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Old 09-29-2019, 06:54 AM   #1
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Hello all,


I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on finding an agent for one's first project. It's taken 2 years for me to finish my screenplay - it's come out well - and I've taken the time to craft a strong query as well. But, I am on query #1200 now. I was quite realistic on this perhaps being an outcome, although it is still disappointing to create something good and not be able to sell it. :)


It seems an issue with most of the agencies is they just don't represent screenplays at all. Should I keep trying, do you think? Or should I write a book first or something...?


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Old 09-29-2019, 08:17 AM   #2
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1) write something else
2) you want a manager, not an agent
3) What is your logline? Candidly, Iím guessing itís not strong.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:22 AM   #3
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1) write something else
2) you want a manager, not an agent
3) What is your logline? Candidly, Iím guessing itís not strong.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:32 AM   #4
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It seems an issue with most of the agencies is they just don't represent screenplays at all.
Sounds like you don't know the difference between the two distinct categories of literary agents: in the BOOK world, a literary agent represents just that: novels, works of non-fiction, cookbooks, graphic novels, etc. NOT screenplays.

In the FILM world, i.e. Hollywood primarily, a literary agent is someone who represents screenwriters. So do managers.

You want to find those lists, not the lists of agents who represent book writers.

A good place to start is right here on Done Deal Pro. If you buy a paid membership for something like 30 bucks a year, you have access to all the lists: production companies, agents, managers, and more. You can see who represents what and who, who sold what to who, etc. It's a great research tool.

Like others have said though, first post your query here to get some feedback from people who have been doing this for a long time.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:35 AM   #5
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This is not only for Alexander but for anyone out there writing, trying to find a repping, querying producers, etc.

In 99% of the cases you shouldn't be querying off your first and only script. Get a few scripts under your belt first so that you not only have the experience of writing more than one script but also have a "body work."

Second, please don't tell people or even privately think too much, "My script is great or good." It's not your call. Let others tell you how good it is, because ultimately that's what really counts if you want to work professionally. I've been reading scripts forever now, and the worst scripts I've ever read came from writers who thought their scripts were good or great. Never seems to fail. Be confident. Feel good about your accomplishment having written a script(s). But don't run around telling people how good it is. They will let you know if it is good or not, so to speak. (I know and have known working writers, Oscar nominated, and Oscar winning writers. Never heard them once say, how great they were or how good their scripts were. Their writing did the talking.)

And if you have sent out 1,200 queries and heard nothing, there is almost certainly a "problem" with your logline, your query letter and/or your story/script has a whole.

As others noted above, keep writing some. If you really feel driven to try to get a rep this early, then focus on managers. Even going directly to smaller and even some medium size production companies will probably prove more fruitful than agents at this stage.
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:22 PM   #6
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Will going full Gucci. Ha!

But, yup, same thought. Assume your sh!t sucks until REAL people tell you it ain’t [sh!tty].

Word for word what Will said.

Good luck!

(Ps... “what the fukk u talking ‘bout Gucci. You got signed off your first script.” True. But, I’d read and given notes on my ex’s clients scripts for 10 years previous to that. TEN YEARS!)

Said another way. I’ve written a fukk ton of sh!t and been CLOSE with several projects. Still, I’m certain I don’t know what I’m doing. NEVER assume you’re good. NEVER! EVER!
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Old 09-29-2019, 03:46 PM   #7
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He should absolutely query with his first script if he wants to. Why the hell not? What's the worst that can happen? Nobody will want to read it? They'll read and pass? Guess what, that can happen after 2 or 5 or 10 scripts. At least this way he'll get used to the process and learn something--while he's working on script No. 2.

As for not thinking you're good or never being free to say so, bullsh!t. Most screenwriters act like doormats. What are we supposed to think about what we write? That it's crap? Then why are we even doing it in the first place?
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He should absolutely query with his first script if he wants to. Why the hell not? What's the worst that can happen? Nobody will want to read it? They'll read and pass? Guess what, that can happen after 2 or 5 or 10 scripts. At least this way he'll get used to the process and learn something--while he's working on script No. 2.

As for not thinking you're good or never being free to say so, bullsh!t. Most screenwriters act like doormats. What are we supposed to think about what we write? That it's crap? Then why are we even doing it in the first place?
Sure. Query away. But if the script is no good, you might burn bridges. I never said, don't. I even noted, "If you really feel driven to try to get a rep this early, then focus on managers." Just said usually not the best for the vast majority of writers just starting out and agents are very tough on what & who they want to rep. It's a free country, though, so one has to make the best call for themselves.

And I never said, don't have any confidence in your writing, yourself or your material. Have some. Most if not all writers do, otherwise why would they even try, as you noted. What I noted was don't go around talking about how great you are or how good your script is. It comes off poorly in any situation and any job really. Nobody really likes an overly confident person even if they can back up the talk. Walk the walk. Let your writing do the talking. People will notice if you are good or not. Humility is not bad. Confidence is one thing. Over confidence is whole nother.

Again, do whatever you want. I'm simply offering up advice based on my working experiences. Take or leave it. It's not crap or bullshit advice. I promise you. After running this site and helping writers for 22 years now (this month), I don't throw out advice lightly. I want to see everyone succeed.
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:06 PM   #9
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I just think writers are paranoid and insecure enough as it is, compared to other artists (Dude! Come and check out my new alt metal band! It's gonna rock! Hey guys! I have this tiny part in this off-off-off-off-off-off Broadway play, you should like totally check it out cause it's gonna be awesome!) so it's just one of my pet peeves, sorry.

There are so many threads here where someone is all pumped up after completing their first script, and they ask, What's next?, and everybody says, "OMG, put that script away and write like 10 more before you even THINK of sending them out!"

In my mind, getting something out there is part of the process, and it gets your enthusiasm going. And then getting rejected is also par for the course, and your skin grows a little thicker, and you learn as you go.

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Old 09-30-2019, 04:21 AM   #10
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I'm saying:

Hit 1st gear, 2nd gear, 3rd gear, 4th gear, 5th gear, 10th gear of enthusiasm WHILE you're writing it, then downshift to NUTRAL while you're shopping it.

When you're shopping it take the: "WHO KNOWS?" approach. Do not tell me it's good. Just tell me it's DONE.

But, after 1200 rejections, and no "YES"s maybe it's time to write something ELSE.
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