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Old 08-20-2019, 03:55 AM   #31
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You do realize that "banning all guns" is a fear-mongering tactic used by the NRA lobby to keep them relevant and to distract from commonsense gun safety regulations that a vast majority of Americans (including NRA members) want.

If the standard for a law was that it must "fix" every problem 100%, then we'd have no laws (a libertarian's fantasy). Driver's drive drunk, and execs embezzle, therefore no laws against either? It also makes no sense for one state to ban drunk driving, and its bordering states to allow it. Yet, that's the hodgepodge we have with gun regulations in the US. Hell, it's worse than that. Gun laws within a state vary between counties and cities.


This is a ridiculous statement.

Well said. The NRA always puts out that talking point whenever anyone tries to change the laws to make it more safe. Japan had only 6 shootings in all of one year, like a few years ago.
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:56 AM   #32
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Also, I think all these shootings are starting to affect people. Just the other day, there was mass hysteria in Santa Monica because of sounds of shots. Everyone was running for their lives.
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:42 AM   #33
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I can't stand the NRA but that doesn't make your statement that law changes would change mass murder rates. The guns would still be bought, illegally, there would then be more violence wrapped around the illegal gun trade.

i.e. making opiates illegal has done nothing to keep the US use rate among the worlds highest.

Comparing any Japanese crime stat to a US stat is ridiculous. Virtually every crime category the US exceeds Japan on a 5 to 1 or worse rate. Japan is a homogeneous society with cultural values that cause it's citizens not to partake in the same type of rampant disregard for one another that is rife in the most diverse freedom loving country in the world.

Everyone in America thinks they should have it all and that someone else is keeping it from them. Hence psychos go out an do crazy crap to those they feel define that. You just don't have the same mix in Japan or Sweden, or Switzerland. In addition you have a country (us) based on a many ethnic groups having been screwed over in the past and now we are dealing with that dichotomy.

My question about pistols is simply this. You want certain "assault" weapons banned, I assume. As a former Marine I chuckle at an AR 15 being defined as an assault rifle, however, what law would you pass that would stop someone from using a pistol, or two, to commit mass murder? There is none, so stop kidding yourself that that will fix it. Every mass murderer was willing to break the law so having laws to stop them is moot.

I wouldn't want to live in a country where every state had to run it's laws the same as everyone else. Look at the train wreck that Illinois and California have become and imagine if that was imposed on everyone. No thanks.

And last but not least are you in favor of decriminalization of illegal immigration and more open borders? Just curious because you scoffed at my point that gun control is generally a left leaning political issue, as is open borders. That's just a fact.
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Old 08-20-2019, 11:01 AM   #34
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It’s ****ing idiotic because the god damn good guys in the movie are the deplorables. That’s the whole ****ing hook. Preposterous.
i was sort of shocked by that as well. the purge did very well at the box office. i'm sure this will be released in the near future.
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:22 PM   #35
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No. What's ridiculous is pretending that making it harder to buy these assault rifles wouldn't reduce the availability to some of these mass shooters, who are not always sophisticated criminals. The argument that there isn't a law that can curb the violence is just right out of the NRA talking points memo.
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:55 AM   #36
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I've been putting a lot of thought into this and I think I have the perfect solution.

Why not just make murder illegal?

Such a law would have the added benefit of also stopping the sickos who kill with knifes, or crowbars, or poison, or even bombs.

We all know that once something is illegal, criminals are immediately stopped in their tracks. Very soon after passing this law, murder would no longer exist.

Hell, it's so simple I think I'll run for president.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:50 AM   #37
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I've been putting a lot of thought into this and I think I have the perfect solution.

Why not just make murder illegal?

Such a law would have the added benefit of also stopping the sickos who kill with knifes, or crowbars, or poison, or even bombs.

We all know that once something is illegal, criminals are immediately stopped in their tracks. Very soon after passing this law, murder would no longer exist.

Hell, it's so simple I think I'll run for president.
Define "sickos."
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:18 PM   #38
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Define "sickos."
Really?

People "who kill with knifes, or crowbars, or poison, or even bombs." (As in, the rest of the sentence.)

I didn't really think I was trying to hide it.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:21 PM   #39
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The current admin literally took back a law that made it illegal for mentally ill people to buy guns. Also if no one can buy an AK-47, mentally ill or not, they can't do what they did as easily or devastating.
It wasn't a law, it was an executive decision. And that decision left too much leeway. Point a finger at someone and his right to "keep and bear arms" was removed. Just like that. Can you imagine someone trying to prove to brain-dead bureaucrats that he wasn't "mentally ill" -- especially since the definition of "mental illness" can be widened to mean just about anything now.

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I could fight about that point, but I don't have the energy or desire. They want us to talk about that and not talk about the actual issue -- deadly weapons available to anyone who wants them at any time and no restrictions.
Weapons are not available to everyone without restrictions. hence background checks and waiting periods.

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If the lawmakers know certain guns kill innocent people on a mass scale almost daily and there are easy solutions to stopping them by passing laws that work everywhere else in the world and you don't do it -- aren't you also mentally ill?
Except they don't work everywhere else in the world, or have you missed the news of terrorist attacks all over the world? Your so-called "easy solution" disarms citizens and removes their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, but does nothing to stop criminals who want to kill.

And guns don't make people "evil." When I was a kid in high school (in rural Montana) high school kids came to school in pickups with gun racks in their back windows -- guns on the racks and the windows open, while attending school. Guess how many shootings we had (and this is during the time when the legal drinking age was 18). If you guessed ZERO you would be right.

I, personally, don't own a gun. Haven't for years now, but I know a lot of gun owners and they're not the crazed SOBs you see denounced on TV. And I noticed the Dayton shooter was pro-Antifa (i.e., anti-Trump). But of course Antifa has nothing to do with rising violence in America. It's all the "right wing extremists," don't you know?
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:37 PM   #40
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I've been putting a lot of thought into this and I think I have the perfect solution.

Why not just make murder illegal?

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