okay, thanks. I must be misunderstanding the procedure then.

So executives in higher ranking positions under the founder/ceo can just read things on their own time without following procedure then? Wouldn't that jeopardize their position with the company and their employment? And also set the company up for potential lawsuits and claims?
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:43 AM   #5
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Agree with michaelb... if he's saying "That sounds interesting" but at the same time saying, "Submit it just like everyone else," that's a pass. If he really wanted to read it, he would have asked to read it rather than suggesting you follow "company protocol."

To answer your other question, though, I don't know any agents or managers that agree to rep someone on a one-off basis. You can find a rep who doesn't operate with long-term client agreements in place... but that's different than calling someone up and saying, "You don't know me, but I need a rep to send it to this one person. Will you do it?" No offense, and I know it is a big deal for a writer, but even a studio read request is still just a one-off long shot. It would be different if you were submitting a fully-financed movie package or were bringing attachments to the table... but for just a cold read, the reps that are willing to take a random writer and chase a single lead are probably not the kind of reps that a major production company means when they say, "Have your rep submit it."

correct. I can see how it goes both ways and is a tough situation for both parties. Looks like I need to move to LA and start building some relationships, because without a major interest from someone of influence who likes the script, or an under current of a buzz from a major contest win, or maybe high marks on any of the major websites and review companies out there (they will go unnamed, but we know who I'm referring to) the odds of just finding a manager or agent are slimmer than none in my opinion.

But I love a challenge, it's in my nature! White House Down is in theaters now, and I just watched Burt Wonderstone last night so there is hope for a script to sell and be made into a movie, that's all I need to see.

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Old 07-08-2013, 07:33 AM   #6
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It goes both ways. Writers also use "Send the material to my agents and I'll take a look" as a way to politely pass. Because what writer is going to say no to an OWA from Peter Chernin? But from a "producer" with a webisode on YouTube... probably not.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:35 AM   #7
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Well, you could try to have it submitted via an entertainment lawyer...but I'm going to disagree slightly with the other posters. To me, it sounds more like a punt than a pass.
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Well, you could try to have it submitted via an entertainment lawyer...but I'm going to disagree slightly with the other posters. To me, it sounds more like a punt than a pass.
You're still going to run into the same issue with an entertainment lawyer as a manager or agent. The kind of rep (any rep) who's in the business of sending out a one-off script for a person who isn't really a client probably isn't the kind of rep this guy means when he says, "Have a rep submit your work." That's not an invitation to just find anyone who calls himself a rep send it on their company stationery... it's a nice way of saying, "I don't know you, so have someone who's opinion I trust send me the script and tell me it's worth my time."

And, IMHO, a punt is a nice way of saying a pass. Maybe, maybe you find a rep they trust and that rep submits it through "proper channels" and that means the script goes to an intern or reader who loves it and sends it to an assistant who loves it and sends it to his boss who loves it and sends it to his boss, who loves and it sends it to his boss (the original point of contact)... but that doesn't change the fact that the original point of contact passed on the opportunity to read it the first time.

That doesn't mean the original point of contact will never, ever read it again... but a read request is a "yes or no" situation. I know that there are times when we all try to contextualize feedback or read deeper meaning into a situation, but the honest truth is that if he's not saying, "Yes, I'd like to read it," he's really saying "no," regardless of how nicely he says it or how much hope there seems to be in finding a creative way around it.

BTW, please understand that I'm not trying to be needlessly negative or critical... it's just that I see so many writers waste so much time chasing down "leads" that really aren't all that interested in the first place. If someone really wants to read your script, they'll ask to read your script. If they're not asking to read your script... they don't want to read your script, and it's a better use of a writer's time to figure out who else might be interested in their script (or another script that person might be interested in) than it is trying to parse the response looking for a way in. I've seen too many writers waste too much time doing that, only to figure out they're being killed by kindness and were chasing a dead end.

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Old 07-08-2013, 11:09 AM   #9
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Welcome to Hollywood. You have just begun the process known as Dying from Encouragement.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:04 PM   #10
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You're still going to run into the same issue with an entertainment lawyer as a manager or agent. The kind of rep (any rep) who's in the business of sending out a one-off script for a person who isn't really a client probably isn't the kind of rep this guy means when he says, "Have a rep submit your work." That's not an invitation to just find anyone who calls himself a rep send it on their company stationary... it's a nice way of saying, "I don't know you, so have someone who's opinion I trust send me the script and tell me it's worth my time."

And, IMHO, a punt is a nice way of saying a pass. Maybe, maybe you find a rep they trust and that rep submits it through "proper channels" and that means the script goes to an intern or reader who loves it and sends it to an assistant who loves it and sends it to his boss who loves it and sends it to his boss, who loves and it sends it to his boss (the original point of contact)... but that doesn't change the fact that the original point of contact passed on the opportunity to read it the first time.

That doesn't mean the original point of contact will never, ever read it again... but a read request is a "yes or no" situation. I know that there are times when we all try to contextualize feedback or read deeper meaning into a situation, but the honest truth is that if he's not saying, "Yes, I'd like to read it," he's really saying "no," regardless of how nicely he says it or how much hope there seems to be in finding a creative way around it.

BTW, please understand that I'm not trying to be needlessly negative or critical... it's just that I see so many writers waste so much time chasing down "leads" that really aren't all that interested in the first place. If someone really wants to read your script, they'll ask to read your script. If they're not asking to read your script... they don't want to read your script, and it's a better use of a writer's time to figure out who else might be interested in their script (or another script that person might be interested in) than it is trying to parse the response looking for a way in. I've seen too many writers waste too much time doing that, only to figure out they're being killed by kindness and were chasing a dead end.
This.

When I first read the OP post yesterday, without answering because he requested PMs, my first thought was "Oh man... that's a pass and the guy was just trying not to look like a dick." If an exec wants to read your work, he will. He doesn't need it to be submitted by anyone. It has happened to me on a couple of occasions.

Your attitude is great. Just keep moving forward.... and write more while you're pushing this one.
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