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  • #31
    Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

    Originally posted by CthulhuRises View Post
    What I want to know is how Will Dunn, writer of Ion, got his script to either Escola (who's he repped by now), or Ridley Scott (who bought his script), considering he had zero produced credits.
    He used honey instead of vinegar.

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    • #32
      Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

      This thread is nothing but Dogtown's revenge. Boom! Locked.
      @TerranceMulloy

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      • #33
        Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

        I am new to Done Deal. Don't know who Dogtown is... In any case, carry on!

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        • #34
          Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

          I have Mike Esola on my facebook. Although he has never requested anything from me. He has responded to a few communications.

          If I had to put money on it, I'd say Esola is going to be a legend.

          What till he decides to write some "tell alls" 30 years from now.

          The guy is pure platinum in every way.

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          • #35
            Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

            Originally posted by Joe Eszterhas Jr. View Post
            I am new to Done Deal. Don't know who Dogtown is... In any case, carry on!
            I thought I knew who Dogtown was, then there were a series of metamorphoses. Now I'm not sure, so this stuff goes over my head, too.

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            • #36
              Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

              Probably becuase you have more important things on your mind. Like putting words on the page instead of being a bulletin board detective.

              Good for you!

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              • #37
                Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

                Originally posted by Joe Eszterhas Jr. View Post
                I have Mike Esola on my facebook. Although he has never requested anything from me. He has responded to a few communications.

                If I had to put money on it, I'd say Esola is going to be a legend.

                What till he decides to write some "tell alls" 30 years from now.

                The guy is pure platinum in every way.
                Are you stalking him?
                Chicks Who Script podcast

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                • #38
                  Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

                  Originally posted by jcgary View Post
                  Yes, obviously he didn't succeed on the merits of his work and the people he's met while he's worked in town. And clearly because they have the same last name, they're related. And yes, the reason you haven't succeeded is because you don't have a family member who works in Hollywood.
                  Clearly you have issues with basic reading comprehension. I never once said, nor did I imply, that the script isn't a good one. I'm sure it's a very well written script. That's a separate issue entirely. The fact is, it doesn't matter how good your script is, it is quite rare to have a writer with zero produced credits get his work in the hands of an agency like WME, or a Pro. Co. like Scott Free Productions. If you don't think that his relative (and let's not play ignorant here, obviously they're related) working for WME helped, then you're insanely naive. He very well could have got the script purchased on his own, I'm simply saying that for him to get it read by WME and Scott Free Pro. is something less likely to happen without a family member working for said agency.

                  Also, I don't think you know me or my level of success, so I'm a bit unclear as to why you chose to put on such an acrid tone with someone you don't know.

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                  • #39
                    Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

                    *HERE'S MIKE ESOLA'S "I WILL NOT BURN YOUR SCRIPT LIKE CAA" APPROACH TO SALES*

                    Some he sold in the last year or so...

                    1. "What Boys Want" sold to New Line
                    A reversed version of What Women Want set in high school where a girl can hear the thoughts of teenage boys.

                    Screenplay by Emily Meyer and Amy Andelson

                    No director attached. No star attached.

                    2. "Call Me Rusty" sold to National Lampoon
                    In a last ditch attempt to bond with his kids, and subsequently clinch a promotion at work, a workaholic single father decides to tag along on his daughter's Spring Break trip to South Beach. NATIONAL LAMPOON'S VACATION for a new generation.

                    Screenplay by Christopher Baldi

                    No director attached. No star attached.

                    3. "Conviction" sold to Warner Bros.
                    After serving five years in prison after a botched heist, a mastermind bank robber is forced by a tenacious FBI agent to entrap his former protege who has embarked on a multi-million-dollar bank-robbing spree.

                    Screenplay by Jon Herman

                    No director attached. No star attached.

                    4. "Ion" sold to Fox 2000
                    Sci-fi, romantic epic about a man who travels to different earths/dimensions in order to find his reincarnated lover. A la AVATAR.

                    Screenplay by Will Dunn

                    No director attached. Channing Tatum to star.

                    5. "High School Reunion"

                    Screenplay by Alan Friedland and Alan Cohen

                    No director attached. No star attached.

                    6. "Last Stand"
                    "Gone in 60 Seconds" and "High Noon" in tone. A cartel leader that uses a Gumpert Apollo, a race car used by drug smugglers, to break out of a courthouse. As he speeds to the Mexican border, the only thing standing in his way is a border-town sheriff and his inexperienced staff.

