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Old 11-21-2019, 05:29 AM   #11
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the difference is that they don't have to search individuals, they search with a pool of 11,000 applicants and with AI that learns, well it's prolly pretty dynamic.

they ask right up front if you're repped by a manager, agent, if you're in the WGA.

there are a list of 70 questions. it's intense. it takes a lot of time and it's difficult because it's not a downloadable file and it's not the easiest to navigate.

it's going to be a combinations of elements that get you selected. the questions are very targeted.

Like this question, for example:



i don't know if i'll try it again. i mean, i do have **** in my background, but i'm not that inclined to share it, you know? i mean, it's not like i grew up in a conflict nation, though some might argue that in this Trump era... sorry, couldn't resist. haha

You're probably right. It takes some of these major contests several months to wade through 9,000 scripts. Can't imagine being able to sift through 11,000 in just a few weeks to get to the finalists they'd call.



Yeah, any of the real * I don't think I"d ever want to share. It might influence the writing, but nothing I'd ever care to share. I don't think I have a ready-made hard luck story to share.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:35 AM   #12
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Friday -- I thought about that, the fact they can just reach out and create a lab using people they find through their contacts.

Unfortunately, I've become really cynical since 2016 and it occurred to me that the open application thing with this lab may be mostly a sham. Imagine (hahaha) you want people to know about your lab, publicize your lab, talk about your lab, want to get into your lab, etc.

What's the cheapest way of advertising it?

Have a "free" open application period. Let people talk it up on Twitter and Reddit, like they actually have a chance. Meanwhile, you've already got an idea of who you want for your lab and you make it seem totally based on merit by picking a couple candidates from the slush.

And I don't think they're using real AI. Many types of AI require a large training corpus to train a statistical engine. That would require reading at least the first bunch of applications and tagging them with a bunch of categories. It's really time consuming. No, I think they're probably using rule-based processing, which is just a fancy name for 'text searching.'

I've almost submitted twice, but at the last minute I held back because I didn't think my application was strong enough, or my video.

They already have a wide reach of agents that can just get on the phone and touch base with these already repped writers or have the contest directors on speed dial. I would think the ones they don't have are the future Mickey Fischers and Vince Gilligans that haven't quite been discovered yet, but are on their way up, steadily climbing the rounds of the contests and showing promise. Not sure what search terms you can use to figure that out. Usually, you have to read the script to see the talent on the page. People can tell you they will have promise, but you won't know until you see how they work on the page.



I've read comments alluding to a 30 second video. I wonder what they would consider to be a great video. It seems like they would pretty much get the same thing over and over again. And for those that try to be different, a lot of times it's a misfire.
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Old 11-21-2019, 10:26 AM   #13
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They already have a wide reach of agents that can just get on the phone and touch base with these already repped writers or have the contest directors on speed dial. I would think the ones they don't have are the future Mickey Fischers and Vince Gilligans that haven't quite been discovered yet, but are on their way up, steadily climbing the rounds of the contests and showing promise. Not sure what search terms you can use to figure that out. Usually, you have to read the script to see the talent on the page. People can tell you they will have promise, but you won't know until you see how they work on the page.



I've read comments alluding to a 30 second video. I wonder what they would consider to be a great video. It seems like they would pretty much get the same thing over and over again. And for those that try to be different, a lot of times it's a misfire.
I don't think the video is used to judge camera/editing skill. It's there so they can confirm what diversity bucket they can put you in.
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:27 AM   #14
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It's there so they can confirm what diversity bucket they can put you in.
yikes! and here, i thought it couldn't get worse.
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:52 AM   #15
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impact 3 creators. not especially diverse. many already well established writers.

https://www.imagine-impact.com/i3-creators
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:55 AM   #16
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Finalact4 -- I hope I'm wrong! But I don't think so.

Sundance Lab is an example of the older system. They ask a brief set of questions and ask you to submit the first five pages of your script. They get around 10-12k entries for the feature film labs. Interns eyeball those pages and then make requests for full scripts. I've heard they ask for full scripts from about 3-5% of the entrants. From the full script round, they do phone interviews and then pare it down to a smaller set of folks who get in person interviews. And then they make the final cut.

This lab is doing the same process, but is using automation to cut down the first round and videos to help with the phone/in person interview step.

It's not necessarily nefarious -- Sundance probably used the in-person interview for the same reasons. It just feels less obvious.

I do think there is a legitimate chance to get into the II lab if your pages are fantastic AND you have the right profile for the lab. But I don't think the selection process is just on pages alone.

The problem with the Imagine Impact process is that they could miss some good candidates if they fall outside the parameters whereas the Sundance Lab process is less likely to miss candidates.

I've done the Sundance process four times, and my full script has been requested twice. So I know someone actually read my pages, at least when I submitted. As my application in general was pretty average.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:20 PM   #17
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impact 3 creators. not especially diverse. many already well established writers.

https://www.imagine-impact.com/i3-creators
You're right. It's not as diverse as I would think it would be. Most are already in the business, in some form. Only two don't have credits.
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Old 01-07-2020, 12:45 PM   #18
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Anyone heard if Impact 4 is happening soon? I believe it was around this time that Impact 2 opened up for applications.
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I hope not. I wouldn't be ready for several months.
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