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Old 07-28-2010, 12:55 PM   #31
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Iíve been attending the WGA Genre series and listening to advice from the most successful writers in Hollywood right now. While they have touched (whined) upon the current state of the business, they have all a greed that the $1-$10 million market is thriving and it can only get better.
Paging Dr. Freud, paging Dr. Freud.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:05 PM   #32
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:34 PM   #33
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Iíve been attending the WGA Genre series and listening to advice from the most successful writers in Hollywood right now. While they have touched (whined) upon the current state of the business, they have all a greed that the $1-$10 million market is thriving and it can only get better.
Wait. This is opposite of what they said at the FIND Filmmakers Forum.

What did Dr. Freud have to say about it?
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:39 PM   #34
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Wait. This is opposite of what they said at the FIND Filmmakers Forum.

What did Dr. Freud have to say about it?
Right. The tide is turning...that's what Wimmer and Petrie said. If you're gonna believe rich, successful Hollywood insiders.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:53 PM   #35
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The more it settles in the more I am convincing myself that the real strength of the tentpole film these days is the appeal to kids of all ages, and their families.. the McDonald's model (and some would argue the same quality of film), meaning a potenitally viable but not guaranteed business on it's own, but a powerhouse when you can model it so it leverages the dynamic of parents and kids being a package deal.

... maybe I'm not typical but my son is 15 now and a gamer since the age of 7 (do I hear the footsteps of child protective coming after me?) He would never consider a walk in the park, going fishing, or any other free outdoor (or indoor) activity...

But going to see Pirates, or Avitar, or pick your favorite tentpole and he's totally on board, and my wife and I are taking him and maybe a friend or two.... an automatic 3 - 5tickets.

So at least for a considerable percentage of the tentpole market the model the studios seem to have figured out is:

a. a generation that has grown up being highly stimulated by technology

b. bells and whistles have replaced a lot of lower cost recreation for many, and the bells and whistles these days are better than they've ever been in theaters

c. parents are looking to get kids out of the house, and if the have to spend some money, to make it as reasonable as possible (plus no parking fee at movie theaters -- yet!) and it's a bonus if it's something they can reasonably enjoy watching too.

So pick your favorite tentpole... I'll bet it fits this model, and it's probably no accident that virtually no tentpoles are rated R (yes Watchmen, but that had market issues of it's own as much as I loved it).

Now of course this is not the only group seeing tentpoles (just as families are not the only McDonald's patrons, but if Ronald's only catered to the indie audience demographic it would have gone under decades ago), BUT as long as there are families, and as long as video games, computers and other technology contribute greatly to our entertainment landscape...

a McTentpole is a very logical extension of what entertainment has become to many; a value driven afternoon or evening out where form is often more important than substance.
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Re. your Freudian slip "...all a greed" vs. "all agreed".
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:27 AM   #37
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Indies are dying or dead - they closed the doors at Miramax, and most of the indie distribs that were strong ten years ago are out of business... because people seem less interested in seeing those films right now
Interesting story today

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Old 07-30-2010, 10:39 AM   #38
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Sheesh. And he even enlarged and bolded it and I didn't get it.
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Old 07-31-2010, 05:37 PM   #39
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"The new owners will focus on maximizing the value of Miramax's library, a source familiar with the situation said. No production operations exist at this time and there are no current production plans, the source said."

So Miramax is not going to be a production company, just a source for new BluRays and movies on TV from the existing library.

And is the $1-10m thing based on any data, or just wishful thinking? Since there is little-to-no cinema market for that material right now (with the indie distribs mostly gone) and DVD sales are flat right now - how are films in that budget range thriving?

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Old 07-31-2010, 05:59 PM   #40
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P&A costs run about 300 million on a 200 million budget.
"the average P&A spend for major releases last year topped $37 million" - The Hollywood Reporter, June 10, 2010.

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