                    Screenplay by Andrew Knauer

                    No director attached. No star attached.

                    7. "Invasion (Summit)" sold to Summit
                    Alien invasion, in the vein of CLOVERFIELD.

                    Screenplay by Ben Magid

                    No director attached. No star attached.

                    8. "Jackpot"
                    A group of friends in high school win the lottery.

                    Screenplay by Alan Yang

                    No director attached. No star attached.

                    9. "Premature Maturation"
                    BIG, but with an ensemble of middle-schoolers who turn into adults.

                    Screenplay by Sam Pitman and Adam Cole-Kelly

                    No director attached. No star attached.

                    10. "The Last Witch Hunter"
                    In the vein of BLADE and HIGHLANDER, where the last human of his kind responsible for hunting witches must prevent the human race from being overrun.

                    Screenplay by Cory Goodman

                    No director attached. No Star attached.

                    And the list goes on and on.

                    Do you see a pattern?

                    No director attached. No star attached (except in a few instances)
                    Last edited by Joe Eszterhas Jr.; 08-18-2010, 07:56 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

                      I see a pattern. No mention of the writers in your post.

                      Not that they matter to you I guess.

                      And if I were Mike I'd be really creeped out by the way you're throwing his name around on a public message board.

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                      • #41
                        Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

                        I honestly don't know how he can pull this off.

                        CAA would never allow him to serve the writer first and not the uber grossing clients they rep. WME has star wattage just like CAA.

                        He has a good gig going, however he manages to muscle it.

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                        • #42
                          Of skill, nepotism and spec sales.

                          I know Dogtown. Have had numerous beers with him. He is not Will Dunn. He's also not a bad person - just a complex person with a distinctive personality.

                          I have not read ION. It may be crap. But so are a lot of scripts, at the spec stage, that go on to become legendary and amazing projects.

                          I do not know Will Dunn. However, he appears to have made enough friends over a long enough amount of time that people in power trust him enough to work with him. This is not about the screenplay. This is about the screenwriter.

                          There's a lot of speculation in this thread about who knows who, who knows what, and who did what. Speculate all you want - but keep in mind, what you hypothesize and what you know should never be confused.

                          I sincerely hope that some day, a whole bunch of bitter amateurs sit around parsing my big spec sale on the internet. I hope they debate about whether or not I'm related to someone, call my script crap, and observe that talent matters for naught and that it's all about who you know/ who you sleep with/ who you're related to. And I hope they do it with vigor and vim.

                          That way, you see, they'll quit focusing on writing the best goddamn scripts they can and it'll be easier for the rest of us.

                          If that ever happens, everyone will observe that I came out of nowhere. What they *won't* know about is the eight scripts I wrote prior to that one. They won't know about the two options that *weren't* in THR. They won't know about the time spent paintballing with WMEE, the time spent drinking with ICM and the time spent dancing from meeting to meeting and manager to manager. They won't know about every opportunity that *didn't* pan out. They won't know about a dozen years of near-misses.

                          They'll only be able to speculate.

                          I have a really cool dayjob. And today, I got to wire up a Hollywood legend who owns the rights to a property I've loved since I was twelve. And I asked him - "when is X coming out?"

                          "When is X going into production?" he said. "When is X going to find a decent script?"

                          "You know what's wrong with Hollywood?" he continued. "There aren't nearly enough decent writers in this town."

                          This project? In and out of development for ten years. I know of four different writers and two different directors attached to it. What's keeping it from happening?

                          They aren't happy with the script.

                          That's enough to keep me writing for a while. And I won't be worrying about how this guy or that guy or the other guy managed to succeed - I'll simply wish him the best and try to beat him.

                          The rest of y'all can do what you please.

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                          • #43
                            Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

                            Originally posted by Joe Eszterhas Jr. View Post
                            I am new to Done Deal. Don't know who Dogtown is... In any case, carry on!
                            I was kidding.

                            Kinda.
                            @TerranceMulloy

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                            • #44
                              Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

                              Originally posted by jimjimgrande View Post
                              if I were Mike I'd be really creeped out by the way you're throwing his name around on a public message board.
                              You want to know what is really creepy?

                              When people are presented the facts and just don't open their eyes.

                              Attaching talent is NOT the proper way to sell a script if you want to give the script its highest chance at a sale.

                              Rima Greer takes about this in her book at length if the listed sales above are not enough for you.

                              WAKE UP EVERYBODY!

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                              • #45
                                Re: The big agencies will burn your script and not care!

                                Oy.

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