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Old 08-13-2010, 11:52 PM   #21
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"Identify you?" YOU YELLOW BELLIED ENABLER!

Yes, let's keep the names of the abusers out of print so they can continue to use and abuse us.

I've never read such a writer running scared post as yours.

He didn't bash anyone. He stated the events.

He kept his real opinion (whatever that may be) private!
Seriously, was it really worth registering for DD to post this brilliant little screed? Next time why don't you just write in crayon on your computer monitor...
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:46 AM   #22
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The point that I get from this, is: it's one thing to set up a meeting and cancel. That happens. Especially when said meeting is low priority for a very busy person.

But: again, why in the world schedule and then re-schedule a meeting with a writer to then only tell him you don't want to waste HIS time because you are not in a position to take on new clients? WTF man. Don't schedule the meeting in the first place. I mean, DUH.
Once again, I don't know the principals in this situation, but in my experience there's a stretch in most writers' careers where your stuff has promise but isn't strong enough or commercial enough to sell. During that stretch various people may reach out to you--maybe because they want to work with you down the road, maybe just to show support because they understand how hard that particular purgatory can be.

My opinion is that you may as well use that stretch to build a group of fans of you and your work. So when someone reads your stuff and bothers to call you rather than just tossing it in the recycle bin, have a good attitude. Maybe they don't want to work with you today, but who knows where you (or they) will be in five years.

IMO that's business 101. I think it's particularly true in a small town like Hollywood, and it applies to rising producers, directors, and executives as well as writers (believe me, some of those guys have to eat a lot more sh1t than we do on the way up). So just because a manager doesn't want to sign you at that moment doesn't mean there's nothing you can gain from that conversation. Be strategic. And certainly don't burn the bridge because there's no margin in that.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:47 AM   #23
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In this century, get a rep in the 25-35 age range. They're f'n awesome to work with.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:57 AM   #24
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This happens a lot.
This too...

"Eventually I get a pass saying "they loved it but are working on a similiar project". Why request the script? They knew exactly what the story premise was."

Hey, I've done auditions where I read, and after they told me they were really looking for a blonde, which by no stretch of the imagination would you have ever imagined me to be by my picture.

Who knows why? It's what they do here. It will probably happen again with someone else before you're through. She's struggling like the rest of us. She read your script over the weekend and called you. Points in her favor. She didn't say she didn't like it. She liked it. Rejecting someone with at least the courtesy of a phone call to do it is hard. I wouldn't slag her.

(Not that you did, OP. People asked for info and you gave your experience. Just... Sometimes this board gets a little too comfortable knocking people from behind a screen name, when the knockee, trying to run a business, is left hanging out there on the Internet by their real name.)

These are ways of saying no. And I would call it a no with an open door and a welcome mat out. It may feel like a waste of time, but it was far less discourteous than most.

Shrug it off. Move on. These things happen. There's another someone out there for you.

I will very, very gently say arriving two hours early seems a little eager. It would be reasonable for her to expect you to not have even gotten on the freeway yet, even as bad as traffic is here. She was trying to save you a trip that she had no way of knowing you'd already taken.

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Old 08-17-2010, 01:55 AM   #25
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I've met Bettina. I worked with her years ago when she had a deal with Davis Entertainment. I met her again several years later when she had just set up the deal for SNAKES ON A PLANE -- which subsequently got entirely screwed up as a film, but which was indeed a great concept.

The woman's a character and a half. Yowza!! Not saying she's a "perfect" human being or doesn't make mistakes, but she's definitely for real. Whaatever else, she has clout and she has connections.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:30 PM   #26
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Nobody works in this industry until a writer writes.

An A list writer said:

"The screenplay does not guide the way in this town. A movie begins with the means to make a movie (the studio) and the ability to make a movie (the director) and the belief that a movie will return a profit (please get a star to commit, thank you).

Those elements collectively decide, then, what to make; should they choose to empower a certain screenplay, then the screenplay gains power.

A particular screenplay only becomes a guide when it is designated as a guide by the director, studio, and star."


so sick and tired to hear without the writer there is no movie.

so it is without a film loader.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:55 PM   #27
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An A list writer said:

so sick and tired to hear without the writer there is no movie.

so it is without a film loader.
Load that camera and fire away. What are you going to film? What's the story? You'll end up with 24 fps of nothing.

Just because the finances exist to make a film (finances made off the stories of writers) doesn't mean that's the reason films exist.

You're an utter moron if you don't recognize that until a writer writes NOBODY works.

EVERYBODY who has EVER gotten a paycheck in the film industry can thank the writers who make their work possible. That paycheck possible.

I'm sorry you have an inferiority complex about this, but it's a simple fact.

Until a writer writes nobody works.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:04 PM   #28
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Well said Joe! Well said my man!
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:22 PM   #29
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Glad someone's got their head screwed on straight!
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:28 PM   #30
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Joe, I think most writers agree with you their just too afraid to admit it!
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