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Old 07-16-2020, 10:41 PM   #31
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“Would I pay to watch this in a theater?” is the question I always start with. That doesn’t mean it’s not a fit for a streamer, but let’s think about whether or not the idea will get people excited. Now I think people are less than honest with themselves when answering this question about their own ideas...yes, write what you’re passionate about. But also write something that’s fvcking cool.

I look at my list of ideas from just a few years ago and they are not great. These days it takes a longtime to land on an idea for me. But waiting is worth it, IMO. Because once you figure out something is, actually, a movie...the writing generally comes a lot more easily, in my experience.
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Many (ok, fine - a vast majority) of loglines and ideas I see here just aren’t movies. I mean, they could be a movie. The writing is great. But the elevator pitch/loglines here? Not a movie.

Ideas are fvcking hard. So it’s likely your serial killer logline isn’t great.
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“yet there's no way to accurately calculate which idea will blow away buyers and make them think: Gotta have it.”

I bet I could guess which ideas by non-established writers WON’T sell.
Agreed on all counts.
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Old 07-17-2020, 12:44 AM   #32
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Sounds like you're a writer who is more conceptual. Intuitive writers explore until they find it. I don't think there is only one way to find a good story.
I also explore until I find it; I just don't do the majority of my exploration between FADE IN and FADE OUT. I tend to go from Idea -> Notes -> Outline -> Script. Some writers writers go from Idea -> Script, or from Idea -> Notes -> Script.

Maybe I'm not intuitive, or maybe I'm patient enough to allow for intuition, inspiration, analysis and craft to come together before I start scripting.

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Old 07-17-2020, 02:33 PM   #33
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Keep this in mind as you plot your rise to the top of the screenwriting world.

-- A great idea is one you can explain in one sentence
-- A better idea is one you can explain with just the title
-- The best idea to pick is one that YOU can write better than anyone. This is key.

John August I recall saying if you are choosing which idea to pick -- go with the one with the best ending.

I always pitch my friends first and of course reps if you have them. But pitch anyone.
Just so we are all on the same page with respect to what an idea for a movie is, what do we think the idea behind Jaws was?

What was the idea that led to a logline, story, and script for the movie Jaws?
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:14 PM   #34
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Just so we are all on the same page with respect to what an idea for a movie is, what do we think the idea behind Jaws was?

What was the idea that led to a logline, story, and script for the movie Jaws?
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:21 PM   #35
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The seed for Benchley’s book was some shark attacks in the early 1900s. That’s the seed of the story.
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:36 PM   #36
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I would say the idea was a question. What happens when a shark terrorizes the beach at a resort town?

But Satriales and Crayon, I think we are all on the same track here. In any case, the idea is nowhere near a story, or even a logline.

So I would argue there are no right or wrong ideas. Perhaps right or wrong stories that express an idea.
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So I would argue there are no right or wrong ideas. Perhaps right or wrong stories that express an idea.
As a great philosopher once sang: it ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it - that's what gets results.
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Old 07-17-2020, 04:12 PM   #38
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The play Hamilton is a great example. How hot is the idea of doing a play on the life of Alexander Hamilton? That undeveloped idea is not worth anything.
But it isn't a good or bad idea, is it?

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Old 07-17-2020, 05:27 PM   #39
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The play Hamilton is a great example. How hot is the idea of doing a play on the life of Alexander Hamilton? That undeveloped idea is not worth anything.
But it isn't a good or bad idea, is it?
If you’ve previously won a Tony Award and you are a singular talent, it’s genius.
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Old 07-17-2020, 07:10 PM   #40
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The play Hamilton is a great example. How hot is the idea of doing a play on the life of Alexander Hamilton? That undeveloped idea is not worth anything.
But it isn't a good or bad idea, is it?
It's a bad idea if it doesn't work for 99.9% of the people in the world, right? It could have been called Jefferson or Washington -- the cool concept was retelling american history in his own special way... it's a bad idea unless you're Lin Manuel.
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