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Old 05-17-2018, 11:55 PM   #21
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Alas, the nag still lives.
For example ...

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Michael asks:
Is it ever okay to use the “ing” present tense to describe action? “The Complete Screenwriters Manual” says no, but I don’t buy it.

Monica says:
Thanks, Michael. Great question.

Here’s the deal with what I refer to as active verbs vs. passive verbs and screenwriting. The standard for screenwriting is to use the most evocative verb choice and to write it in the simple present verb tense (“kicks”) as opposed to the present progressive tense (“is kicking”).

The simple present is the more immediate and active form of the present tense. Writing in the simple present tense with active verbs does take some getting used to for new screenwriters because it’s not the way we would write literary prose were we writing a short story or a novel. There are many verb tenses, passive and active, and as writers, we are encouraged to use them all – except in screenwriting. I myself felt somewhat limited by this style when I first started writing screenplays, but now the simple present tense is more intuitive for me.
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Emphasis mine.

http://www.screenwriter-to-screenwri...9D-verb-tense/

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Old 05-18-2018, 07:56 PM   #22
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My work is far from done.
Centos proselytizes to convert a group of rule-addled, would-be screenwriters: You Need a Real Sinner.

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Old 05-19-2018, 07:54 AM   #23
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Centos proselytizes to convert a group of rule-addled, would-be screenwriters: You Need a Real Sinner.
Brothers and sisters -- there are some, even among the elect -- who boast that they are beyond... yes beyond the very words they are obliged to obey. They flaunt the shriveled words and convoluted sentences we are commanded to use and in their place they use ghastly, ostentatious words... descriptive words... words that invoke images! Brothers and sisters -- they brazenly do this in plain site. One recently questioned -- yes -- questioned the very foundational placement of the inciting incident!

The good book... Amen!, leaves no room for doubt on this matter. STC, page 41, paragraph 6: "The inciting incident shall be placed on page twelve, near the top. It shall not be placed on page twelve near the bottom, nor shall it be placed on page twelve in the middle. It shall never be placed on page eleven, neither shall it be placed on page thirteen -- for those would be abominations!"

But brothers and sisters -- brothers and sisters... this is not the lowest depravity that they have fallen into! NO! The chasm is much deeper -- some, in their filth and depravity have questioned even more than the inciting incident. Some have welcomed into their very bosoms, defilement itself -- some have -- mothers, you may want to cover the ears of your children -- some have said their is nothing wrong with the filth of ING!!! They ING their words and think nothing of it! Over and over again they do this, without remorse. Brothers and sisters there is no salvation for these fallen -- how could there be! For as the good book says -- brothers and sisters: "They will be cast into the lake of fire and there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth!"

Uh... I mean. "The people wail! The people's teeth gnash!"

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Old 05-19-2018, 08:28 AM   #24
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The simple present is the more immediate and active form of the present tense. Writing in the simple present tense with active verbs does take some getting used to for new screenwriters because it’s not the way we would write literary prose were we writing a short story or a novel. There are many verb tenses, passive and active, and as writers, we are encouraged to use them all – except in screenwriting. I myself felt somewhat limited by this style when I first started writing screenplays, but now the simple present tense is more intuitive for me.
Eeeeeeeek!

"I myself felt somewhat limited by this style when I first started writing screenplays, but now the simple present tense is more intuitive for me."

Right, just after the lobotomy kicked in?

So to recap: Everything we write should be the best we can do -- EXCEPT screenplays. With screenplays we should tie our literary hands behind our backs and try to scribble words by holding a pencil with our toes. If the result isn't stilted, bland, repetitive, pigeon-Englishy and boring we didn't do something right.
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:44 AM   #25
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Brothers and sisters -- there are some, even among the elect -- who boast that they are beyond... yes beyond the very words they are obliged to obey. They flaunt the shriveled words and convoluted sentences we are commanded to use and in their place they use ghastly, ostentatious words... descriptive words... words that invoke images! Brothers and sisters -- they brazenly do this in plain site. One recently questioned -- yes -- questioned the very foundational placement of the inciting incident!

The good book... Amen!, leaves no room for doubt on this matter. STC, page 41, paragraph 6: "The inciting incident shall be placed on page twelve, near the top. It shall not be placed on page twelve near the bottom, nor shall it be placed on page twelve in the middle. It shall never be placed on page eleven, neither shall it be placed on page thirteen -- for those would be abominations!"

But brothers and sisters -- brothers and sisters... this is not the lowest depravity that they have fallen into! NO! The chasm is much deeper -- some, in their filth and depravity have questioned even more than the inciting incident. Some have welcomed into their very bosoms, defilement itself -- some have -- mothers, you may want to cover the ears of your children -- some have said their is nothing wrong with the filth of ING!!! They ING their words and think nothing of it! Over and over again they do this, without remorse. Brothers and sisters there is no salvation for these fallen -- how could there be! For as the good book says -- brothers and sisters: "They will be cast into the lake of fire and there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth!"

Uh... I mean. "The people wail! The people's teeth gnash!"

Amen!
Write on, brother!
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:44 AM   #26
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Uh... I mean. "The people wail! The people's teeth gnash!"
Amen!
"I saw the light, I saw the light ...

(Ah crap!)

"I SEE the light, I SEE the light ...

(Past tense creeping up on me.)
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:46 AM   #27
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(Past tense creeping up on me.)
Uh ... crap ...

Past tense creeps ...
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:53 AM   #28
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Yes!
1. Because at first glance it's Shane Black's Lethal Weapon.
2. Because I specifically remember reading that for the first time. I read, I flipped the page, "Robots live here?" ... "This is where you'd live when you sell your screenplay?" Who are you, you giant egomaniacal weirdo! Then I kept reading (see?) and read through the whole thing and understand why people were so eager to hand him a million or more for a screenplay. There's voice. You notice it. You're slightly irritated, but after a while it grows on you and he wins you over by the end by telling a great story.

So. Yes. I would keep reading. I did.

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Old 05-19-2018, 12:15 PM   #29
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Write on, brother!
Can I get an Amen?

And now for something gospely from brother Hank.

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Old 05-23-2018, 03:03 PM   #30
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Well, yes, maybe I would keep reading it -- but only out of perverse curiosity, and despite the insufferably overbearing presence of the writer.

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And that rather convenient array of colours bugs me too.
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