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Old 08-15-2009, 12:59 PM   #1
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Has anyone had any dealings with CEM (based in Marina Del Rey) or Matthew King-Ringo. They responded favorably to a query I sent out within a matter of hours, and Matthew even called me on the phone to talk.

But some of the things that were said during the conversation raised some serious red flags. Does anyone here know if these guys are legit or simply scammers?
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:43 AM   #2
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I've never had any personal dealings with them... but what kind of things did they say that raised red flags? Maybe we can at least help by telling you if what they're saying sounds legit or shady.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:04 PM   #3
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I've never had any personal dealings with them... but what kind of things did they say that raised red flags? Maybe we can at least help by telling you if what they're saying sounds legit or shady.
They said that they required a budget prepared by a line producer (at my expense) in order to evaluate a script or even a treatment. If I didn't have a line producer handy, they had one they could recommend who charges $4000 per script (of which "they'd pay half [wink, wink]"). If I did have one handy, and they didn't think the budget seemed"professional enough" they'd reject the project in toto.

Sounds like fee-based scammers to me.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:34 PM   #4
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They said that they required a budget prepared by a line producer (at my expense) in order to evaluate a script or even a treatment. If I didn't have a line producer handy, they had one they could recommend who charges $4000 per script (of which "they'd pay half [wink, wink]"). If I did have one handy, and they didn't think the budget seemed"professional enough" they'd reject the project in toto.

Sounds like fee-based scammers to me.
Whoa! Yeah, man...sounds like a scam! I would forget about them and move on with quering "real" producers.

And by the way, I'm from Chicago too. I'm now out in SoCal. But the Chi will always be my home.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:55 PM   #5
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They said that they required a budget prepared by a line producer (at my expense) in order to evaluate a script or even a treatment. If I didn't have a line producer handy, they had one they could recommend who charges $4000 per script (of which "they'd pay half [wink, wink]"). If I did have one handy, and they didn't think the budget seemed"professional enough" they'd reject the project in toto.

Sounds like fee-based scammers to me.
I can't remember the name of the other thread, but this very situation was discussed at length just about a month ago or so. My opinion was, and still is, that while a budget can help make a more appealing package to investors... it is not the writer's responsibility to generate one, either as their own work product or the financial backing for someone else's. I would be more inclined to believe that they're legit if the budget were an optional component... but since the budget is required in order for them to even consider reading a screenplay... and it seems that they've positioned themselves so that you basically have to use their guy or risk outright rejection... to me those are the makings of a scam. Or at least a very shady place to do business.
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:10 PM   #6
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I can't remember the name of the other thread, but this very situation was discussed at length just about a month ago or so. My opinion was, and still is, that while a budget can help make a more appealing package to investors... it is not the writer's responsibility to generate one, either as their own work product or the financial backing for someone else's. I would be more inclined to believe that they're legit if the budget were an optional component... but since the budget is required in order for them to even consider reading a screenplay... and it seems that they've positioned themselves so that you basically have to use their guy or risk outright rejection... to me those are the makings of a scam. Or at least a very shady place to do business.
Thanks! That's what I was thinking, too. Especially after they claimed to be able to bypass development departments and go straight to top execs...especially since the company itself seems to have no credits.
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:17 PM   #7
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Whoa! Yeah, man...sounds like a scam! I would forget about them and move on with quering "real" producers.

And by the way, I'm from Chicago too. I'm now out in SoCal. But the Chi will always be my home.
Actually, I can hardly wait to leave. This city has become so corrupt with taxes and tickets and fees and fines that it's bleeding me dry.

That and my Powerbook G4 was taken on a mugging on July 5.
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Totally sounds like a scam
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I seem to remember having dealings with this guy. You're right to be wary.
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I seem to remember having dealings with this guy. You're right to be wary.
Thanks. What was your experience with him?
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