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Old 11-27-2007, 04:42 PM   #11
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are there any conventions that define the subgenre "coming of age"?

I mean, I can see obviously that they usually have "getting laid" as the hero's main external goal (i.e. Superbad) but is there any other conventions that, like with RomCom's boy meets girl, boy gets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl again..yadd yadda.

That sort of thing?

sorry if this makes no sense.
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Why would you be writing in a genre that you evidently don't care enough about to even know the most basic of conventions?
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:24 PM   #12
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Why would you be writing in a genre that you evidently don't care enough about to even know the most basic of conventions?
Wow, what a pompous response.

I ask the question because I do care.
I'm starting to research the genre RIGHT NOW.

Does that disqualify me in some bizarro way?

Geez, man. I'm asking for a heads up on a WRITER'S BOARD from people who may have experience with a genre that I'm beginning to explore for an idea I have not yet written.

If this place isn't where I should be looking, than boy am I confused.

To everyone else...thanks a lot. Very good stuff for me to...(listen up M.O.H....) re-search.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:45 PM   #13
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You have two subgenres, or demographics for a coming of age story:

1) Tweens (younger than 12)

2) Teens

These two are very different because they represent vary different phases of development. However, the story arcs can often overlap. Other posters have given pretty good examples, so no need to go over them.

I'll spare the gory details and just say tweens want to be teens. They're becoming interested in the opposite sex for the first time and want independence... But they are still kids at heart. They aren't at the rebellious phase yet.

Teens want to be adults. They want a lot of independence and are really questioning the world around them. They are experiencing a lot of rites of passage like driving, sexual intercourse, first jobs (responsibility), etc.

Teen coming of age stories present more lee-way because they are closer to adults and adult subject matter... Which can make them less coming of age as a result depending on the story itself.
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Old 11-27-2007, 08:25 PM   #14
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WB.

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Check your PM please.

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Old 11-28-2007, 05:02 PM   #15
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The 'coming of age' genre has always been characterized by one distinct theme: loss of innocence. It can be the change that takes place when one becomes pubescent or the change that takes place when puberty descends into adulthood and the accompanying chaos.
The genre often gets bogged down in loss of sexual innocence, but can be clever in other areas such as loss of moral/ethical innocence or
loss of political innocence and so on. I guess that opens the genre to quite a wide range of stories and styles and co-genres, with or without cheese.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:07 PM   #16
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The 'coming of age' genre has always been characterized by one distinct theme: loss of innocence. It can be the change that takes place when one becomes pubescent or the change that takes place when puberty descends into adulthood and the accompanying chaos.
The genre often gets bogged down in loss of sexual innocence, but can be clever in other areas such as loss of moral/ethical innocence or
loss of political innocence and so on. I guess that opens the genre to quite a wide range of stories and styles and co-genres, with or without cheese.
I like that broader thought of..loss of innocence.

that helps

thanks
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:03 PM   #17
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Santino:

Check your PM, please.

There are some final thoughts that should help you out with this story and simplify the writing process
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:35 PM   #18
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Check your PM, please.

There are some final thoughts that should help you out with this story and simplify the writing process
got it, WB. Thanks again.
Your thoughts are always very helpful.

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