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Old 06-26-2016, 09:49 PM   #11
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Yes.

Interesting contrast to another revival, Jurassic World. JW revisited a good-if-not-great original (Jurassic Park) and significantly improved on it, yielding a legitimately great summer movie.
I liked Jurassic Park and thought JW was thoroughly mediocre. There's just something about it... maybe it's how absurd some parts of the story was: Like the lax security for the Super Rex (forgot its name) or how the good guys didn't guess that the Super Rex was part Raptor, or how the girl could outrun the T-rex at the end. Generic paint by numbers movie that won't stand the test of time compared to the original.

I also enjoyed ID4. It's B-grade, but iconic and the special effects were top notch for its time. Just the right mix of CGI and live action IMO.

But after hearing the horrible reviews of IDR, I won't be watching that in theaters.
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:42 AM   #12
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I enjoyed the original as a guilty pleasure when released and was all set to go see this one expecting more of the same, but the poor reviews have put me off. From the trailers it struck me as basically Robotech. Speaking of which, now that I would see in a heartbeat.
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:27 PM   #13
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They should have been more up-front and titled it ...

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Old 06-27-2016, 06:31 PM   #14
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For eg. I honestly hoped when I first heard of a sequel that the story might revolve around harvesting their crashed technology to venture out into the stars in search of their origins. It would take the franchise in a completely fresh direction.
That could have been a great sequel.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:30 PM   #15
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That could have been a great sequel.
But that sounds more like Interstellar 2. Completely different from ID4 which was an alien invasion story.

Too bad China is in the picture now. The trailer didn't even hint at that.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:53 PM   #16
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But that sounds more like Interstellar 2. Completely different from ID4 which was an alien invasion story.

Too bad China is in the picture now. The trailer didn't even hint at that.
Actually, my idea sounds more like Prometheus. Instead of another Alien sequel, Ridley gave us a deep space origin story. And it did pretty well at the BO.

Maybe I'm just a sci-fi buff, but I always thought ID4's backstory had great potential for mining. I always wondered about the other worlds/civilizations the "locust aliens" (which are a very realistic possibility according to Hawking) consumed on their path to Earth. Maybe the sequel could have visited one of those past worlds in re-tracing the aliens origins.
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Old 06-29-2016, 07:57 AM   #17
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Roland Emmerich, along with Paul W.S. Anderson, is the rare filmmaker that started off terrible and somehow became worse with each successive film. For all the hate Michael Bay gets, at least he's a legitimately good cinematographer and even gets decent performances from his lead actors. Almost all of Emmerich's films are miscast, and with the exception of Mel Gibson in The Patriot (virtually the only heavyweight Emmerich has worked with in terms of leads), he's never gotten a commanding lead performance from anyone.
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Old 06-29-2016, 09:28 AM   #18
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I always wondered about the other worlds/civilizations the "locust aliens" (which are a very realistic possibility according to Hawking) consumed on their path to Earth.
That's like total bullsh!t, man. Anyone with half a brain knows the real threat comes from aliens with anti-virus software installed.
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Old 07-01-2016, 09:46 PM   #19
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Is it me or are modern blockbusters being written to the point of utter convolutedness on purpose. It's like the writers are trying to prove how "genius" they are by being able to intertwine 12 characters, 6 subplots and 12 arcs/payoffs.

Will we ever be able to get back to a day when blockbusters had simple story structure? Like Jurassic Park?
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Old 07-08-2016, 09:59 AM   #20
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Popcorn drivel. It felt no worse or better than tons of other stuff out there. On the nose dialogue, I can live with that. My biggest disconnect was that it couldn't find its tone. I felt the same way about the Hobbit movies. Fun to look at, but... zero emotion. Still. It was entertainment.
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