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  • #46
    Re: A question on voice

    Originally posted by darkestbeforedawn View Post
    Wow, I couldn't agree less with you reddery. First off you compared two completely different mediums. If you don't read screenplays how do you know who does or doesn't have a voice?

    DD
    1st off I don't know how you're DD, post ing on Done Deal pro, figure you might see the redundancy of those initials'.

    My basic point was that I approach, screenplays, as a writer... not that I don't or haven't read screenplays.

    "Don't be concerned with how someone else sold a script, but how you're going to sell your next script."

    Am I going to find material and adapt an amazing novel? Keep a journel during my tour of duty in Iraq? Interview...
    But this wily god never discloses even to the skillful questioner the whole content of his wisdom.

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    • #47
      Re: A question on voice

      I don't know... Not sure I was taking anything out of context. It was the thesis to your argument.

      And if someone like Charlie Kaufman spends his entire formative years as a self-loathing, self-hating, sad sack of a human being, and then brings those experiences into his movies, informing his characters and their journeys, I'm not quite sure how that's different than Conrad spending years on the river and bringing that experience into Heart of Darkness.

      One writer brought an external journey to the page, the other brought an internal journey to the page. Neither one could have written the other.

      To me, that's voice.

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      • #48
        Re: A question on voice

        Originally posted by 1mper1um View Post
        ... That studios, execs and readers are driven to despair by the cloning and lack of originality. Yet this script, awesome as it is, is welcomed with open arms despite it screaming "I'm a Shane Black imposter!"

        How? What? Why? Any ideas?
        I think your key word is "awesome". So many scripts are far far less than awesome and the Shaneisms don't quite hit the mark.

        To me voice isn't so much about recognizing the writer and being able to compare one script to another.

        Voice is about getting a sense of how the writer really feels. It's the beliefs of the writer coming though in the writing. The writer taking a stand.

        edited to add:
        Take the movie Hotel for Dogs. It really gives you the sense of how Jeff feels about family. I don't think that anyone who felt differently could have written that story.
        Last edited by TwoBrad Bradley; 05-15-2011, 09:46 AM.
        "I am the story itself; its source, its voice, its music."
        - Clive Barker, Galilee

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        • #49
          Re: A question on voice

          Originally posted by TwoBrad Bradley View Post
          I think your key word is "awesome". So many scripts are far far less than awesome and the Shaneisms don't quite hit the mark.

          To me voice isn't so much about recognizing the writer and being able to compare one script to another.

          Voice is about getting a sense of how the writer really feels. It's the beliefs of the writer coming though in the writing. The writer taking a stand.

          edited to add:
          Take the movie Hotel for Dogs. It really gives you the sense of how Jeff feels about family. I don't think that anyone who felt differently could have written that story.
          There is a range or spectrum aross which a writer's voice operates, from the macro "It's the beliefs of the writer coming though in the writing. The writer taking a stand," to the manner in which the writer describes things and the nature and quality of their dialogue. A writer's voice shows up in these various parts ... in ways that are appropos the part.

          I'd agree that the single biggest aspect of voice in a screenplay is as you say, the writer coming through, with their value system, their commitment to justice, their resolve about fairness and equity and equality. The great writers tell us stories that inspire us to be better people, 'cause we wanna be like their heroes, who in the end conquer all, and do so while remaining nice guys, the kind of guy you want in your corner. Guys like Rocky or Captain Jack Sparrow or Captain John Miller.

          Now, let me tell you a story ...

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          • #50
            Re: A question on voice

            irony

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            • #51
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              creepy

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              • #52
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                horny

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                • #53
                  Re: A question on voice

                  Stupid.

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                  • #54
                    Re: A question on voice

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