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Old 09-26-2019, 03:48 PM   #1
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I am about to send out queries to production companies using a service like Script Mailer or Scriptblaster. They send out to agents also. But I'm not sure if I need an agent or not. I've read a few articles on why an agent isn't needed. I'll be sending queries out for two G-rated childrens fantasy genre scripts that go together in a large series of 12. They were written with a co-writer who might end up writing a few whole scripts in the series for me. I just want to get the movies made. And I just want to take the right steps toward making them happen. Any advice is appreciated.
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:02 PM   #2
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to query production companies? not really (though there are likely to be some who have a blanket "no query" policy and may return it unopened or unread)

(more importantly to me, does your co-writer know you are doing this?)
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:13 PM   #3
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I am about to send out queries to production companies using a service like Script Mailer or Scriptblaster. They send out to agents also. But I'm not sure if I need an agent or not. I've read a few articles on why an agent isn't needed. I'll be sending queries out for two G-rated childrens fantasy genre scripts that go together in a large series of 12. They were written with a co-writer who might end up writing a few whole scripts in the series for me. I just want to get the movies made. And I just want to take the right steps toward making them happen. Any advice is appreciated.
Firstly, I'd save your money on services like those. With a 30 day free trial on IMDB Pro you can do what those companies offer but yourself and for a fraction of the price. Query services are a rip off.

Second, (and If I misread your intent here, I apologize) I'd only query one project at a time.

And third, but most importantly, I think your best bet is actually to try and land a manager who can in turn get you in with some of these places. There are quite a few lit managers out there who specialize in kids & family clients. I personally landed my current manager off the strength of a kids animation script and since signing with him he's facilitated meetings at companies I never would have otherwise been able to get my stuff to.

So my advice is to get IMDB Pro and query managers with kids & family writer clients.
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:28 PM   #4
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Yes, my co-writer does know I am doing this and he is very supportive and encouraging of me.

I meant I have two scripts that are in the same series of twelve to submit. the second one is the first sequel to the first one. And I had read that sending a query for two scripts doubles the chances.

And as for IMDB pro. I actually already used up my free 30 day trial (twice I think) and I tried to send queries to production companies by looking up their email addresses and I was using a paperback directory that is now out of date also. But I didn't receive any replies except from one (which I thought was one of the best) that told me they actually do not accept unsolicited material.

I would very much love to get a manager. But how could I? I'd really like to know. I'm not sure how to look for them on IMDB Pro.

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Old 09-26-2019, 04:55 PM   #5
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Don't use a service.

Look at this website. I've verified a lot of the emails and most 90% are good. This is a great website for you to start looking for managers. It has manager's and agent's valid email addresses. I've added almost every contact to my master.

http://www.scriptanarchy.com/mgr/mgr-C.html

Get the IMDBpro 30 days trial and you can look up each manager and identify who their clients are and what type of material they respond to. I use IMDBpro and Done Deal Pro's main site to cross check and verify.

Start an excel file and keep updating it as you add new contacts.

When you're done with your excel document shoot me a note on "how to query fast" and i can show you two ways that you can send a lot of queries in a short period of time. ie either 400 queries in an hour using your email client with excel, or even sending several hundred (even 1,000) within minutes using "mail merge."

Both methods will allow you to send an email specifically addressed to a person on your excel spreadsheet using the correct email address.

My column titles on my excel look like this... going across, of course.

Response-- I use this to log whether there is a response, declined, or requested a read
Date Q Sent-- the date I sent the query, so i know how much time has passed
Round (A-B-C)-- i send them in waves and color code this list and use underlining to identify a-listers, moderates, boutiques
Name-- have one column just with their first name, another column with both first and last name. the single name column is the one you need as the addressee in mail merge.
Company-- properly spelled and listed complete name
Email Address-- formatted as a link to drive your email client
MAP-- to designate if the contact is a manager, agent, or producer/prodco
Notes-- anything and everything you want to keep track of like who their clients are, what projects they have in dev, etc.

If you're not great at excel i can send you a blank if you'd like, but you might want to create your own format.

IMO, it's a complete waste of money to pay a service when you can access information yourself and send a query for free.

As far as the "series," you only query ONE project at a time. Is this based on an existing IP that is already published or being published soon?

JoeBanks and JS90 are giving you solid advice.

Good luck! And congratulations on such an ambitious project.
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:38 PM   #6
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My series is based on and stars the character of Mr. Wogglebug who is a public domain character but my script and whole series is original by me and I've worked to make exciting for years with multiple co-writers.

I have excel but do not know how to use it. And just how would I locate managers on IMDB Pro, or by the link you gave me, who take clients who write in the genre of kids and family and animation?
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Old 09-26-2019, 06:11 PM   #7
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My series is based on and stars the character of Mr. Wogglebug who is a public domain character but my script and whole series is original by me and I've worked to make exciting for years with multiple co-writers.

I have excel but do not know how to use it. And just how would I locate managers on IMDB Pro, or by the link you gave me, who take clients who write in the genre of kids and family and animation?
Well, the same way everyone else does, you research companies. You can go onto IMDB, find films that are similar to yours, look up who wrote them and produced them and then look each company/person up.

When you look up a writer or director, IMDBPro or DDP (deals or writer' name) will provide their manager, agent, lawyer, producers, talent, studio. Then you look the people up and check out what kinds of clients they have and what type of material they prefer. That way YOU target the people you want.

I think there is a way to filter by genre or type on DDP, but I'm not completely sure because I've never had to use that

It takes time but you are certain who you want to send queries to because you've done the work. It's up to you.

What do you mean by multiple co-writers? That sounds like it might create a problem. How much of the draft you're sending out has each of these other writer's works? How many writers might be able to claim contribution?
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Old 09-26-2019, 06:29 PM   #8
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I just mean I had one co-writer years ago and he left, and then this year I hired a new one and did a whole new draft that doesn't contain any of the former co-writer's work. And I am going to have my co-writer register our scripts, under both our names, of course. The first co-writer I had registered the old draft without my consent and didn't even put my name with his, which led to our breakup.

Doing all that research you described sounds like it could be a lot of hard work. And I may want to consider having someone do it for me.
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:14 PM   #9
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I just mean I had one co-writer years ago and he left, and then this year I hired a new one and did a whole new draft that doesn't contain any of the former co-writer's work. And I am going to have my co-writer register our scripts, under both our names, of course. The first co-writer I had registered the old draft without my consent and didn't even put my name with his, which led to our breakup.

Doing all that research you described sounds like it could be a lot of hard work. And I may want to consider having someone do it for me.
Totally up to you, but at some point you're going to have to do the research to determine for yourself who you want to partner with. If you have the expendable income to throw it at services-- then go for it.

I haven't used a service, but I can't imagine them doing a better job at determining whose the right/best manager to partner with.

Did this new writing partner write the new draft WITH you or did they rewrite your draft on their own?

Good luck.
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:21 PM   #10
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My new writing partner rewrote my original first draft on his own.

And I just downloaded a free list of 130 Hollywood managers divided into sections of those who accept unsolicited material and those who don't from Script Reader Pro. It should come in useful.

And I was wondering, does a manager have to be paid?
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