No doubt Depp could play a worthy villain, but we've seen Bats go up against three psychos already (The Scarecrow, Two Face and The Joker), do we really want to see another one?
the twisted psychos are what make nolans movies great. I'd rather see another psycho (riddler, harley quinn, etc) than a created villain (clayface, man bat, bane, posion ivy)
I would eliminate catwoman because the devastating halle berry movie will sour many audiences to the idea.
Because we're discussing this on TDK's official wide release night, I'll leave the whole Depp thing alone, but I will leave you with this: Heath Ledger became The Joker-The Joker-The Joker...his was the performance of a lifetime...hi lifetime. The Joker is immortal, and if you think Heath's performance was and will be the only time we can ever see this take on how the Joker exists...you're mistaken...this character is the ultimate villain in comic and film history in terms of actors wanting to step into the role...he's even more complex than Heath Ledger or anyone else could ever play him, and that's what makes him so damn fascinating.
Because when you talk about the highest level of actors like Heath and like Johnny Depp...what they've already 'done' and what they've 'played' is completely irrelevant to what they're doing now. You can't bring back the dead, but you can do the seemingly impossible with a character like The Joker. Just remember in 1989, everyone said Nicholson's Joker could never be duplicated....some joke on them, huh?
A villainess is a good idea, one that gets to Bruce Wayne though. It would be an interesting dynamic for Bruce to fall in love with a woman that Batman has to stop.
A good thing is savored best, when it's in the moment. Third film shouldn't be in our vocabulary at this point...THE DARK KNIGHT is far too amazing a film to see just once. Tap the keg dry...this is the first and last time you're gonna see Heath Ledger on a stage this grand.
Uh, didn't he have a thing for CatWoman and then they kissed and were both like "Oh, sh!t! Does this mean we have to fight?"
And she sizzled somebody and
Well the point is, all of those have been done.
Depp would make a super cool Batman villian.
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Because when you talk about the highest level of actors like Heath and like Johnny Depp...what they've already 'done' and what they've 'played' is completely irrelevant to what they're doing now. You can't bring back the dead, but you can do the seemingly impossible with a character like The Joker. Just remember in 1989, everyone said Nicholson's Joker could never be duplicated....some joke on them, huh?
I never cared for Jack's Joker. All I saw was JACK. (Way too much Jim in The Riddler, too. Not much different than his Mask character)
I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone else does it, though. I think they should go with something fresh, next. There's dozens to choose from:
Lady Shiva
Clayface
Hush
The Mad Hatter
General
The Scarecrow
Billy Numerous
Cavalier
Cornelius Stirk
Firefly
I'd go with Joseph Gordon-Levitt personally. Robin is a tough cast.
Nolan has stated numerous times that Robin just doesn't fit his vision of Batman(this causing an uproar amongst your over-the-top Robin "fanboys"). He sees Bale's Batman as still being very early in his career in Gotham, presenting Nolan with sort of this canvas of a singular hero's initial journey to, then, becoming the great legend that Batman is widely regarded as.
The reviews are out of this world. Either the film is damned good or Warner Bros has more employees than I thought. I'm not expecting to get a foot into any theatre this weekend. I'll try for next weekend.
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Lady Shiva
Clayface
Hush
The Mad Hatter
General
The Scarecrow
Billy Numerous
Cavalier
Cornelius Stirk
Firefly
I'd love to see a number of the Rogues Gallery done on film, but with Chris Nolan, looking at his approach to the realistic appearance of his villains in both films; there's restrictions on a number of really interesting origin stories out there that haven't been used on film.
So far, we've seen:
Scarecrow Mr. Zzazz
Ra's Al Ghul Joker
Two-Face
Now, a list of other possibe rogues that neatly fit into the Nolanverse as it stands:
PENGUIN Riddler The Mad-Hatter Bane Black Mask Killer Croc (See brand new BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHT DVD for reference on realistic look at Croc) HUSH Catwoman LADY SHIVA
Outside of these names, I can't see Chris using any others from the gallery.
That leaves some of the most fascinating villains at home:
CLAYFACE***
POISON IVY*
SPELLBINDER
VENTRILOQUIST/SCARFACE
DEADSHOT*
RED HOOD
ANARKY
GREAT WHITE
MAN-BAT***
CALENDAR MAN
FIREFLY*
MR. FREEZE***
* Being villains I think translate well to film
*** Being by far the most captivating origin stories
Something tells me Phillip Seymour Hoffman will play The Penguin and Anthony Michael Hall, The Riddler, in the next film.
i think nolan will stay away from any "created" villains (mutants, genetically altered, etc) and stick to "realistic" villains (psychos with elaborate personas)
I'd love to see the Croc. I thought Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso did an excellent job in Broken City. I loved the whole "skin disorder" thing he had going on. And the reason he had jagged teeth was because Batman kept smashing his new dentures in.
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