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Old 12-30-2010, 08:28 AM   #21
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...The insights are great, and from what I'm hearing I just don't have enough juice yet to interest an L.A. script agent. If that's the case, I'll just keep writing my little scripts and books, getting them produced and published...
I'm with you. I'm on script #13 and not sweating the non-agent/manager status. When one or two sales come, there'll be a line-up at my door. Then, if I feel like it, I'll offer them 5% and let them ride my coat-tails.

As for your cast, I agree with you there, too. They're excellent! Their "agents" must have thought highly enough of it to have put the opportunity in front of them.

As for the story itself, it's certainly not the kind of script I write, but I'll give you my personal thumbs-up, thumbs-down reviewer's metric.

And how does it go?

"I'd watch that movie!"
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:40 AM   #22
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You're right of course, but I do see people use Bill's situation to prove that life without an agent is great. But I know Bill would love to have a top notch rep work for him. Just because you don't HAVE to have an agent doesn't mean you don't want one.
yep - i was just pointing out the difference between "need" and "want".

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Old 12-30-2010, 08:45 AM   #23
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I appreciate the replies, but I disagree on the cast. Danny Trejo was in Predators; Dominic Purcell was the star of Prison Break; Amy Smart was in Mirrors and Crank. They're not exactly nobodies. I'm shocked we got them for the budget.
you should definitely take this on the film festival circuit. any time you have known actors they want your movie. they're not a-list but they are recognizable and this is important to the success of film festivals. and hopefully you can find a distributor at one of them.
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:24 AM   #24
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When I landed in LA now what seems like a long time ago - sh*t it was! I snagged an agent two months after I got there. She was a small timer, sold a few scripts and was the book agent for Robert Kosberg, so I signed with her. Then nothing. But as they say "any agent is better than no agent." I left her when I got another at a mid-level agency. Then ... nothing. just kept writing. I moved back home - missed my girlfriend. Somehow I knew this was going to probably take a long time. The saying goes either it takes 10 minutes or 10 years. My 10 minutes were up. Then I wrote a big action spec that was getting some notice and got it to an agent and he flew me out to LA to sign with him and be there when they "auctioned" it. Remember those days? Then .... nothing. Got a bunch of meetings thou. In my "career" I have landed assignments and paid options, one was a low budget film that got made - the kind Jeff is talking about. No big agent cared. But almost every time I have been paid as a writer ... I got the job. My agent would do the paperwork for ME pressing money in his/her hand.

Don't sweat an agent. Somewhere in there is that point. lol
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:32 AM   #25
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The film already has a distributor, per his query letter a few posts back.

And Chuck, I'm certainly not making a judgement about the talent of your cast, just that they brand the movie as not a theatrical release.

I think you just need to pare down and focus your letter. Are you trying to find an agent to sell your novel's film rights? Are you trying to be a screenwriter? Do you have a new spec? The kitchen sink approach can hurt, IMO.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:08 AM   #26
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Jeff,

I have a new script under option to the same EP. What I'm trying to do now is sell the film rights to my upcoming novel (A KILLER LIKE ME/Aug. 2011). I would also like to write the script.

If I can't interest an agent in trying to sell the film rights, I'm going to write the script on spec and try again to get an agent. Perhaps with a script in hand and a book coming out, I can get one.

The reason I'm trying to get an agent now is time. I have two upcoming books to do a quick polish on (KILLER and the novel of HOUSE) plus a new new novel I just finished (AXMAN). At 100,000-plus words each, polishing a book isn't quite as easy as a script. They take three or four weeks each.

So I was hoping to get an agent to find a deal where I could get PAID to write the script for my novel KILLER.

That no longer looks likely, but it was my dream.

The good news is when I get through the books sometime this spring, I can concentrate on writing the script for KILLER.



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The film already has a distributor, per his query letter a few posts back.

And Chuck, I'm certainly not making a judgement about the talent of your cast, just that they brand the movie as not a theatrical release.

I think you just need to pare down and focus your letter. Are you trying to find an agent to sell your novel's film rights? Are you trying to be a screenwriter? Do you have a new spec? The kitchen sink approach can hurt, IMO.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:17 AM   #27
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bmartell has several produced scripts. i think 18 now and he doesn't have an agent either. if you can negotiate, sell and option without one then why give them 10%?

martell is da bomb but none of his flicks have had theatrical releases and most have been low budge...Someone like Lowell makes more money and bigger career strides with one movie than martell can do with five or probably all...the agent is the difference.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:27 AM   #28
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I think the main problem with your queries, at least in my opinion was touched on earlier.

Agents are very much a "what can we do together right now" group of people, and your not offering them that. In all reality, your not offering them anything to work with, your just asking them to work with you. You're tellign them what you've done so far and asking what they can do for you.

If you had another script geared up and ready to go I think you might get more responses from them. But since you don't I think the people you should be targeting are managers, not agents.

Agents and producers generally dont want to hear what you might have ready for them in 3 to 6 months, they want to know what you have ready for them to work with right now.

Again that is just my opinion...
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:35 AM   #29
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I appreciate the replies, but I disagree on the cast. Danny Trejo was in Predators; Dominic Purcell was the star of Prison Break; Amy Smart was in Mirrors and Crank. They're not exactly nobodies. I'm shocked we got them for the budget.

As far as focus. I'm certainly not going to stop writing novels. I just spent 15 months working on a historical crime novel that my agent is about to start shopping around New York. Not to mention, I have the novel "House of the Rising Sun" coming out, which is what I adapted the script from.

The insights are great, and from what I'm hearing I just don't have enough juice yet to interest an L.A. script agent. If that's the case, I'll just keep writing my little scripts and books, getting them produced and published.

Fortunately, the same EP wants to make several more movies with me, so I'll keep at it. Maybe he'll soon be able to step up the budgets to the $5 million range.

This sure is a tough business, but I got one script produced and I got paid decent money for it. Were I boxing, I'd figure I was ahead on points

Thanks to everyone for taking the time to reply.

Chuck
The question, IMO, from a representative's perspective is, are you consistently writing commercial specs? If so, then this is going to be more interesting than having a couple of small novels under your belt. It's good background information which tells people that you have some chops and are committed to the writing life, so I think it should help you get reads, but it's more about what you have available to sell now and in the next six months that could break you out.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:39 AM   #30
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true illusion,

I have the film rights I'm trying to get an agent to sell. My new book, A KILLER LIKE ME, will be out nationally in August as trade paper and ebook.

That is the point of my query. I'm looking for an agent to sell the film rights.

Maybe I'm not clear enough.
Maybe you are being too limited, particularly if you are trying to find someone to sell the rights to something that looks a bit too small and dark. People want big, commercial specs. Are you writing anything like that?
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