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Old 01-21-2012, 05:49 PM   #11
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Old 01-21-2012, 05:50 PM   #12
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I'm deleting that post because it's horrible to let good convos get trolled into oblivion. DELETE CRAIG! AND IGNORE!

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I do think that some of the conversations are awesome. And when you get a bunch of working writers, up and coming writers, and hungry writers engaged in earnest, the end result is better than a lot of what you'd get at a top film school. The dialogue swings from personal methodology to broad creative philosophy to obscure topics in one thread.
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Old 01-21-2012, 05:51 PM   #13
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For your consideration:

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Old 01-21-2012, 05:56 PM   #14
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I do think that some of the conversations are awesome. And when you get a bunch of working writers, up and coming writers, and hungry writers engaged in earnest, the end result is better than a lot of what you'd get at a top film school. The dialogue swings from personal methodology to broad creative philosophy to obscure topics in one thread.
I agree. A lot of the time, that's exactly how things work here.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:10 PM   #15
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(I wonder where the O.P. heard the phrase)

A related phrase:
Thematic change. To explain the change the protag (or another character) goes through from being one type of person at the start of the story to a different type of person at the end.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:16 PM   #16
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Central Dramatic Argument.

I like that. It makes sense.

So,

How important is the Central Dramatic Argument when your writing and do find certain stories or genres rely on it more or less than others?

And, is the Central Dramatic Argument something you think about and try to establish before you start outlining/writing or is it something that evolves, and might even change, as your writing?
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:33 PM   #17
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Central Dramatic Argument.

I like that. It makes sense.

So,

How important is the Central Dramatic Argument when your writing and do find certain stories or genres rely on it more or less than others?

And, is the Central Dramatic Argument something you think about and try to establish before you start outlining/writing or is it something that evolves, and might even change, as your writing?
I'm not Craig, but here's a link to an article he wrote on this subject -- reprinted in 2006. Since he uses "Finding Nemo" as an example, the article was probably originally written in 2003 or 2004. Note, Craig Mazin is already using the term "central dramatic argument" in relation to theme (the term is used in his response to a poster).

http://artfulwriter.com/?p=174
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:35 PM   #18
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Not sure what it is, but it has to happen, absolutely has to happen, no later than page twenty seven.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:38 PM   #19
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The rest of the day shall now be devoted to reading everything on that blog. YES! An excuse to not write anymore.
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Old 01-21-2012, 07:00 PM   #20
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(I wonder where the O.P. heard the phrase)
OP read the term in Craig's post in the Plot Point 2 thread.

Thanks, Craig, for clarifying. Thanks, Centos, for the link to Craig's article.
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